Breaking News Archive - 20th - 26th Aug

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  • #81
englishleigh said:
I wouldn't want to sit within 10 feet of the guy, period.

ESPECIALLY if he killed JonBenet. :razz:
Would not worry me at all. They have to get him home sometime.LE is not goung to charter private planes for him. Public are not going to get any where near him any time soon.He will be cocooned like a bug in
case someone tries to knock him off his perch. I do not think he is the type that is going to grab a knife and kill a cop sitting next to him. They probably chatted and befriended him in a professional manner. keep him sweet.
 
  • #82
scandi said:
Wow! If you take this as a double analysis that would mean 3 experts have said it's a match!~ Did you find anything on the expert the NY newspaper hired Buzz.

It does definately hold a lot of weight, wouldn't you think. And would you bet the DA had already had this analysis done and she knew it was a match before they presented the application for warrant to the judge?

Scandi

Scandi, that is what I keep thinking. Surely this isn't a pig in a poke, with the history this case has had in the past. It would be more of the same, and not sure the BDA wants to be in that park! I keep thinking, they had to have checked the DNA, handwriting, and his presence in CO. Or one or two of the three!

but who knows?
 
  • #83
Buzz lets leave the golf scores to the Up to the Minute Forum Please and stay on topic.
 
  • #84
tybee204 said:
On the link above can some one tell me what "after the jump" means? I am blognerant and dont have a clue
It's a holdover from newspaper lingo. The 'jump' in a newspaper article is the point where the article is interrupted on one page and continued at that point on another page, with a notation of where to go to continue the article. They serve the same purpose: to conserve "front page" space (or inside page space, though that's less common) for as much of as many articles as possible.

It follows the general rule of traditional newspaper organization: most people won't flip a folded paper over to see the bottom of the sheet, most of those that do won't read past the headlines, most of those that do won't read past the lede, most of those that do won't go past the front page. Therefore, put as many stories as possible of the most importance on the front page, so the most number of people will get the maximal amount of news possible.

IIRC, Elizabeth Spiers used it fairly early in Gawker's history--on commercial (ad-supported) weblogs, writers are encouraged by management to use the "jump" because click-through = another ad page served. So writers on pro weblogs looked early for terms to use for this that would make sense to readers--and since Gawker addressed an audience with a significant number of newspaper employees, it was intelligible terminology to them.

Here's a decent round-up of newspaper jargon, some of which has made its way online, albeit with different meanings (sidebar, banner, etc.).
 
  • #85
panthera said:
Maybe her version of "dirt poor" was only to mean that he couldn't have possibly have been away at Christmas. Seems like it's taking her a little while to find those photos.


I thought he drove the Delorean (sp) before 1996. In 1996 they had 3 babies and no money. I drove a 65 Mustang in High School , by the time I was supporting 3 babies I was driving a 10 year old plymouth.
 
  • #86
tybee204 said:
I thought he drove the Delorean (sp) before 1996. In 1996 they had 3 babies and no money. I drove a 65 Mustang in High School , by the time I was supporting 3 babies I was driving a 10 year old plymouth.
I'd heard on FNC the car and being poor mentioned in the same time frame and those discussing the case were questioning where his money came from also. I stand corrected if indeed the information was wrong.
 
  • #87
Experts praise royal treatment of Karr

DENVER - Authorities probably had a very good reason for allowing JonBenet Ramsey murder suspect John Mark Karr to live it up on the 15-hour flight to the United States, legal experts say — they wanted him to talk.

Denver attorney Larry Pozner, past president of the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers, said the royal treatment during Sunday's journey — king prawns, champagne, French wine — was "a brilliant move."

"What the cops want most is this guy to talk. They say he is not under arrest. Then they do not put him in handcuffs on the plane. And they say he is over the age of 21, free to drink," Pozner said. "He is therefore free to talk."

If Karr says something incriminating that is challenged in court, Pozner said, the investigator who was sitting next to him simply says he was never in my custody.

"There is always a reason when the unusual happens," Pozner said. "He is in nobody's custody. He is free to leave if he can find a way at 38,000 feet

Karr left Bangkok on a Thai Airways International flight at about 9 a.m. EDT for the long flight to Los Angeles. The 41-year-old teacher sat in a business class window seat next to Mark Spray, an investigator with the Boulder County District Attorney's office.

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  • #88
tybee204 said:
I thought he drove the Delorean (sp) before 1996. In 1996 they had 3 babies and no money. I drove a 65 Mustang in High School , by the time I was supporting 3 babies I was driving a 10 year old plymouth.

Possible the red DeLorean was before "96...still seems like a REALLY flashy car
for someone on a teacher's earnings, at any time in life.

DeLorean's automobiles were from the 1980's, I believe...actually I had never heard of a red one until now, I thought they were all stainless steel.

Edited to add...

OK, here's an article that clarifies some of this

http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/08/17/ramsey.suspect.ap/index.html

Snippet:

Contrary to his resume's description of a life in the classroom, Karr's sole Alabama experience was being hired as a substitute teacher in 1996. But his time there ended after school officials received complaints about Karr saying things "that didn't need to be said in an elementary class," Jackson said. Karr was "bragging on the students, their dress," said Jackson, declining to elaborate further.

After his brief work in the classroom, Karr sold used cars and was known in the Alabama town for his own flashy car -- a red DeLorean with gull-wing doors.

Marion County Probate Judge Annette Bozeman said Karr was in her office frequently, working on car titles, sometimes accompanied by Lara. "He was a very polite fellow, but he was a little unusual," she said.
 
  • #89
Buzzm1 said:
Experts praise royal treatment of Karr

DENVER - Authorities probably had a very good reason for allowing JonBenet Ramsey murder suspect John Mark Karr to live it up on the 15-hour flight to the United States, legal experts say — they wanted him to talk.

Denver attorney Larry Pozner, past president of the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers, said the royal treatment during Sunday's journey — king prawns, champagne, French wine — was "a brilliant move."

"What the cops want most is this guy to talk. They say he is not under arrest. Then they do not put him in handcuffs on the plane. And they say he is over the age of 21, free to drink," Pozner said. "He is therefore free to talk."

If Karr says something incriminating that is challenged in court, Pozner said, the investigator who was sitting next to him simply says he was never in my custody.

"There is always a reason when the unusual happens," Pozner said. "He is in nobody's custody. He is free to leave if he can find a way at 38,000 feet

Karr left Bangkok on a Thai Airways International flight at about 9 a.m. EDT for the long flight to Los Angeles. The 41-year-old teacher sat in a business class window seat next to Mark Spray, an investigator with the Boulder County District Attorney's office.

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Interesting - makes sense -- brilliant move is always good, even if it just gets him to drink enough to confess to dreaming up the whole confession...
 
  • #90
Buzzm1 said:
"There is always a reason when the unusual happens," Pozner said. "He is in nobody's custody. He is free to leave if he can find a way at 38,000 feet

Karr left Bangkok on a Thai Airways International flight at about 9 a.m. EDT for the long flight to Los Angeles.

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Really appreciate the "links" Buzz! Can't quite see JMK as a birdie or eagle flying on his own outside the airplane!
TW!!!:D
 
  • #91
Latest news on CNN -
Thai Airways flight scheduled to arrive in Los Angeles at 12:30am ET. He will be arrested and charged when he arrives at the airport in Los Angeles.
:behindbar
 
  • #92
DNA that came from a Caucasian white male was found beneath the girl's fingernails and on her clothing. Authorities have never said whether the DNA matched anyone on an FBI database.

A DNA mouth swab was taken from Karr in Bangkok. The results are unknown. He will be given another test when he is handed over to prosecutors.

"DNA is the big ticket, the 600-pound gorilla in this case," former Denver prosecutor Craig Silverman told the Rocky Mountain News.

"If his DNA doesn't match, that's a huge problem for the prosecution. If it's a match, then it's game, set and match for the state."


http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2006/08/19/1155408075083.html
 
  • #93
Someone mentioned early on in this case revival that Karr drove the DeLorean because he worked as a used car salesman for awhile. THAT makes sense, if it's true.:cool:
 
  • #94
panthera said:
Latest news on CNN -
Thai Airways flight scheduled to arrive in Los Angeles at 12:30am ET. He will be arrested and charged when he arrives at the airport in Los Angeles.
:behindbar
JBean, promised that she, and her entourage, are going to meet the flight, and give us an on-the-spot, up-to-the-minute report, right from LAX.
 
  • #95
Buzzm1 said:
JBean, promised that she, and her entourage, are going to meet the flight, and give us an on-the-spot, up-to-the-minute report, right from LAX.
Awesome! A credentialed reporter amongst us!
:cool:
 
  • #96
gaia said:
Someone mentioned early on in this case revival that Karr drove the DeLorean because he worked as a used car salesman for awhile. THAT makes sense, if it's true.:cool:
Well, that'd make sense. Wonder if he ever took any out of town trips with those used cars, like to Boulder?
 
  • #97
Buzzm1 said:
JBean, promised that she, and her entourage, are going to meet the flight, and give us an on-the-spot, up-to-the-minute report, right from LAX.
Wonder if Geragos is planning to meet the plane, too? ;)
 
  • #98
The used car salesman aspect is a good thought.Another thought is unexplained absences. Frequently these perps disappear for a time frame and hitchhiking is one avenue. Familes that are dysfunctional explain it away in a myriad of ways.

Middle of the night...attending AA meetings. Several days..seeing a doctor many miles away. No return phone calls.....a private person etc. No one wants to believe that someone they know is capable of such a thing. Or, they realize that there is a screw loose and hid it for fear that they will be associated with the same malady.

In any case, DNA will do it for me.
 
  • #99
panthera said:
Latest news on CNN -
Thai Airways flight scheduled to arrive in Los Angeles at 12:30am ET. He will be arrested and charged when he arrives at the airport in Los Angeles.
:behindbar
what? i thought it was coming in at 8? That messes up all my plans.
 
  • #100
What I read is that he drove the DeLorean while he was in high school - BEFORE he even got married.
 
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