Breaking News Archive - 20th - 26th Aug

[curiositycat]

His father, Wexford Karr, married Patricia Elaine Adcock on Aug. 21, 1958. He was 37 and she was 18, according to court documents.

Their union produced two sons, Michael and John, who was born Dec. 12, 1964.

The couple separated 11 years after they married, and Wexford Karr filed for divorce in 1973 in Clayton County, saying the marriage was "irretrievably broken" and that the boys were in his custody. His wife received a $5,000 mobile home and $125 a month in alimony, according to court papers.

Soon after, Wexford Karr, then 52, married a woman 23 years his junior, Susan Simpson. But his union with the 29-year-old burned out in divorce six months later.

John Mark Karr moved to Alabama to live with grandparents when he was about 12. He grew up in Hamilton, a town of 7,000, graduating from the local high school.

Great sleuthing!! Thanks a bunch!

 

[panthera]

Right, they were young. Someone posted their ages as 5, 4 and 3 at the time. Too young to remember, IMO.

And he's been gone out of their lives for five years now...

 

[Wudge]

His father, Wexford Karr, married Patricia Elaine Adcock on Aug. 21, 1958. He was 37 and she was 18, according to court documents.

Their union produced two sons, Michael and John, who was born Dec. 12, 1964.

The couple separated 11 years after they married, and Wexford Karr filed for divorce in 1973 in Clayton County, saying the marriage was "irretrievably broken" and that the boys were in his custody. His wife received a $5,000 mobile home and $125 a month in alimony, according to court papers.

Soon after, Wexford Karr, then 52, married a woman 23 years his junior, Susan Simpson. But his union with the 29-year-old burned out in divorce six months later.

John Mark Karr moved to Alabama to live with grandparents when he was about 12. He grew up in Hamilton, a town of 7,000, graduating from the local high school.

Your noting that his last teaching paycheck was December 19, 1996 and his former wife stating he is nowhere to be seen in the 1996 family Xmas photos are the most recent significant revelations that could support or provide meaningful background to the case.

 

[panthera]

John Mark Karr moved to Alabama to live with grandparents when he was about 12. He grew up in Hamilton, a town of 7,000, graduating from the local high school.

Someone on Larry King's show just said that JMK's mother died when he was 12 years old.

Seems like finding much younger "women" runs in the family.

 

[panthera]

good point there....i thought someone posted, he was fired in November, though???

I posted that from what I'd heard on the cable news over the weekend. He'd started teaching school that fall, but was dismissed from the school and had received his final paycheck in Nov. 1996. That would be a separate job from the substitute teaching of two days prior to Christmas break.

 

[Moggie]

Here are some time line's I have, they where posted in an earlier thread, sorry I dont know who to thank

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060817/ap_on_re_us/jonbenet_ramsey_karr_timeline_1

 

[Buzz Mills]

Karr's confession dramatic, whether true or not
Karr's story, if false, wouldn't be the first among high-profile cases
NBC VIDEO


• True or not, Karr confession dramatic
Aug. 21: If John Mark Karr's confession is proven false, it wouldn't be the first made-up story in a high-profile case. NBC's Mike Taibbi reports.
Nightly News


BOULDER, Colo. -

While John Mark Karr may be a disturbed, sex-obsessed 41-year-old man with an unnatural interest in the murder of a child beauty queen, many experts say with each passing day his confession sounds less believable.

"He's a confessor who just wants attention," says Dr. James Foxx, a criminologist at Northeastern University.

Karr was in jail in Los Angeles Monday, returned to the United States from Thailand after confessing that he accidentally killed JonBenet Ramsey.

Karr wouldn't be the first false confessor — hundreds claimed to have kidnapped the Lindbergh baby, and among modern examples there's Henry Lee Lucas, who made phony confessions about some 600 murders. And the teenager who admitted his role in New York's famous Central Park jogger assault, only to be proven innocent by DNA testing years later.

In Karr, some see a confessor merely out for the attention he's attracted.

"He wants to be part of it, part of the excitement, part of the drama," Foxx says.

Any formal charges against Karr would be lodged in Colorado. Where Karr is ultimately housed at the Boulder County Jail will depend on several factors, key among them, his mental health evaluation. If he's at risk from other inmates or a risk to himself, he would be held in the maximum-security suicide precaution lockup, complete with special clothing.

"This blanketed smock, which is a garment that doesn't allow them to tie it in knots, or anything like that and use it to possibly hurt themselves," says Boulder County Jail Cmdr. Dwight Hill.

Whether Karr is a murderer or is just claiming to be one, the man is about to have his dramatic story revealed as truth or as the cruelest imaginable fraud.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14456927/

 

[panthera]

i also heard it was "possession of child "...

I posted this earlier, from a picture of a court document on CNN: It was five counts of violating Calif. Penal Code Section 311.11, which after I looked it up is "possession". I also listed the punishment as up to one year in jail for each count.

 

[scandi]

Hi everyone, i just heard on Fox that Karr was charged with producing ! I thought it was possession not production.Anyone know?

Now that makes perfect sense. I'm sitting here wondering how this guy that I haven't heard held a job at anytime for more than 2 weeks, could support his family. Wonder if he's always dabbled in this, even in Europe. It is big there.

Scandi

 

[englishleigh]

Now that makes perfect sense. I'm sitting here wondering how this guy that I haven't heard held a job at anytime for more than 2 weeks, could support his family. Wonder if he's always dabbled in this, even in Europe. It is big there.

Scandi

If PRODUCING ...oh, my...JBR was a producer's dream child...

 

[Buzz Mills]

Someone on Larry King's show just said that JMK's mother died when he was 12 years old.

Seems like finding much younger "women" runs in the family.

I wonder if JMK's mother remarried after the divorce. I tried to find her vital stats without success.

JMK's folks separated in 1969 when he was about 5, and according to the divorce filing, his father had custody.

JMK went to live with his grandparents in 1976 when he was 12.

 

[Buzz Mills]

I posted this earlier, from a picture of a court document on CNN: It was five counts of violating Calif. Penal Code Section 311.11, which after I looked it up is "possession". I also listed the punishment as up to one year in jail for each count.

Looks like it will be awhile before he ever sees the outside again, even if CO can't charge him.

 

[panthera]

Looks like it will be awhile before he ever sees the outside again, even if CO can't charge him.

A judge in California could sentence him to consecutive terms and that would add up to almost five years!

 

[Buzz Mills]

Bravell Jackson, superintendant of Marion County Schools in Alabama, said he knew Karr as a young boy and taught him physical education at Hamilton Elementary School.

He said Karr was later a substitute teacher at the elementary school. "He wasn't here very long, for about 15 days in August and September of 1996, and I had to remove him from the sub list," Jackson said. "There were some complaints from parents.

"He was bragging on the girls a bit too much," Jackson said. "It was inappropriate in my eyes and we let him go."

Jackson said he consulted with local law enforcement about how to handle Karr's dismissal, but it was concluded there was no evidence of criminal wrongdoing.

"All we had is rumors but there's nothing we could do," Jackson said. Karr steadfastly maintained his innocence and threatened the school system with legal action but never followed through.

"He appeared to be upset that I would think he might harm a child," Jackson said.

 

[tybee204]

Producing would have resulted in Felony Charges. His lawyer and investigators have already stated he had 5 pictures on his computer that resulted in misdemeaner charges

 

[kazzbar]

Producing would have resulted in Felony Charges. His lawyer and investigators have already stated he had 5 pictures on his computer that resulted in misdemeaner charges

Thanks tybee, I thought that Fox were probably 'wrong' What does bragging on a child mean?
Is it giving them a hard time, telling off, picking on .We do not use bragging as a term here. not in that kind of contex anyway.

 

[tybee204]

When we brag on a child it means we are talking them up. Like if your child gets straight A's and everyone and their mother hears about it.

 

[Buzz Mills]

I wonder if JMK's mother remarried after the divorce. I tried to find her vital stats without success.

JMK's folks separated in 1969 when he was about 5, and according to the divorce filing, his father had custody.

JMK went to live with his grandparents in 1976 when he was 12.

We need to find more info on JMK's mother.

His parents Wexford, and Patricis, separated in 1969, and were divorced in Clayton County, Georgia in 1973.

His mother's full name is Patricia Elaine (Maiden name Adcock) Karr,

No idea as to where she went after the divorce.

 

[kazzbar]

When we brag on a child it means we are talking them up. Like if your child gets straight A's and everyone and their mother hears about it.

Thankyou tybee. yes, that makes sense now. It means the samehere except we use it to mean you are talking about yourself.Big noting yourself. Ah, that makes more sense regarding Mr Karr. Could it be he was being a little"fresh'?
Or am i going a bit too far? I can see why anyone hearing him talking the girls up would raise an eyebrow. There is afine line between hepling a kids cofidence and going to far.Is'nt there?

 

[Buzz Mills]

Perhaps when JMK's DNA gets entered into CODIS, something will eventually shake out.

As of June 2006 the profile composition of the National DNA Index System (NDIS) is as follows:

Total number of profiles: 3,452,901
Total Forensic profiles: 142,478
Total Convicted Offender profiles: 3,310,423

http://www.fbi.gov/hq/lab/codis/clickmap.htm

Through May 2006
36,194 Investigations Aided in 49 States and 2 Federal Laboratories.

http://www.fbi.gov/hq/lab/codis/aidedmap.htm