Breaking News Archive - 20th - 26th Aug

[panthera]

I'm still holding out for GA (chuckle) representing JMK, as agent, on the book and movie deals. She's a woman, he's half woman.

:clap: :clap: :clap: Very good!!!

 

[Wudge]

Patiience Van Zandt was with the Sonoma County Public Defender's office in 2001, and she did represent JMK, in 2001, on the child charges. Harmon & Associates, San Jose, CA, where Patience Van Zandt currently works, are "Advisors" to JMK and were going to accompany him to CO. Janie/Jamie Harmon, may in fact, end up representing JMK in CA. I'm still holding out for GA (chuckle) representing JMK, as agent, on the book and movie deals. She's a woman, he's half woman.

Both of his attorneys talk too much. I could not believe they had a press conference wherein Harmon told the media how sane her client appeared to be. ...lol

Colorado will not accept her to represent Karr; it would be looked upon as a set-up.

 

[aspidistra]

This is a new story at Rocky Mountain News. John Karr said in an email to Tracey that he saw the check stub on Ramsey's desk which included the figure of $118,000. This was reported a while ago but the news story is about whether or not the check stub was known to be on the desk, in any previous news stories or internet chat.

Perhaps officials believe this is something that had never been made public. Personally I think it is not good enough to prove he was in the house. It's interesting because: a check stub could have been there. It was awarded in Jan 1996, but would appear on every pay stub issued in 1996, so would have been on a Dec. pay stub.

www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_4937848,00.html

 

[narlacat]

According to JR that's how the perp knew the bonus amount, because he left his check stubs lying around the house for anyone to see.

 

[Buzz Mills]

Both of his attorneys talk too much. I could not believe they had a press conference wherein Harmon told the media how sane her client appeared to be. ...lol

Colorado will not accept her to represent Karr; it would be looked upon as a set-up.

I think, because of Patience Van Zandt's prior association with JMK, the Harmon & Associates law firm was just attemtping to capitalize on the high media exposure of this case. It's doubtful that they can practice in CO, and I expect, if the CO case comes to fruition, I expect there will be a far bigger name representing JMK.

 

[wenchie]

According to JR that's how the perp knew the bonus amount, because he left his check stubs lying around the house for anyone to see.

I never read that - not even in DOI. When did John say that?

What executive gets paid by check instead of direct deposit?

Sounds weird to me.

 

[MrsMush99]

I never read that - not even in DOI. When did John say that?

What executive gets paid by check instead of direct deposit?

Sounds weird to me.

Even if you get paid direct deposit you still get a check, just can't cash it. It shows you how much was direct deposited into your account.

 

[JBean]

I never read that - not even in DOI. When did John say that?

What executive gets paid by check instead of direct deposit?

Sounds weird to me.

You still get a stub with a direct deposit doncha know.
Typically one gets a payroll stub with non-negotiable check attached. Bonuses and payroll.

 

[Wudge]

This is a new story at Rocky Mountain News. John Karr said in an email to Tracey that he saw the check stub on Ramsey's desk which included the figure of $118,000. This was reported a while ago but the news story is about whether or not the check stub was known to be on the desk, in any previous news stories or internet chat.

Perhaps officials believe this is something that had never been made public. Personally I think it is not good enough to prove he was in the house. It's interesting because: a check stub could have been there. It was awarded in Jan 1996, but would appear on every pay stub issued in 1996, so would have been on a Dec. pay stub.

www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_4937848,00.html

If the check stub was, in fact, on the a desk top, it would be new news to me. People have thought that an intruder might have seen a pay stub showing that net amount, but I have never heard it was even available to be seen. So if it turns out to be true, that could have been contained in the D.A.'s affidavit.

 

[Buzz Mills]

According to JR that's how the perp knew the bonus amount, because he left his check stubs lying around the house for anyone to see.

That amount, was apparently roughly John Ramsey's deferred compensation amount for the year, and as such, it was listed on every check stub he received that year.

 

[pinto]

I never read that - not even in DOI. When did John say that?

What executive gets paid by check instead of direct deposit?

Sounds weird to me.

My husband has direct deposit, but he still gets a stub, attached to a check that has "nonnegotiable" written on it. It's for recordkeeping. The stub has all the year's info on it, just like a paycheck. I think that's what they mean.

 

[JBean]

That amount, was apparently roughly John Ramsey's deferred compensation amount for the year, and as such, it was listed on every check he received that year.

Very true Buzz.
I think the intruder spent quite a bit of time in the house.
Maybe the ransom note idea was born after looking through some of JR's records.
The ransom note did serve a very valuable purpose for the intruder. It delayed the finding of JB's body for several hours. More time to get away from the area.
I do not think the intruder was ever going to kidnap her at all.

 

[panthera]

Nancy Grace just announced that she will cover the press conference by Karr's lawyer/advisors at 8:30pm ET/5:30pm PT (on CNN/HLN).

 

[Mimi]

We've learned some interesting things today and I hope for more tidbits to come our way tomorrow. I see we have several new posters on site which is always a very good thing.

Wish I had a little nightcap so I could cool my bleary eyes after all the reading I've done.

Hey Bean - we West Coasters still have an hour to go! Think I'll curl up in bed and watch LKL. I still can't believe after 3 years the Rams had not been told by LE if JonBenet had been sexually abused.

I keep vasilating back and forth, he's just delusional, to then, he killed her :banghead: But I know that if John has been paying attention to the news he has noticed some things that talk loudly. For one thing he knows what Patsy did with JonBenet when she tucked her in - read her a story?

Scandi

I agree with you whole heartedly Scandi! I flip-flop! One minute, he is just mentally unsound or disturbed and the next, he is a calculated killer, sigh!

As for reading JB a story before bed, well I honestly don't know what parent doesn't do that with their six year old, truly! I have two kids and read to them incessantly, especially at that age so would venture to guess that it is a good bet to say that?! Maybe I'm wrong, sigh!

I just wish the DNA would come back and verify everything swiftly.

 

[lighthouselover]

Press release from Sonoma County re: Karr's 2001 confession to Wendy. They DID investigate him then for the murder of a 12 year old girl (?), nothing tying him to it though, and although they found his online writings and ramblings, found no evidence that he had confessed and nothing to tie him to JonBenet's murder, said he never wrote about anything that wasn't already known.

Maybe this will be in print in a little while.

 

[Buzz Mills]

What Wudge said about the macro-analysis, and micro-analysis, of the handwriting makes very good sense. Any of us might be able to practice, and emulate, the style of a particular handwriting, to pass it off as such through a macro-analysis, but the real proof of handwriting would come from a handwriting micro-analysis, that tests for many other things, such as the lifts of the pen, or pencil, in forming the letters, and must look at many things, like quiver, or whatever they might call it, that distinguishes one simulation from another. As yet, as far as we know, there hasn't been a micro-analysis of the ransom note versus Karr's handwriting.

 

[lighthouselover]

What Wudge said about the macro-analysis, and micro-analysis, of the handwriting makes very good sense. Any of us might be able to practice, and emulate, the style of a particular handwriting, to pass it off as such through a macro-analysis, but the real proof of handwriting would come from a handwriting micro-analysis, that tests for many other things, such as the lifts of the pen, or pencil, in forming the letters, and must look at many things, like quiver, or whatever they might call it, that distinguishes one simulation from another. As yet, as far as we know, there hasn't been a micro-analaysis of the ransom note versus Karr's handwriting.

It seems to me that they would need the originals. Has Boulder subpeoned the yearbook yet?

 

[JDB]

Very true Buzz.
I think the intruder spent quite a bit of time in the house.
Maybe the ransom note idea was born after looking through some of JR's records.
The ransom note did serve a very valuable purpose for the intruder. It delayed the finding of JB's body for several hours. More time to get away from the area.
I do not think the intruder was ever going to kidnap her at all.

Jbean why do you say Intruder???I really and have always thought one of the family other then Burke did this.

 

[panthera]

It seems to me that they would need the originals. Has Boulder subpeoned the yearbook yet?

Nancy Grace had the student, Teresa, and her yearbook on her show on Monday night, and they were both reading and looking through it.

 

[lighthouselover]

Nancy Grace had the student, Teresa, and her yearbook on her show on Monday night, and they were both reading and looking through it.

Whoops, I mean the "experts" would need he originals. Sorry for the confusion.:doh: