BREAKING NEWS!!! Decision on Monday

[Lola]

It seems the McCanns will ask for the files to be turned over to their investigators. The Portuguese police bungled this - they looked first for the foreigner (Murat) and then at the other estrangeiros. This investigation was pathetic from the outset and the British tabloid press was willing to go for it hook, line and sinker. The hoax was on those who believed these ridiculous stories.

 

[Rino]

Hmmm I'd like to see some hard,irrefutable LE released PROOF before I pass judgement.Until then I will continue to believe innocent until PROVEN guilty beyond reasonable doubt and not because some dont like Kates hair or Gerrys facial expressions

Keeping it real, huh.

 

[Tony Bennett]

Lola: "The hoax was on those who believed these ridiculous stories."

REPLY: LOL! So why did Kate McCann desperately tell us she'd been in close proximity with 6 dead bodies in the last two weeks before their holidays - and had routinely taken 'Cuddle Cat' to work? As if. And then they rushed out another story that cadaver dog evidence had been ruled inadmissable in an Irish case - and was useless.

Boy, were they rattled when Eddie and Keela sniffed that death scent.

On Kate's clothes.

On Cuddle Cat.

On the floor of the children's bedroom.

And in the Renault Scenic.

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[Barnaby]

Lola: "The hoax was on those who believed these ridiculous stories."

REPLY: LOL! So why did Kate McCann desperately tell us she'd been in close proximity with 6 dead bodies in the last two weeks before their holidays - and had routinely taken 'Cuddle Cat' to work? As if. And then they rushed out another story that cadaver dog evidence had been ruled inadmissable in an Irish case - and was useless.

Boy, were they rattled when Eddie and Keela sniffed that death scent.

On Kate's clothes.

On Cuddle Cat.

On the floor of the children's bedroom.

And in the Renault Scenic.

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& don't forget Tony that Cuddle cat is reported to have been purchased at the airport for Madeleine's 4th birthday which was after her disappearance & therefore could never have been to work with Kate. If this lie was not so serious it would be amusing.

Why the heck will people not come forward & dispute these lies, if I worked at the airport shop where that was purchased I would jolly well stand up & say where & when it was bought & expose these pathological liars for what they are!

 

[daffodil]

Keeping it real, huh.

Whats that supposed to mean

 

[Barnaby]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldne ... ublic.html

"British police officers have been accused of trying to stop DNA information allegedly linked to Kate and Gerry McCann's hire car from being made public..................

Under the headline 'English in Portimao to Protect Secrecy' the paper claimed two Leicestershire officers tried to stop certain information - including results of a DNA test on a sample from the McCanns' Renault hire car - from being made public.........."


Why is my only question?

 

[Texana]

The story's no longer at the link.

Why is that?

I'm going to turn into a conspiracy theorist yet!

 

[shoregirl]

I doubt that anyone was suspicious of the Mccanns in the first days. When I peel back all the layers I am left with the fact that the Mccann's behaviour was what led me to believe they were involved (in fact I found message boards googling Madeleine's name as the US didn't carry much on it) their words, their actions convinced me they knew more than they were letting on. In the beginning I was afraid to say it to anyone. I am also one of those that believes they are guilty no matter what happened to her, they left her alone. I think they didn't look for her because you don't look for something when you know where it is. They have done nothing that makes me believe any differently, they just spin a more and more tangled web.

 

[Barnaby]

The story's no longer at the link.

Why is that?

I'm going to turn into a conspiracy theorist yet!

Surprise! Surprise!

Lucky I saved it:


British police officers have been accused of trying to stop DNA information allegedly linked to Kate and Gerry McCann's hire car from being made public.

The claim was made in a Portuguese newspaper after Midlands detectives travelled to Portugal to meet the public prosecutor in the Madeleine McCann case which is now thought to be drawing to a close.

Leicestershire Police would only confirm officers held discussions about how some evidence would be disclosed at the end of the investigation into the young girl's disappearance.



Cleared: After 10 months under a cloud of suspicion, Kate and Gerry McCann are to have their formal status as suspects lifted on Monday

But they refused to comment on details of the report in the Portuguese newspaper 'Correio da Manha.'

Under the headline 'English in Portimao to Protect Secrecy' the paper claimed two Leicestershire officers tried to stop certain information - including results of a DNA test on a sample from the McCanns' Renault hire car - from being made public.

Last year the McCanns were the subject of allegations in the Portuguese press linking DNA allegedly found in the boot of their Renault Scenic hire car - hired by them almost a month after Madeleine's disappearance.

The McCanns have always insisted that if such traces were found, they were always wholly innocent explanations for it.

Some of the forensic testing was done at the Forensic Science Service laboratory in Birmingham for Leicestershire police.


Mystery: Police are set to admit that, 14 months on, they still have no idea what happened to Madeleine on the night she vanished last May

The last Portuguese newspaper report came as speculation mounted that Madeleine's parents, Kate and Gerry McCann, will be officially cleared of having anything to do with their daughter's disappearance.

Leicestershire police refused to discuss the exact details of a meeting between public prosecutor Jose Cunha de Magalhaes e Meneses and the officers in the Algarve town of Portimao.

However, it was reported that the prosecutor had refused their request as discussions continued over how evidence would be disclosed at the end of the investigation into the then three-year-old girl's disappearance.

The Portuguese paper told how Detective Superintendent Stuart Prior, the officer in charge of the British end of the Madeleine inquiry, was one of those at the meeting in Portimao.

A Leicestershire Police spokesman refused to comment on the report and would not confirm which officers were in Portugal, only adding: 'Since Madeleine's disappearance we have been working closely with the Portuguese authorities, and as such officers from Leicestershire have made a number of trips to Portugal.

'Representatives from Leicestershire Constabulary are currently in Portugal to better understand how the disclosure process works following a criminal investigation in Portugal. This has included a meeting with the public prosecutor.'

The Leicestershire officers are expected to return to Britain within the next few days.


Heartbroken: Mrs McCann fiddles with a Find Madeleine bracelet and holds her daughter's favourite cuddly toy 100 days after her disappearance

While Mr and Mrs McCann, both aged 40, from Rothley, Leicestershire, remain 'arguidos' - or 'formal suspects' relating to their daughter's disappearance it is expected they will have this status lifted next week.

The investigation by the Portuguese police into Madeleine's disappearance from an Algarve holiday resort last summer is now coming to a close and officers have already filed a report for prosecutors.

The file will advise lawyers either to bring charges, request further inquiries or simply close the case.

In recent weeks Portuguese newspapers, citing anonymous sources, have repeatedly reported that the investigation would be shelved shortly - but could be reopened if new evidence emerged.

Fernando Jose Pinto Monteiro, Portugal's Attorney-General, fuelled expectations of a major announcement in the case last Wednesday.

He told reporters in Lisbon: 'The 'Maddie Case' will have a solution on Monday and you will hear of it.'

If the Portuguese authorities do shelve the case, the McCann's want their own private investigators to be given access to detectives' files so they can continue the search for Madeleine.

The McCanns' spokesman, Clarence Mitchell, said last night: 'Kate and Gerry are waiting to hear what the Attorney-General has to say on Monday, like everyone else, and they will not be commenting in advance in any shape or form.

'Obviously they are aware of numerous reports suggesting that the case is about to be shelved.

'If that is the case they hope that it is made very clear that their 'arguido' status is revoked and they hope to gain access to the police files so that their private investigators can continue the search for Madeleine.

'At the end of the day that is the most important thing - finding their daughter and keeping the search going.'



More...
Portugal's law chief says he will announce 'solution' to Madeleine McCann case next week
Robert Murat wins in Madeleine McCann court action



Madeleine was nearly four when she vanished from her family's holiday apartment in the seaside resort of Praia da Luz on May 3 last year.

Despite a huge police investigation and more than twelve months of intense coverage in the Portuguese and British media, she has still not been found.

The third arguido in the case, Algarve property consultant Robert Murat, 34, received £600,000 in libel damages from four newspaper groups on Thursday after the publication of a number of 'seriously defamatory' articles.

Mr Murat and the McCanns have all consistently and strenuously denied any involvement in Madeleine's disappearance.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldne ... ublic.html

 

[Texana]

Why would Midlands police be traveling at all to Portugal for this investigation?

They have no jurisdiction.

They weren't called in for consultation.

I doubt they were invited, so they invited themselves? Really?

That smells worse than a day old milkshake left in the car in summer.

 

[TinaD]

Lola: "The hoax was on those who believed these ridiculous stories."

REPLY: LOL! So why did Kate McCann desperately tell us she'd been in close proximity with 6 dead bodies in the last two weeks before their holidays - and had routinely taken 'Cuddle Cat' to work? As if. And then they rushed out another story that cadaver dog evidence had been ruled inadmissable in an Irish case - and was useless.

Boy, were they rattled when Eddie and Keela sniffed that death scent.

On Kate's clothes.

On Cuddle Cat.

On the floor of the children's bedroom.

And in the Renault Scenic.

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Tony, I'm new to Websluehts but have been following this case since it started. I was very unsure of their involvement - until this. If you truly were innocent and knew that your daughter had been taken by a stranger, why would you start coming out with these excuses? Surely you would say "The dogs must be wrong"?

This made me suspect them more than anything else I've read. Sadly.

 

[Barnaby]

Why would Midlands police be traveling at all to Portugal for this investigation?

They have no jurisdiction.

They weren't called in for consultation.

I doubt they were invited, so they invited themselves? Really?

That smells worse than a day old milkshake left in the car in summer.

Someone in Uk is extremely anxious that certain information is not released! Who & why?

Tony, I'm new to Websluehts but have been following this case since it started. I was very unsure of their involvement - until this. If you truly were innocent and knew that your daughter had been taken by a stranger, why would you start coming out with these excuses? Surely you would say "The dogs must be wrong"?

This made me suspect them more than anything else I've read. Sadly.

Welcome Tina, you are spot on! Why make ridiculous excuses & ridiculous they were, to justify the findings?

 

[TinaD]

Welcome Tina, you are spot on! Why make ridiculous excuses & ridiculous they were, to justify the findings?

Thanks Barnaby - only reason I can see is because you accept that the findings could be valid.

 

[april4sky]

It seems the McCanns will ask for the files to be turned over to their investigators. The Portuguese police bungled this - they looked first for the foreigner (Murat) and then at the other estrangeiros. This investigation was pathetic from the outset and the British tabloid press was willing to go for it hook, line and sinker. The hoax was on those who believed these ridiculous stories.

Wecome Lola.
I believe you are absolutely right. :clap: The hoax was on those who believe these stories.

There are hate sites where hoaxers have, and are very busy posting rumours/smears for the sole purpose of manipulating peoples opinions. IMO

 

[ThoughtFox]

I will argue the minutiae of this case until the day I die. I don't have to respect the decision if I do not agree with it.

I am capable of making these decisions for myself...thank you very much.

Exactly! There are famous cases in which people have been cleared or left uncharged, but that doesn't mean they are truly "cleared" with the public or that the crimes are "solved." There are reasons to keep studying these cases to get at the truth.

The Chandra Levy case is still "unsolved," but that doesn't mean that people won't be studying it years from now and speculating on the details. No one was ever charged, but a crime was still committed and somebody did it.

The Jonbenet Ramsey case is still unsolved, even if the parents walked free. It is still unknown what their role was, and one drop of blood from an unknown person doesn't clear the parents of everything.

The McCanns shouldn't celebrate yet.

 

[poco]

Maybe you've forgotten them?

Well, here's a reminder...

* I took Cuddle Cat to work with me
* I saw 6 dead bodies in my last fortnight at work
* Madeleine slipped on the steps of the plane and grazed her knee
* The children's ditry nappies were in the boot
* Gerry took rotting meat to the dump.

How easily we forget - so true, so sad.

 

[Barnaby]

Exactly! There are famous cases in which people have been cleared or left uncharged, but that doesn't mean they are truly "cleared" with the public or that the crimes are "solved." There are reasons to keep studying these cases to get at the truth.

The Chandra Levy case is still "unsolved," but that doesn't mean that people won't be studying it years from now and speculating on the details. No one was ever charged, but a crime was still committed and somebody did it.

The Jonbenet Ramsey case is still unsolved, even if the parents walked free. It is still unknown what their role was, and one drop of blood from an unknown person doesn't clear the parents of everything.

The McCanns shouldn't celebrate yet.

Too right Toughtfox, How many guilty people have walked free while another innocent was executed in the wrong?
The Hanratty case, A6 murder, in the Uk was a famous example of that! A woman lied because she was having an affair & didn't want to be caught out & the wrong man was convicted & executed, only years later did the truth come out!
Charged & convicted doesn't always mean guilty as not charged or convicted doesn't always mean innocent!

Whether the McCanns are charged with having a direct hand in her death or not they will always be guilty of allowing whatever happened to Madeleine to happen! They are guilty of neglecting that precious little girl, leaving her alone & afraid in the dark & the huge crime of just not caring either before or after the event! I don't care what advice they were given no caring mother could behave in the manner that Kate McCann did after Madeleine disappeared! Jogging, sunbathing, not searching, not looking distraught, able to sleep well after the first few nights, indeed! No way on God's earth is that typical of a caring mother whose child may be with paedophiles. Sorry to bore you with these facts over & over again but fact they are!
& for the doubters put up a poll ask the mothers on here would any one of them have reacted as she did, make a list of the things that she did, let the voters check which they would have done & let the results speak for themselves!

 

[iNTERESTEDWOMAN]

Tony, I'm new to Websluehts but have been following this case since it started. I was very unsure of their involvement - until this. If you truly were innocent and knew that your daughter had been taken by a stranger, why would you start coming out with these excuses? Surely you would say "The dogs must be wrong"?

This made me suspect them more than anything else I've read. Sadly.

Maybe you've forgotten them?

Well, here's a reminder...

* I took Cuddle Cat to work with me
* I saw 6 dead bodies in my last fortnight at work
* Madeleine slipped on the steps of the plane and grazed her knee
* The children's ditry nappies were in the boot
* Gerry took rotting meat to the dump.

How easily we forget - so true, so sad.

If the sent of death was found by a highly trained & renowned canine unit in a car I rented after my child went missing, and I had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with it, I would be demanding that every person who previously stepped foot NEAR that car be made a person of interest...interrogated, finger printed, DNA tested...the works. I'd use "the fund" to fight any powers that be who would deny my request.

Their excuses and demeanor after this discovery, even for the innocent are too suspect. They were overly eager to offer a multitude of other explanations as Tina and poco point out. "The dogs are wrong, it's simply dirty diapers and rotten meat" :furious: What about, "OMG, who drove this car before us and when???" Most of us here at WS wondered who had previously rented the car, heck, even one of our McCann supporters suggested that maybe a dead pig was hauled in the boot. The media speculated, but the McCanns never even suggested that maybe the Paedophile kidnapper might have driven that car previous to them....the dogs are wrong, it was rotting meat and dirty diapers....Period.

 

[Salem]

Welcome Lola and TinaD! Glad to have you here at websleuths!


Interesting about the English interference. Texana - I'm with you! I don't generally go in for these conspiracy theories, but this is not the first we have heard of it. Not too long ago there was an article, maybe the one about the Portugese cop that was taken off the case? That article insinuated that British LE was also "warned from the top" down and not allowed to do all/say all that could have been done/said.

Why? Why would the British govt give a hoot, really?

Confused,

Salem

 

[Barnaby]

If the sent of death was found by a highly trained & renowned canine unit in a car I rented after my child went missing, and I had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with it, I would be demanding that every person who previously stepped foot NEAR that car be made a person of interested...interrogated, finger printed, DNA tested...the works. I'd use "the fund" to fight any powers that be who would deny my request.

Their excuses and demeanor after this discovery, even for the innocent are too suspect. They were overly eager to offer a multitude of other explanations as Tina and poco point out. "The dogs are wrong, it's simply dirty diapers and rotten meat" :furious: What about, "OMG, who drove this car before us and when???" Most of us here at WS wondered who had previously rented the car, heck, even one of our McCann supporters suggested that maybe a dead pig was hauled in the boot. The media speculated, but the McCanns never even suggested that maybe the Paedophile kidnapper might have driven that car previous to them....the dogs are wrong, it was rotting meat and dirty diapers....Period.

Too right IW, the McCanns instead of even thinking that someone else could have had Madeleine's body in the car, immediately became defensive & tried to explain away the fact that they & noone else were responsible for that DNA being in the car!
Like you I would have made a big deal of finding out who deposited that DNA that is if I knew it wasn't me!

Welcome Lola and TinaD! Glad to have you here at websleuths!


Interesting about the English interference. Texana - I'm with you! I don't generally go in for these conspiracy theories, but this is not the first we have heard of it. Not too long ago there was an article, maybe the one about the Portugese cop that was taken off the case? That article insinuated that British LE was also "warned from the top" down and not allowed to do all/say all that could have been done/said.

Why? Why would the British govt give a hoot, really?

Confused,

Salem

Someone big from UK is involved in this, I have said that from the beginning!