Brianna Denison 19yo Reno NV #5

[LionRun]

I think this was a situation that was not well thought out by the perp. It looks smewhat like he was not planning on killing her. You would think he would have tried to hide her in a more secluded area if he had planned it.

True, but I know of a serial killer, Roger Fain, who left two of his victims, Darlene Anderson and Sandra Dumont right near to each other in a field fairly near to his home. Fain likely planned to murder them, yet he left them in a similar type of place that Brianna was left. Then again, Brianna's killer might not be that experience at killing and dumping bodies. That sounds so awful, I know. It's just so hard to know if he meant to kill her or he just choked/asphyxiated her for too long. But, like Pat Brown said tonight on NG, he has now killed once--he will probably kill again.

Lion

 

[SeriouslySearching]

His planning will depend on when she was dumped in that field. Obviously, since LE has decided it is information only known to them and the killer...it wasn't right after she was abducted. This could mean he did plan for her to be found eventually at least. Look at the remote locations he could have taken her within minutes of abducting her. He could have driven five minutes away and dumped her body under such brush...and it may not have been found.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Greta is discussing the case now on Fox.

 

[panthera]

Greta is discussing the case now on Fox.

And once again the reporter had to correct her on the dates of the assaults, and now I'm hearing that the man who discovered Brianna's body saw her out an office window, where Nancy's show said he took his lunchtime walk through the field. I just wish they'd get the stories straight!

 

[SeriouslySearching]

LOL Go Mark F! "I question this...why wasn't this connected long before Jan. 20th?!" asked Mark Furhman when talking about the previous two rape cases 4 blocks from one another. He pre-empted it with not wanting to really second guess LE. LMAO

 

[panthera]

LOL Go Mark F!

I'm listening (and watching :blowkiss: )!!

eta ~ that wasn't long enough! I wish he were the lead detective on this case!

 

[LionRun]

But, killers often dump bodies in a location that they feel comfortable doing so in--regardless of whether or not there is a huge open space just minutes away from their choice. Some plan a little better, but some don't.

Lion

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Remind me to write him a nice thank you letter and another one to Nancy. LOL I feel vindicated for my outrageous behavior here. I left out Brianna's uncle, too. Funny how we can all come to one conclusion and others want to believe it didn't exist or didn't warrant discussion.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

But, killers often dump bodies in a location that they feel comfortable doing so in--regardless of whether or not there is a huge open space just minutes away from their choice. Some plan a little better, but some don't.

Lion

I am beginning to think more and more that he does work or live around there. He wanted to see everything going on. He may feel "accomplished" at this point since he has not been caught and the clues could be leading the public away from him. He has an ego which is evident because he went back to victim #2's apt. He is very arrogant.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

And once again the reporter had to correct her on the dates of the assaults, and now I'm hearing that the man who discovered Brianna's body saw her out an office window, where Nancy's show said he took his lunchtime walk through the field. I just wish they'd get the stories straight!

The man turned it into his manager before contacting LE. This could be the person who could see it after the other man pointed it out. So both stories could be correct.

 

[10EC_Dad]

I can understand them doing that, but that information should be included in a caption with the sketch, imo.

I agree with that also.

 

[panthera]

The man turned it into his manager before contacting LE. This could be the person who could see it after the other man pointed it out. So both stories could be correct.

Oh, thanks. I missed the part about the manager.

Have a good night everyone!

 

[10EC_Dad]

True, but I know of a serial killer, Roger Fain, who left two of his victims, Darlene Anderson and Sandra Dumont right near to each other in a field fairly near to his home. Fain likely planned to murder them, yet he left them in a similar type of place that Brianna was left. Then again, Brianna's killer might not be that experience at killing and dumping bodies. That sounds so awful, I know. It's just so hard to know if he meant to kill her or he just choked/asphyxiated her for too long. But, like Pat Brown said tonight on NG, he has now killed once--he will probably kill again.

Lion

The escalation will just continue.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Will he change his location or his MO? Or both?! I don't see him stopping the behavior, but does this escalation make him go back into the same area and do even worse?!

 

[10EC_Dad]

Remind me to write him a nice thank you letter and another one to Nancy. LOL I feel vindicated for my outrageous behavior here. I left out Brianna's uncle, too. Funny how we can all come to one conclusion and others want to believe it didn't exist or didn't warrant discussion.

This just sounds so much like middle school playground behavior.

 

[LionRun]

I have the same questions that Mark F. and several people here have had. They may have made mistakes in this case. I never said that they didn't. Some things thought of as mistakes may not be mistakes. We don't know what is going on behind the scenes. I choose to focus on what can be done now, what can be learned from mistakes to help prevent future attacks, and what we can do to make a difference. What can be done in my own city and state to help prevent the same thing (no funds for DNA testing) from happening here?

That is one reason why I decided to do K9 SAR years ago. I was a victim and wanted to find a way to do something in other victims' best interests. Well, that and I love dogs and working with them. It is troubling to see so much LE fault finding. It doesn't help make positive change, and that is one of the main reasons that I'm here on websleuths. I'm sorry if I offended anyone for that is not my intention.

Lion

 

[10EC_Dad]

Will he change his location or his MO? Or both?! I don't see him stopping the behavior, but does this escalation make him go back into the same area and do even worse?!

He will just continue to escalate. He is out of controll. His mo will not change. The location may change but that probably depends more on the timing of his next attack. If it is soon, the location will probably change. But I agree he is very arrogant so, he may not. I hope he is just arrogant enough to get caught in his next attempt.

 

[LionRun]

The escalation will just continue.

I think so too. I sure hope that they catch this slime before he hurts or kills any other young women.

Lion

 

[SeriouslySearching]

This just sounds so much like middle school playground behavior.

You just haven't gotten to know me well enough to know I don't hate. My "bashing" as you called it was what everyone else was thinking, too. I wasn't out of sync with the perception of other people...I was just more adamant on speaking my mind. It is what I do. I will defend my views and myself. It isn't a NEED to bash LE. It is a desire for LE to take more seriously crimes committed against women. It is problematic in this country. Unless you are a woman and have been on the other side...you don't have a clue where I am coming from.

I like you just fine and I will argue when I feel the need arises. Doesn't mean I hold any ill will towards you or anyone else that disagrees with me. I am not a mean spirited person at all.

 

[LionRun]

He sure is arrogant, bold, and twisted. His MO may change a little, but what turns him on he might continue to do. So, his MO may not change very much if at all. If there is another area somewhere in the Reno area that he feels comfortable abducting young women from he might change his abduction location in an effort not to get caught. Then again, he might be so bold and arrogant and redevelop a strong compulsion to abduct/rape and possibly kill that he might just grab a young woman from the same area.

Lion