Brianna Denison 19yo Reno NV #5

[dimples37398]

I don't think they were accidently left at all, I also don't think that he has been keeping these for years....

I have a weird creepy crawly feeling that they may be a girlfriends or wife whom may be involved somehow, wether knowing what he is doing, participating, helping cover up......something....I believe they were what he used to strangle her. I really really really have a feeling they were a females that is still in his life.

I hope and pray this isn't the case, but I just have a strange feeling that it may very well be the case, and this could be why nobody has turned him in.

Actually in that one crazy dream the other night where I dreamt that the blood on the pillow was from her biting her tongue, I also dreamt something about the significant other being involved somehow. I told hubby about it and just blew it off. I have never and still don't have dreams that mean or amount to anything at all.

A family man, wife, kids, little league coach, soccer coach, position of authority?....something. I am betting when he is caught that a whole bunch of people in his life will be stunned.

Kel

 

[newshound81]

Does anyone know what phase the moon was in the night Brianna was abducted? I guess what I am really asking is, how much light is available at night where Brianna was found?

According to http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/astronomy.html?n=127&month=1&year=2008&obj=moon&afl=-1&day=1, it was between the first quarter and full and it was 97 percent illuminated. It set at around 5:30. The sun did not rise that day tilk 7 a.m....time in darkness for the perp to carry out his crime.

 

[newshound81]

Same here adnoid. Also, I just had a sick thought: what if the panties represent what the perp wants to be known as in terms of hunting women - "The Pink Panther?"

 

[aj1020]

I know its a pain. Want a forum to thread out some subjects??

I really think a forum would be a good idea at this point. We already have 4 threads for Bri, and I have a feeling that this case is going to get alot stranger before it's solved.

We didn't take chico up on the forum offer from yesterday. Thanks, chico.

 

[lorelei]

http://www.amazon.com/Panther-Caugh...r_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=apparel&qid=1203455476&sr=1-4
This pattern looks closer to the one in the picture, but no hearts from what I can tell. Its from the same shop as the other pair close enough posted. Maybe the exact style isn't sold anymore. Does anyone think this pattern matches (minus the hearts)?
add- also not thong, but again maybe that style isn't sold anymore?

 

[chicoliving]

Soon as I get back I'll get it er up and going! bbs

 

[newshound81]

Found them in white:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Auth-PINK-PANTH...ZWD1VQQ_trksidZp1638.m118.l1247QQcmdZViewItem

 

[Ca-Sun]

Perhaps they are from a women he was involved with in the past, the message being "Go to the cops, sweetheart, and you or someone you care about will be next".

Let's hope!

 

[lew657]

I searched a bunch of websites and I couldn't find a match to these. Must be an old style - the hearts made me think a valentine's day pair? The article does say the appear "worn" and in the picture they look faded (could be the pic but makes me think they could be last year's style?

IMO he wanted them to be found - he wants credit for his "accomplishments." I think he feels he is smarter than the LE and they will never catch him - definitely not a convicted SO with DNA on file.

What about fingerprints - I work in finance and I know FINRA requires we all be fingerprinted. Not sure who they share their data with though. He carried her - there have to be some on her somewhere?

 

[NewMommy09]

Same here adnoid. Also, I just had a sick thought: what if the panties represent what the perp wants to be known as in terms of hunting women - "The Pink Panther?"

That thought crossed my mind also. A panther is a stealthy creature which stalks it's prey. Fitting maybe?

Adnoid,
I hadn't considered that the panties were left as a message/warning to a previous woman in his life. But that is a big possibility. How scary if that's the case.

Also, I wanted to mention that these panties probably belong to a teenager or college aged girl. While I'm sure some older women, may still wear them, especially if they fit into the Jr's size clothing still, cartoon character underwear is much more popular with the younger crowd.

 

[close_enough]

And be forewarned - a Google search on "black pink panther thong" gets you stuff you probably don't want. Adding "women's" helps. A little. But still nothing I've found that matches.

lol..thanks

i did a search with just the words "Pink Panther clothing"....i had no idea there was so much PP stuff out there!

 

[aj1020]

The RJG has a full picture of them:

Panties - Full Shot

I see that there is a tag on there but they are not giving out the info on the tag - very smart!

I just think the undies are worn and old and the writing on the satin tag has worn off. Mine do that quite often and I think it's pretty common.

 

[aj1020]

Also, I wanted to mention that these panties probably belong to a teenager or college aged girl. While I'm sure some older women, may still wear them, especially if they fit into the Jr's size clothing still, cartoon character underwear is much more popular with the younger crowd.

Ummm, without revealing too much info that ya'll don't want to hear , I think you'd be surprised at the age of women who wear thongs. It's many, many years past the college-age. If my circle of friends is any indication - I'd say up into the lower 30s it's fairly common.

 

[close_enough]

http://www.amazon.com/Panther-Caugh...r_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=apparel&qid=1203455476&sr=1-4
This pattern looks closer to the one in the picture, but no hearts from what I can tell. Its from the same shop as the other pair close enough posted. Maybe the exact style isn't sold anymore. Does anyone think this pattern matches (minus the hearts)?
add- also not thong, but again maybe that style isn't sold anymore?

yes, i think it's very close to the pattern, but i think you're right...i'll guess the style isn't sold anymore.....hmmm

 

[DeltaDawn]

The RJG has a full picture of them:

Panties - Full Shot

I see that there is a tag on there but they are not giving out the info on the tag - very smart!

Also..notice the bows..they are in very good shape, after several washings they would have frayed somewhat.

Yep, he purposely left these. I think they belong to another vic that has not come forward. Maybe it is meant to scare her enough to believe he's coming back for more. If she had come forward then the police would know who she was, they'd have her DNA. He is trying to leave a message not only to police but to the owner of those panties. I pray this person, if still alive, gets her self to the police and fast.

Or, this is far out there though, these belong to his next vic who he has been stalking. He grabbed them somewhere in a laundry mat where students do their laundry, out of someone's dirty wash pile. Then had his way with them if you will. I know..I did say this was bizarre.

Anywhoo anyone missing thongs matching these needs to get to the police ASAP.

Also the description says he is about 5"6" tall ..that is relatively short for a man..so that should help narrow the search somewhat..if that info is correct.

 

[close_enough]

I just think the undies are worn and old and the writing on the satin tag has worn off. Mine do that quite often and I think it's pretty common.

yep, i think you're right...they do look old/faded somewhat, imo....

eta..thanks for the full shot, adnoid

 

[Leila]

Some Other Issues:

It is possible that Brianna may have been severely unconscious or dead before being removed from the house. This is certainly not to assert that she didn't fight like crazy; however, if this guy did get the jump on her and covered her with a pillow to the point of a nose bleed there may have also been enough pressure to have killed her.

I cannot possibly rule out (1) either a part-time student at UNR; or (2) perhaps a maintenance worker; yet, most of all and (3) I do not believe that Brianna was the intended victim. Here's my reasoning:

It seems to me that this perp is very well aware of this house, its occupants, and all manner of things that go on inside. To leave a door unlocked—anywhere in this country—is basically an act of lunacy. How quickly do you suppose just by word of mouth it spread throughout a university district that there's a party and if no one answers the door, just walk in, they leave it unlocked? This is extremely real to me insofar as it's happened to me.

Moreover, I've been privy to such information just sitting in class before. So I ask my friend, a very attractive (to-die-for) friend, "hey…what's up with that rubbish?" She says to me, "…oh everyone knows I have roommates that are on the football team so they don't around…" What if…

Lastly, DeltaDawn...the attempt burglary was approximately 5 or so hours before Brianna was abducted. From what I gathered, the Dec. victim originally "out of town" then the next thing I read was she was "out of the country" and then spoken to again via telephone.

Leviosa.............you bring up some excellent points. In particular in regards to how Brianna's blood may have gotten on the pillow. If she had been sound asleep and the suspect entered so quietly that she didn't wake up, he could have grabbed her from behind like the other victim, with his hand over her mouth and nose. She struggled, and he placed a pillow over her face to subdue her. That would account for why the others didn't hear anything and it accounts for the blood on the pillow. Brianna may have been unconscious when she was taken out of there.

 

[NewMommy09]

Ummm, without revealing too much info that ya'll don't want to hear , I think you'd be surprised at the age of women who wear thongs. It's many, many years past the college-age. If my circle of friends is any indication - I'd say up into the lower 30s it's fairly common.

Sorry, I think my post was unclear. I didn't mean to suggest that thongs are not generally worn by older women, but that cartoon character underwear is not as popular with older women. (I know there are some who will wear them still). I am petite and still shop in the Jr's section but I avoid alot of the cutesy stuff. I think alot less cartoon themed clothing is available for older women.

 

[close_enough]

Found them in white:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Auth-PINK-PANTH...ZWD1VQQ_trksidZp1638.m118.l1247QQcmdZViewItem

oh, you sure did!

 

[aj1020]

Sorry, I think my post was unclear. I didn't mean to suggest that thongs are not generally worn by older women, but that cartoon character underwear is not as popular with older women. (I know there are some who will wear them still). I am petite and still shop in the Jr's section but I avoid alot of the cutesy stuff. I think alot less cartoon themed clothing is available for older women.

Oh gotcha. Yes, I agree that cartoon characters would mostly be worn by the college crowd... which definitely seems to fit the perp's MO.