Brianna Denison 19yo Reno NV #5

[dimples37398]

http://www.krnv.com/global/story.asp?s=7892883

Police asked area resident Scott Birmingham to submit a DNA sample after a tip came in. Birmingham, who does not fit the suspect description, said police were nice and apologetic about having to go through with the testing. Birmingham says he's happy to help in the process.

 

[j2mirish]

I wish with all my heart that I hadn't been in a position to do this.

My daughter had a couple of her friends spend the night this weekend. I was out in back running the BBQ and avoiding the teenage girl talk. It was a beautiful night, the moon a little more than 1/2 full. I looked up and thought, "You know, this beautiful night, this beautiful moon, shines down on me, but also on the heartache of Brianna's family and friends, as well as on the monster that cut her life short. Why? Why should he get to enjoy anything?"

Sometimes I have doubts about my support of the Death Penalty. Then some pitiful wast of oxygen like our perp will come along and remind me that not all lives are valuable. This worthless scumbucket needs to assume room temperature without delay.

:blowkiss::blowkiss:

 

[NewMommy09]

I searched a bunch of websites and I couldn't find a match to these. Must be an old style - the hearts made me think a valentine's day pair? The article does say the appear "worn" and in the picture they look faded (could be the pic but makes me think they could be last year's style?

While googling it myself, I found a hit that had a Valentines Day special on some Pink Panther undies, though I couldn't open the link (blocked at work). But it made me wonder, is there some significance to Valentine's Day? I had to question it due to the fact that Bri was found the day after V-day, and the panties seem V-day themed. That lead me to a horrible thought...
Could the perp have abducted someone else (maybe even on V-day) and left the panties where he left Bri's body? As in "Here's a clue to the next one"?

I know I am stretching here, but I really think there is a message to be deciphered.

 

[SuziQ]

Or, this is far out there though, these belong to his next vic who he has been stalking. He grabbed them somewhere in a laundry mat where students do their laundry, out of someone's dirty wash pile. Then had his way with them if you will. I know..I did say this was bizarre.

I don't think it's far out there at all. Very plausible IMO.

 

[SuziQ]

The UW doesn't look like it's been exposed to the elements or exposed to the elements that long. Were they sealed in a bag? Or was Brianna not there very long.

 

[dimples37398]

Here is a link to the large photo of the panties that Newshound found. They do seem to be the exact same ones but white. On these the bows are pink..I would assume they are suppose to be pink on the black ones too, they look silver/gray to me though.

http://img.inkfrog.com/click_enlarge1.php?image=feb07_437.jpg&username=dragonrath45

Here is a link to an article where you can see the closer photo of the ones found near brianna....You can click on the photos in the article to blow them up bigger....

http://www.nevadaappeal.com/article/20080219/NEWS01/626051833

 

[newshound81]

DeltaDawn and StillHoping, I think those are great theories! I completely forgot that Brianna was found right after Valentine's Day. The only thing that would be slightly weird about that is the fact that Brianna was there for at least a week, possibly longer. So these panties, whoever they belong to, were taken at least a week and a half ago at this point.

 

[DeltaDawn]

The UW doesn't look like it's been exposed to the elements or exposed to the elements that long. Were they sealed in a bag? Or was Brianna not there very long.

I agree the thongs don't look like they have been in the snow, dirt etc and the bows on them are not frayed, they look perfect from that stan point. Maybe Brianna was clothed and he stuffed these inside a pocket or under her shirt. Otherwise I would think they would look much worse if laying in the elements for atleast a week. Interesting we have heard no more on an exact timeframe that they believe she was laying there or the time of death.

 

[newshound81]

Oops, I meant two and a half weeks! I can't do math :crazy:

 

[Leila]

"Reno police are trying to identify the female who owned a pair of Pink Panther thong underwear found with Brianna Denison’s body on Friday.

Lt. Robert McDonald said DNA of an unknown woman and the DNA of the man who abducted and strangled Denison were on the panties. McDonald said the underwear was found with Denison’s body but was not hers. The male DNA found on the panties is from the same man who committed at least two sexually motivated crimes against other young college women recently."

More here

OMG...........there might be another victim out there.....someone who the suspect raped and kept their underwear as a souvenir. OR, is this the underwear of the wife or girlfriend of the suspect!

 

[newshound81]

OMG...........there might be another victim out there.....someone who the suspect raped and kept their underwear as a souvenir. OR, is this the underwear of the wife or girlfriend of the suspect!

If anyone cares to sift through with me, I just found the police blotters for UNR for all of 2007 and this year: http://www.unr.edu/vpaf/police/blotters/BlotterArchives2007.htm

 

[aj1020]

If anyone cares to sift through with me, I just found the police blotters for UNR for all of 2007 and this year: http://www.unr.edu/vpaf/police/blotters/BlotterArchives2007.htm

I wonder why they only have the daily blotters from certain days. All the important, recent dates aren't available.

ETA: nevermind, I'm dumb. It's just the summary of the previous days activities, posted on that certain day...:doh:

 

[Leila]

I just got back from the site, and my previous assumption of where she was found was incorrect. Here is a map, with the location of Brianna's body marked with a blue dot:

Map of the field

There has been a cross erected and rose petals scattered on the spot:

Cross at Site

To try to answer questions about what could have been seen from windows of buildings surrounding the location, I stood as close as I felt respectful to the point she was found and, starting with the closest building (the irregular one immediately West) I took a series of pictures, turning counterclockwise:

Picture 1
Picture 2
Picture 3
Picture 4
Picture 5

Note: In the last picture what looks like 2nd floor offices is a parapet - you can see it on the adjacent building.

Note that the Google map does not show some buildings that are there now. While it may be hard to tell, her body was in a ditch, so I doubt it could be seen from the windows in the buildings that did have them, as they were pretty far away.

The signs around town have been updated:

Bring Bri Justice

Adnoid..............thanks for the pictures! A question: in the first picture there's what looks like some sort of office building on the far left with a parking lot that borders the field. The place where Brianna's body was found looks like a well-worn path from the parking lot of that building on the left to the other street where the path ends. On the other street, there's two buildings together and then one with a red roof. Are any of those buildings restaurants?

What I'm wondering is if employees of the office building on the left cut through the field to a restaurant for lunch on regular basis?

 

[NewMommy09]

DeltaDawn and StillHoping, I think those are great theories! I completely forgot that Brianna was found right after Valentine's Day. The only thing that would be slightly weird about that is the fact that Brianna was there for at least a week, possibly longer. So these panties, whoever they belong to, were taken at least a week and a half ago at this point.

Thanks Newshound81,

I wanted to point out though, that while unlikely, this guy could have left Bri's body there, abducted someone else, and then returned to where he left Bri to leave the panties of the next victim. It is certainly common for killers to return to the scene of the crime. Scott Peterson visited the Berkely(sp?) Marina multiple times before Laci was found. And the perp is undoubtedly following this case, so he would have known they hadn't found Bri yet.

 

[newshound81]

All right, here's what I found of minor interest from Sept to Dec. Check out the Dec. 2 one - a missing person! I don't know how to find out whether or not it was resolved.

09-11-07 15:03 hrs UN07-0775 401 W. 2nd Street
Incident
Reported by Officer Eric James

A university student reported an assault that took place at her residence.

11-05-07 19:48 hrs UN07-0946 Mack Social Science
Incident
Reported by Officer John Whitehorn

A university student reported an incident of sexual harassment at the Mack Social Science Building.
11-19-07 14:45 hrs UN07-0998 Police Services Office
Sex Offender Registration
Reported by Jeanne Ohlson


A convicted sex offender reported to University Police Services to complete registration as required by law.

12-02-07 13:28 hrs UN07-1028 Argenta Hall
Missing Person
Reported by Officer Eric James


A university student reported her sister missing since Friday November 30th. The missing person is also a university student.
12-10-07 12:14 hrs UN07-1049 Virginia & 11th St.
Suspicious Circumstance
Reported by Lt. Ed Rinne


A university student reported a suspicious male approaching her vehicle as she attempted to leave a parking space near Virginia & 11th St.

 

[paddy01]

If anyone cares to sift through with me, I just found the police blotters for UNR for all of 2007 and this year: http://www.unr.edu/vpaf/police/blotters/BlotterArchives2007.htm

First one that caught my eye was 12/2/07 A University student reported sister missing 11/30, who is also University student.
Every time I try to pull this link up it shuts my computer down!

 

[glezell]

OMG...........there might be another victim out there.....someone who the suspect raped and kept their underwear as a souvenir. OR, is this the underwear of the wife or girlfriend of the suspect!

It would either have to be another victim or someone involved I would think. I immediately thought of Karla Holmolka case when i read this.

Was she wearing these panties or were they just found with her body? do we know?

 

[aj1020]

A convicted sex offender reported to University Police Services to complete registration as required by law.

Convicted sex offenders can live on college campuses in Nevada?? Scary!!

 

[Leila]

IMO, this case happened too long ago. But you never know.

http://www.theyaremissed.org/ncma/gallery/ncmaprofile_all.php?A200300833W

I think this case is going to get more complicated. Do we want a forum?

Yes! I think a forum on this case is an excellent idea! There too many aspects for just one thread. It needs to be divided up into the victims, the suspect, the suspect vehicle, etc.

 

[NewMommy09]

If anyone cares to sift through with me, I just found the police blotters for UNR for all of 2007 and this year: http://www.unr.edu/vpaf/police/blotters/BlotterArchives2007.htm

08-08-07 23:50 hrs UN07-0673 N. Virginia St.
Field Interview
Reported by Officer Richard Hicks


A subject in a traffic stop was questioned regarding his status as a registered sex offender. Information was submitted to the Reno PD Sex Offender Unit for review.