Brianna Denison 19yo Reno NV #5

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  • #341
Something that has bothered me since I read it yesterday is the following brief excerpt from the RGJ:

“This case is shocking to us, but to 99.9 percent of the people who live in this community, they have no comprehension and cannot even fathom that someone had done what this guy did,” McDonald said. “He’s a deviant not working on the same moral plane as the rest of us. Something is wrong with this person.”

That quote is from one of the detectives working on the case. What I read into that quote is that there's something more about this case - something different than a rape/murder. Police have been quiet about evidence found at the scene and the condition of Brianna's body. Only today did they release the information and picture of the underwear found at the scene.

There's something about this suspect that's particularly heinous.

Link to article where that quote is from:
http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080218/NEWS01/80218030/0/NEWS18&theme=DENISON

You know, I did not read anything into their statement other than the crimes of rape and murder. But I do think there is alot we don't know about.

It is interesting that they asked for the owner of the thong to come forward. That would indicate they have no reason to believe that she (thong owner) is dead.
 
  • #342
Something that has bothered me since I read it yesterday is the following brief excerpt from the RGJ:

“This case is shocking to us, but to 99.9 percent of the people who live in this community, they have no comprehension and cannot even fathom that someone had done what this guy did,” McDonald said. “He’s a deviant not working on the same moral plane as the rest of us. Something is wrong with this person.”

That quote is from one of the detectives working on the case. What I read into that quote is that there's something more about this case - something different than a rape/murder. Police have been quiet about evidence found at the scene and the condition of Brianna's body. Only today did they release the information and picture of the underwear found at the scene.

There's something about this suspect that's particularly heinous.

Link to article where that quote is from:
http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080218/NEWS01/80218030/0/NEWS18&theme=DENISON

I noticed that too! and I hate to say it but, the first thing that came to my mind was Imette St Guillen.
 
  • #343
I noticed that too! and I hate to say it but, the first thing that came to my mind was Imette St Guillen.

That's who I thought of too BIGBUCK.
 
  • #344
Refocusing on the suspect, I want to restate my "profile" of the perp and get your thoughts.

Male in early 30s
Married/recently divorced
Lives in suburb within 30 mins of crimes ( I have suspected an area like North Valleys based on proximity and demograhics obtained from Google Maps and Census websites)
Works within 15 mins of crimes
Chose his "territory" due to the availabilty of chosen "targets"
Is quite, no close friends, however can be charming
Has no previous criminal record

I may be way off base in my opinion. I would greatly appreciate others' "profile".

I do not think murder was his motive with Brianna. It may have been contemplated but not the ultimate objective. I think the murder is an example that his sickness is writing checks that his intelligance can't cover. Thus, Brianna was found in an unlikely location not indicitive of a well thought out disposal plan.

It appears obvious that his sickness is progressing. He is loosing more control of his actions and covers his fear with quite arrogance. He will strike again but not on his monthly cycle this month. Will likely go to a prostitute this month.

Someone suspects it is him, but beyond the coincidental indicators, he does not have the "personality" of someone who could do these things. The person who suspects is afraid of falsely accusing someone with no visiable signs of being such a monster. We should all pray for this person to have courage.

If this person does not call in the tip, the perp will strike again. He will be careless and hopefully caught while pursuing the victim.

Again, I would appreciate others' similar posts.

I'm just catching up on what was posted today, so I apologize for commenting so late - and for saying things that may have already been said. Anyway...

I agree with most of your profile, but I doubt he lives in the North Valleys. I live there and there are very, very few apartment complexes, and the cost to rent a house in Reno is ridiculous, especially in the North due to the size of the properties. I don't see the perp owning a house. Even the wages for a "good" paying job in Reno are disproportionate to the cost of housing. I further don't think he has a "good" paying job.

There is also an element of compartmentalization here. What I mean is that people tend to stay in their own areas (around their residence or work). For example, you won't find people from the South, going up to Spanish Springs, unless for a very specific reason, like to visit someone. I think Adnoid will agree with on that.

I see the perp living near UNR, both for the lower rents and being familiar with the area. If he was just targeting students, as opposed to targeting students in a particular area, he could just as well be hunting at Truckee Meadows Community College. I think he knows that many of the UNR students live very near the campus and may walk home, giving him easy access. The area around UNR also has lots of winding little streets that might pose a problem for a perp unfamiliar with the area.

I think there is a tie to the university, and a reason he is targeting pretty, fresh-faced young women. If he just wanted a young women, UNR isn't very far from 4th Street, where most of the illegal prostitutes hang out.

He maybe targeting the sort of women who reject him (or looks like a specific woman who rejected him). Maybe he looks weird or something. Despite not being able to score with the sort of women he is attracted to, I agree with you that he is married/lives with a woman, or recently did. I think she has a child, probably by him, and he's lost interest in her since the baby came along. I'm not sure he even cared that much for her to begin with. She may have just been convenient. He may also be abusive to her, perhaps just emotionally, because she isn't up to his "standards". I think the baby shoe belongs to her child - it may even be her vehicle. I opined before that she may work nights at a hospital or casino, and he's supposed to be watching the baby, but instead goes out hunting when the baby is asleep. In that scenario, he wouldn't have to account for being out late at night.

It also occurred to me yesterday, that he might have had to work the day he abducted Brianna. My reasoning is that the area he chose to dump her body is undeveloped enough that he knew the body wouldn't be quickly discovered, but if he really didn't want her to be found he wouldn't have to drive very much further in any direction to dump her where she likely wouldn't be found for years. I don't think he wanted her body discovered, I think he ran out of time.

I guess I should go back to reading the 10 or so pages I need to catch up on, since it's very likely someone has posted similar thoughts or have already come up with a scenario that blows mine out of the water.

This is all speculation and I reserve the right to ammend my opinion about any/all of this should hard evidence come to light or I just change my mind. :rolleyes:
 
  • #345
You know, I did not read anything into their statement other than the crimes of rape and murder. But I do think there is alot we don't know about.

It is interesting that they asked for the owner of the thong to come forward. That would indicate they have no reason to believe that she (thong owner) is dead.

That is why I kinda latched on to the wife or girlfriend aspect. Only she would know what type of undies she wore. The perp probably didn't know either. He may have thought including evidence of this nature would confuse the investigation vs. help it. Remember we are dealing with a person without a normal range of function or he wouldn't be committing these crimes.
 
  • #346
Something that has bothered me since I read it yesterday is the following brief excerpt from the RGJ:

“This case is shocking to us, but to 99.9 percent of the people who live in this community, they have no comprehension and cannot even fathom that someone had done what this guy did,” McDonald said. “He’s a deviant not working on the same moral plane as the rest of us. Something is wrong with this person.”

That quote is from one of the detectives working on the case. What I read into that quote is that there's something more about this case - something different than a rape/murder. Police have been quiet about evidence found at the scene and the condition of Brianna's body. Only today did they release the information and picture of the underwear found at the scene.

There's something about this suspect that's particularly heinous.

Link to article where that quote is from:
http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080218/NEWS01/80218030/0/NEWS18&theme=DENISON
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I wonder what the other evidence found along with her body is. (aside from the UW obviously) Also, without getting into graphic detail, WHERE was it found.
 
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I wonder what the other evidence found along with her body is. (aside from the UW obviously) Also, without getting into graphic detail, WHERE was it found.

I do wonder if they were used in her death.
 
  • #349
From an acrticle at the Reno Gazette-Journal: http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080219/NEWS01/802190344/1002

"Police are not disclosing information about the condition of her body or any evidence found on or near her body. They did say her abduction was sexually motivated and that they collected items of evidence found near her body that they are testing for clues."
Thanks, Dad. I was just wondering if she fought so hard that he just strangled her and didn't rape her. I personally think that he killed her shortly after he abducted her.
 
  • #350
Thank you for your reply.

You have convinced me that he does not reside in North Valleys.

However, I do not think he lives near campus either.

Are there any areas south of town off of 395 that would fit the demographic profile?
 
  • #351
I do wonder if they were used in her death.

I can't help but think that they were. I also cannot shake the terrible feeling that this creep put on some kind of show for LE to find.
 
  • #352
I can't help but think that they were. I also cannot shake the terrible feeling that this creep put on some kind of show for LE to find.


I think he dumped her just the way she died. I just can't go beyond that at this time.
 
  • #353
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I think he dumped her just the way she died. I just can't go beyond that at this time.

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to upset anyone.
 
  • #354
I've been lurking in this thread and want to ask a question, forgive me if this has already been asked:

is there a military base near Reno? I grew up in Nor Cal and I can't remember. I wonder if this person has a military connection.

Also I am a licensed PI so if I can be of any help with theories, feel free to PM me.

I think this person is very dangerous and will likely be escalating the behavior sooner rather than later.
 
  • #355
I've been lurking in this thread and want to ask a question, forgive me if this has already been asked:

is there a military base near Reno? I grew up in Nor Cal and I can't remember. I wonder if this person has a military connection.

Also I am a licensed PI so if I can be of any help with theories, feel free to PM me.

I think this person is very dangerous and will likely be escalating the behavior sooner rather than later.

Stead Training facility for Army Guard training site, I was thinking perhaps perp had military connection.
 
  • #356
Thank you for your reply.

You have convinced me that he does not reside in North Valleys.

However, I do not think he lives near campus either.

Are there any areas south of town off of 395 that would fit the demographic profile?

If you rule out the area around UNR, which is pretty dense, then he could live in a number of different areas, even Sparks. For the most part, the further south one goes, the newer/more expensive housing becomes (I used to work for the Housing Authority); however, there is a large low-income/subsidized apartment complex off S. Meadows Parkway. I don't in any way want to sterotype low-income families, I just don't don't think the perp is "white-collar" and would make enough to afford rent in the south (which tends to be more than my house payment).
 
  • #357
Something that has bothered me since I read it yesterday is the following brief excerpt from the RGJ:

“This case is shocking to us, but to 99.9 percent of the people who live in this community, they have no comprehension and cannot even fathom that someone had done what this guy did,” McDonald said. “He’s a deviant not working on the same moral plane as the rest of us. Something is wrong with this person.”

That quote is from one of the detectives working on the case. What I read into that quote is that there's something more about this case - something different than a rape/murder. Police have been quiet about evidence found at the scene and the condition of Brianna's body. Only today did they release the information and picture of the underwear found at the scene.

There's something about this suspect that's particularly heinous.

Link to article where that quote is from:
http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080218/NEWS01/80218030/0/NEWS18&theme=DENISON
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This is really terrible to think, but what if this guy "attacked" her postmortem?
 
  • #358
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This is really terrible to think, but what if this guy "attacked" her postmortem?

OMG! He could have accidentally killed her on the couch and then.... Would LE be able to tell ????
:eek:
 
  • #359
Stead Training facility for Army Guard training site, I was thinking perhaps perp had military connection.

Stead is an interesting idea; not for the "base" (it's really, really small), but that a disproportionate number of parolees reside in that area. I don't know why, but I recall that the residents were up in arms about it a few years ago. There is also an area called "Sun Valley", which is up Clearacre and is a pretty rough area. So is an area aproximately with Oddie to the north, Sullivan to the east, 4th Street to the south, west of UNR. This is a very vague approximation on my part. Reno/Sparks is kind of weird in that little pockets of high crime areas can change almost street by street.

I also noticed on Google maps that the area labeled "North Valley" isn't what we refer to as North Valley, which is actually further north up 395 by Lemmon Valley/Red Rock/Cold Springs. I can see now why 10EC_Dad suggested North Valley as a possible place the perp might live, if he was looking at Google maps.
 
  • #360
OMG! He could have accidentally killed her on the couch and then.... Would LE be able to tell ????
:eek:

If he injured her in a way that suggests the injury/injuries were sexually based and her body was not in an advanced state of decomposition a good forensics specialist might be able to tell if that injury/injuries were inflicted before or after death.

As horrible as it sounds your thinking may not be far fetched. That the one victim regained consciousness to find him assaulting her suggests it is possible that he may have necrophilic tendencies. Please know that I am not saying that this is true; I am only saying that I believe it is possible--along with many other things that may be possible.

Heck, I'd like to know who's underwear were found with Brianna's body, and why on earth they were there. I didn't think the slime was necessarily interested in taunting LE or the public. Most aren't. But, after today I'm rethinking that unless or until I learn that there is another completely different explanation.

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