GUILTY Brock Turner, college swimmer, CONVICTED of rape - sentenced to only 6 months in jail

[bluesneakers]

Because of the poor state of Santa Clara County's technology, accessing Persky's cases is virtually impossible for the public. The Palo Alto court clerk's office isn't equipped with a computer for public use, and it maintains only Persky's current, daily calendar.

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This seems a little bit ironic.

 

[i.b.nora]

^^Add to that, Persky is a Stanford almuni and an was athlete there. He never should have been assigned the case. Heck, I'm almost sure one of the elimination questions for potential jurors was: Do you have any past or present affiliation with Stanford U?

I've given that a great deal of thought and still am not sure how I feel about it. For example, it is really hard for someone to have lived in the area for a number of years and not have had some affiliation with Stanford. I have known and even worked with dozens of Stanford grads, a number of Stanford professors, a number of people who have been employed there in various capacities, and even a relative who has worked within the athletic department for some time. And, I myself have been following Stanford Women's Basketball for many many years. (And, Cal as well.) So, in some ways, I truly am biased, but would I be biased enough not to be able to put that all aside and judge fairly?

Judge Persky was born in Berkeley and his family resided in San Francisco in a fairly upscale neighborhood. His father was apparently a prominent psychiatrist and was associated with UCSF / Langley Porter. IMO, it would be hard for him not to have had some associations with Stanford, even if he hadn't gone to school there.

So, what I am saying is, I don't know if that played into his sentencing decision, or not. I just don't know. He strikes me as someone who is not as bright as perhaps his mother and father were, whose own advancement has been based on who his family is/was. His personal achievements seem almost non-existent and very lackluster. I mean, belonging to the National Honor Society and having that on your resume as one of only two 'achievements' at Stanford leaves me agog. So, I don't know, I am still wanting to know more about what is going on there.

 

[mister happy]

Oh, I meant to say that Persky was a Stanford alumnus -- not alumni. Whew.

 

[i.b.nora]

oh, i meant to say that persky was a stanford alumnus -- not alumni. Whew.

Boy, that was a close one. LOL!!! I had to look it up, and now I know. Thanks, I like learning new stuff.

 

[Francesca]

I've been puzzling about the timeline between when the victim's sister left the party (leaving the victim intoxicated yet in full possession of her faculties) and Brock Turner's attack on the unconscious victim. I've wondered whether the victim was drugged or had her drink spiked to make her go from "buzzed" to unconscious in a short space of time... One of my friends suggested that if she was in a crowded stuffy room and then went outside, the blast of cold fresh air in addition to the alcohol, might have been enough to make her faint.

According to Brock's original statement, he found her outside, rather than flirting with her inside and going out together. So maybe he followed the drunk girl outside, saw her collapse and considered this to be consent. The embellishments about flirting, consent etc, came later when he realized she had no memory of the incident.
Those stupid stupid parents are nurturing a potential serial rapist here. Tell him what he did was wrong!!!

 

[mister happy]

Boy, that was a close one. LOL!!! I had to look it up, and now I know. Thanks, I like learning new stuff.

Yep!

Masculine: alumnus, alumni
Feminine: alumna, alumnae

I'll just stick with "alum" in the future. lol

 

[i.b.nora]

Did not see this until today. Finally, some focus on other problem areas:

Brock Turner case: Probation department's report spared scrutiny
Mercury News
By Jacqueline Lee, Daily News Staff Writer
POSTED: 06/16/2016 04:53:16 AM PDT | UPDATED: 3 DAYS AGO

http://www.mercurynews.com/tim-kawakami/ci_30022489/d

“While public criticism has focused on a Santa Clara County judge for handing out what many consider a lenient sentence to a former Stanford swimmer convicted of felony sexual assault, the recommendation he followed has escaped similar scrutiny.

That recommendation came from a county probation officer days before Superior Court Judge Aaron Persky sentenced Brock Turner to six months in county jail and three years probation.

Judges weigh probation officers' suggestions in their sentencing decisions because they typically are more familiar with the range of offenders for specific crimes.”

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“Lassettre quoted the victim in the report: "I want him to know it hurt me, but I don't want his life to be over. I want him to be punished, but as a human, I just want him to get better. I don't want him to feel like his life is over and I don't want him to rot away in jail; he doesn't need to be behind bars."

The victim said in a 12-page victim impact statement, of which she read excerpts at the sentencing, that her interview with Lassettre lasted only 15 minutes.

"When I read the probation officer's report, I was in disbelief, consumed by anger which eventually quieted down to profound sadness," the victim wrote. "My statements have been slimmed down to distortion and taken out of context. I fought hard during this trial and will not have the outcome minimized by a probation officer who attempted to evaluate my current state and my wishes in a fifteen minute conversation, the majority of which was spent answering questions I had about the legal system."

It's unclear if the victim changed her mind between the May 3 interview with the probation officer and the sentencing or if Lassettre misunderstood what the victim tried to convey..

"The probation officer's recommendation ... is a soft timeout, a mockery of the seriousness of his assaults, and of the consequences of the pain I have been forced to endure," the victim wrote. "The seriousness of rape has to be communicated clearly and we should not create a culture that suggests we learn that rape is wrong through trial and error."​

 

[i.b.nora]

Brock Turner: Facebook page defends Stanford sexual assailant as 'real victim'
By Aaron Kinney, [email protected]
POSTED: 06/20/2016 01:53:03 PM PDT | UPDATED: 93 MIN. AGO

http://www.mercurynews.com/crime-co...acebook-page-supporting-stanford-rapist-roils

Its probably just me but this is the single most useless waste of time article I have read all day.

See what you think.

 

[bluesneakers]

Why even publish that crap? Facebook pages like that come and go - some are even worse! So what?

I'm with you.

 

[mister happy]

Oh lordy, if you have some time, try watching this Youtube video:

[video=youtube;JN7_pqgK8V0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN7_pqgK8V0[/video]

The woman speaking is Janice Fiamengo, professor at the University of Ottawa. Basically, she claims that Brock Turner suffered an injustice. She thinks both parties are equally to blame for their behavior, and should've simply received a "stern lecture" from the cops, and perhaps some counseling. Interestingly, there are hundreds of posts supporting Fiamengo's stance in the comment section!

Anyhow, I'm curious to know what my fellow Websleuthers think about all this.

 

[i.b.nora]

Haven't taken time to look at the video yet (I will eventually) but in the meantime there will be a press conference this morning, in about 20 minutes:

http://abc7news.com/news/santa-clara-county-da-to-push-for-new-sex-assault-legislation/1396234/

Wednesday, June 22, 2016 05:53AM
HAYWARD, Calif. (KGO) -- Santa Clara County District Attorney Jeffrey Rosen plans to hold a news conference on Wednesday on a push for new legislation to help protect sexual assault victims.

Rosen says it was inspired by the victim in the Brock Turner case. Turner was sentenced to six months in jail for sexually assaulting an unconscious woman in January 2015. The sentence sparked outrage nationwide by many who felt Judge Aaron Persky was too lenient.

Rosen plans to make his announcement at 10 a.m. at the Santa Clara County Superior Courthouse in Palo Alto.​

 

[bluesneakers]

How does she have a job?!!

 

[i.b.nora]

Brock Turner case: District Attorney Jeff Rosen introduces bill to send future Turners to prison
The Mercury News
By Katy Murphy
POSTED: 06/22/2016 11:30:15 AM PDT |

http://www.mercurynews.com/crime-co...-case-district-attorney-jeff-rosen-introduces

“PALO ALTO -- Santa Clara County District Attorney Jeff Rosen today unveiled legislation that would mandate at least a three-year prison sentence for anyone convicted of sexually assaulting an unconscious person.

The announcement comes amid an international outcry and local campaign to recall a judge over a lenient sentence handed this month to Brock Turner, a former Stanford student-athlete convicted of sexually assaulting an unconscious woman outside a fraternity party in January 2015.

Currently, Rosen said at a news conference in Palo Alto, a prison sentence of three to eight years is mandatory for sexual assault of a conscious person. And Rosen argues that should also be the case for people convicted of sexually assaulting an unconscious person.”​

More...

 

[i.b.nora]

Oh lordy, if you have some time, try watching this Youtube video:

The woman speaking is Janice Fiamengo, professor at the University of Ottawa. Basically, she claims that Brock Turner suffered an injustice. She thinks both parties are equally to blame for their behavior, and should've simply received a "stern lecture" from the cops, and perhaps some counseling. Interestingly, there are hundreds of posts supporting Fiamengo's stance in the comment section!

Anyhow, I'm curious to know what my fellow Websleuthers think about all this.

Well, I actually watched and listened to the entire presentation. In my humble opinion, she seems to be a professional women hater and duller than dirt. That's about it for me. Not someone compelling enough for me to want to spend another eighteen minutes with. Not someone I would seek out at a cocktail party. And, not someone whose opinion on anything will ever matter to me. But, thanks for sharing her with us, its always good to know first hand who to avoid in the future.

She is like one trick pony.

 

[mister happy]

Well, I actually watched and listened to the entire presentation. In my humble opinion, she seems to be a professional women hater and duller than dirt. That's about it for me. Not someone compelling enough for me to want to spend another eighteen minutes with. Not someone I would seek out at a cocktail party. And, not someone whose opinion on anything will ever matter to me. But, thanks for sharing her with us, its always good to know first hand who to avoid in the future.

She is like one trick pony.

Thanks for replying. It took me two attempts to get through the entire video. Of course, Fiamengo is into victim blaming, which I'm sure Turner's defense lawyer did at trial. The jury rejected that.

The video's comments are pretty crazy.. stuff such as: If she had not gotten drunk and passed out, none of this would have happened. She's just as culpable if not more so.

 

[LinasK]

Thanks for replying. It took me two attempts to get through the entire video. Of course, Fiamengo is into victim blaming, which I'm sure Turner's defense lawyer did at trial. The jury rejected that.

The video's comments are pretty crazy.. stuff such as: If she had not gotten drunk and passed out, none of this would have happened. She's just as culpable if not more so.

That woman isn't taking into account date rape drugs that are slipped into drinks, and that not all sexual assaults involve alcohol. Mine didn't. I was only 13.

 

[mister happy]

That woman isn't taking into account date rape drugs that are slipped into drinks, and that not all sexual assaults involve alcohol. Mine didn't. I was only 13.

As Francesca mentioned in post #285, it's suspicious how the victim went from buzzed to unconscious in a short space of time (after her sister left the party to walk a friend home). Brock Turner may have spiked the victim's drinks in order to greatly accelerate her intoxication.

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

As Francesca mentioned in post #285, it's suspicious how the victim went from buzzed to unconscious in a short space of time (after her sister left the party to walk a friend home). Brock Turner may have spiked the victim's drinks in order to greatly accelerate her intoxication.

From the first moment I read this victim's story I immediately thought she had been drugged. But wouldn't the hospital test for GHB or similar drugs under the circumstances?

 

[mister happy]

From the first moment I read this victim's story I immediately thought she had been drugged. But wouldn't the hospital test for GHB or similar drugs under the circumstances?

If her drinks were spiked, perhaps it was with highly concentrated alcohol, to quickly put her over the edge.

 

[i.b.nora]

I agree with everyone who thinks she was likely drugged. (It kind of screamed out from her statement, imo.)

Anyhow, here is a snippet of some info re GHB:

“Moreover, GHB metabolizes in the body quickly and therefore evades blood testing.

The effects of GHB

GHB or gamma hydroxybutyric acid is illegal, but its components can be easily obtained and preparing the drug is relatively simple.

When ingested in small amounts it generates a sense of relaxation similar to the effect of alcohol. A more substantial dose may cause dizziness, loss of balance, memory loss or slight paralysis. An overdose may result in coma or even death. Depending on the person, the drug takes effect 10–15 minutes or up to an hour after ingestion and lasts 3–6 hours.”​

That comes from here:

http://blog.ut.ee/how-to-detect-ghb-in-your-drink/

I think Brock is someone to keep an eye on in the future. For all the the talents he supposedly had as a swimmer, he seems to me to be lacking in moral fiber, backbone, character, etc. I don't think he is alone, maybe this will have an effect on some of his fellow swimmers and frat boys. Then again, maybe not. In any case, despite the questionable severity of the punishment, I keep in mind, at least he was caught!