Brooke Bennett, 12 years old Randolph VT #17

[CarpeDiem]

Making me ill to type this out, but I do not think we know how the semen got on the cloth, it may have not come in contact with AR at all. I thought the reference earlier to the semen being on her back wasnt when it was collected, I thought she said she would get it later? I could of misunderstood the time frame it was collected.

You are correct, as was the other poster, thank you! He asked for the sample on June 23rd, told her to collect it from her stomach. The encounter with it on her back was from May 28th, she hadn't been asked to get a sample yet. DNA consistent with Brooke was also on the handerchief, which I believe is the blood.

From the last document on Adnoid's link:
http://www.websleuths.com/adnoid/bennett/

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I think this case is going to quiet down for a bit now. The investigation is in full swing, but until further arrests happen...I don't think we will be hearing much from the FBI or LE.

 

[liljim]

if i lived in that community i would want to hear more about the extent of this "sex ring" very soon, my belief is that it is limited to the people we already know about but that is certainly still up in the air, once the police feel they know then i think they have an obligation to explain it to the public.

this was not a sophisticated operation so im sure the police already have a good idea whether jacques was trading or selling images/videos with anyone. they have his phone records and can look into any of his contacts, and im sure there is much more email evidence. and we can only hope that AR continues to be completely forthcoming in interviews.

 

[Schmerty_Jones]

Don't hold your breath! If AR has been deceptive 5yrs out of her 14 yrs ,it's a part of her psyche,believe m!

 

[liljim]

there are a lot of uncommon extenuating circumstances here that could suggest AR will want to be honest with authorities.

 

[Elley Mae]

Good morning, I can't understand why Brooke was such a threat and the mother was not, the mother had found the 2 of them in at least one compromising way and knew that someone had been viewing on the internet, supposedly the mother and juv2 were going to counseling according to (rauel, C) May 8 email. He went on to say that (dad) didn't deserve this,that he had provided well for the family. If true MJ was felling some heat from the mother and Brooke. Juv2 talks to ruel as she has meet.

 

[cheko1]

Dearest Becca,:blowkiss:
Thank-you.
It may very well be that A.R. needed to get Brooke back on her goodside after she was told that Breckenridge was not happy with her and she stalled Brooke from going to anyone with the knowledge. That could be the reason why the planning was in the works for a month. She probably lead Brooke to believe that she was out of the program and that it was being investigated and it was secret.

Maybe.


Love and Respect,
dark_shadows

My friend DS.........thank you for enlightening us! I had wondered when I read that in the affid if there was a meaning behind such a phrase.

:blowkiss:

 

[Elley Mae]

Good morning, I can't understand why Brooke was such a threat and the mother was not, the mother had found the 2 of them in at least one compromising way and knew that someone had been viewing on the internet, supposedly the mother and juv2 were going to counseling according to (rauel, C) May 8 email. He went on to say that (dad) didn't deserve this,that he had provided well for the family. If true MJ was felling some heat from the mother and Brooke. Juv2 talks to ruel as she has meet.

 

[Hailiejade77]

Good morning everyone. I had a question that has been bothering me all night. (I haven't been sleeping much ) Does the family of Brooke know all of the FACTS that we know by now? (everything in the affidavits, emails and so forth) I am not sure how criminal investigations go since I have never been involved in one. I just feel that if they do know everything that we know,.. HOW can they sleep and not wonder exactly what happened to poor little Brooke? I know they probably aren't sleeping and they are wracked with guilt and worry whether they knew anything or not before hand. I am having trouble sleeping and I didn't even know this beautiful little child. And it makes me sick to think about what that poor little girl had to endure!

 

[Lola]

there are a lot of uncommon extenuating circumstances here that could suggest AR will want to be honest with authorities.

It may also take her some time to come to grips with all of this and what's happened. She's been brainwashed for 5 years. Who knows what MJ has convinced her of?

 

[becca]

That is what struck me as odd yesterday in the pics from the funeral. They don't look worse for wear. I mean no dark circles around the eyes, no swollen eyes from days of crying. I know people grieve in different ways but I didn't see all that from the family yesterday or at least didn't notice it.
and as for the info that they have... they know just as much as we do if they want to. They don't have to know all the details until later . its a choice.

 

[Lola]

becca, I agree. The denial in this case is palpable - all of the adults in this case have remained ignorant of the danger of pedophiles to their children either by choice or neglect. The term wake up call is over-used but if there ever needed to be one for this town, and in fact for most people, this case should be it!

I would be very interested to know more about Ray Gagnon's history.

 

[Dante7]

That´s just it - a child at that age doesn´t know the difference between real and unreal.

I'd give a bit more credit than that, but maybe I'm wrong. I had a very strong fantasy/reality barrier from the get-go. I remember getting in to arguments with other kids in kindergarten that just because the record on the stereo says something doesn't mean it's telling you to do it- that it's just a recording and says the same thing every time. Maybe that's not a normal developmental thing.

I wish that when people become sexually active (not only with themselves) they have some brains too to take time to learn.

wouldn't that be nice? From my observations many adults don't know much either.

It is still very hard to believe that an average teenage girl would say "use me like a s***" to her boyfriend.

An average teenage girl of that age wouldn't be sexually active at all.

I don´t mind what adults do or say, we have more experience and know a thing or too about sex. If nobody in family talks with teenagers about sex, the whole issue remains a secret and that´s not good.

Agreed, but too many won't talk about it. We need to acknowledge that by educating our children in this area we're actually doing them some good.

Sorry, OT too.

OT, yes, but thank you for the comments.

 

[becca]

becca, I agree. The denial in this case is palpable - all of the adults in this case have remained ignorant of the danger of pedophiles to their children either by choice or neglect. The term wake up call is over-used but if there ever needed to be one for this town, and in fact for most people, this case should be it!

I would be very interested to know more about Ray Gagnon's history.

thank you, I struggled with posting that... no one else seemed to notice. IF they did they didn't post it.
I agree this was a wake up call for a lot of people.
When states care more about the RSO than the children there is a big problem.

 

[Dante7]

(the word "kiddie" reduces the charge to clowning-around language makes me burn to see it,to my mind. makes me very, very angry to see it.)[/QUOTE]

sorry- I've always used the term in a derogatory, contemptuous manner (if you could hear me say it, it would be pronounced with not a little bit of venom behind it), rather than in a way that implies belittling the enormity of the idea. If it bothers you, I'll switch to saying "child " from now on.

 

[Dante7]

So the saying is not that they want anyone to pi** in Brooke's mouth, it means that she said something that did not go over well at all.

Hmm...I hadn't thought of that angle, but it sounds entirely plausible. Thank you for the alternate perspective.

 

[Dante7]

Purile as it sounds, think 'watersports'.

yeah- that's the common euphanism. As I mentioned, the technical term is "urolagnia".

but i do believe D_S's interpretation in this case.

yeah- I'd only thought in terms of the literal interpretation because of what we know AR's already gone through it seemed plausible, but the more metaphorical interpretation DS provided makes perfect sense too.

 

[Dante7]

My dear ds,

Thank you so much for that info on jail house slang. I had a feeling that is what she was talking about.. I have heard very similiar expressions. "What's that **** you be talking?" So I am glad you could verify for us the true meaaning of AR's expression..what a lovely mouth that girl has...between that and the movies she has viewed with her Dad, it must be hard for in school for her to make a coherent sentence.
DD

Not necessarily. Most people have different personas for different situations, especially those who have something to hide like she did. Given that this went on for some time, she doubtless had some degree of discretion.

 

[DeltaDawn]

I wonder where little C was on the day this was taking place. Certainly not home.

I also was surprised that Cassandra , Brooke and her sister lived with Cassandra's mom. Wow..so many adults in this case just clueless.

I was glad that Denise took little C to the funeral and they let her speak. That poor little girl has lost so much, Dad, sister, step uncle, and is probably just overwehlmed with how this could be true..her world isn't what appeared to be to her either.

I think that both Cassandra and Denise have alot of hard thinking to do about they both landed in relationships with pedos.

 

[gigi2009]

Way back in one of the threads, Lonetraveler brought up something that really had me curious. Lonetraveler iirc, was saying that in the affidavits, AR states that she watched TV with Brooke, Mj asks Brooke to go upstairs and AR leaves because her boyfriend picked her up. Now I know we're missing ALOT of information, but in the emails (also included in the affidavits) AR is allegedly supposed to help MJ with Brooke. What changed? Did AR have second thoughts about helping? Did she sneak out while MJ was upstairs without him knowing and being that he was alone things went from bad to worse faster?