Brooke Bennett, 12 years old Randolph VT #19

[marly56]

I cry for Brooke and what everyone lost. I cry for AR and the innocence she lost. However, I am having a hard time forgiving AR. I think that every day that I hear more or that I see she could have changed things...I grow more towards that line of victim/perp. It is a line that is so blurred that we don't know when it is actually crossed...but this case is different...it was like a lamb led to slaughter for me. She had so many opportunities to say, "NO!"...but transcribing all the emails earlier...told me she was more than involved...she wanted this and demanded this to happen to Brooke.

i agree she had the choice to say no. but i recall that mj told her that breckenridge was mad at her..WHO KNOWS what pain she would face when she did not give total compliance. the 18 year old victim that he brutalized stated that mj told her during the rape and abduction that he had murdered a 12 year old girl . and then theres his threat of slitting a girls throat. ar must have been terrified of him on a very deep deep level and she went along to get along.

 

[marly56]

When you stop to think about what really happened here...it is devastating. Her cousin lured her into a death trap which included this sexual deviation from their uncle...both of them trusted him...while uncle talked her cousin into helping trap her with five years of abuse to control her. They killed her after brutally abusing her. How do we deal with it?! I am angry, hurt, then comes emotions I don't know about...mostly how I would like to string him up myself...but know I can't. I can't even imagine how her father must feel. The sorrow and anger that must be inside of him. I applaud him for being there now. I would be so angry...that perp might not be seeing his justice yet again. That doesn't deserve a trial...again.

i understand the reality of what you are bringing forth. this case is so tragic.

 

[Elley Mae]

I found it odd that AR apparently had to beg to be in the (summer farming program) if that is correct. As stated in the Emails. Evidently (they) were mad at her for something.

 

[Elley Mae]

I can only hope that when he is in prison that he is not in a situation like Manson (protective custody) and that he is made to suffer at the hands of other inmates. It still amazes me when you the pictures of these pedos its like the writing is on the wall. I have seen people in public that Have that look and they give me the willys.

 

[believe09]

We need to step back a little on some of the known facts here:
We do not have a COD or TOD if I haven't missed something huge. The assumption that Brookes was lured to her death by her cousin, that her uncle actually did the killing and that she was tortured sexually first is just an assumption at this point....

 

[marly56]

brookes father did time in iraq so im sure if mj did do it,the police and corrections officers will view the father with respect and ''take care'' of the situation.

 

[texas48]

But ....

Castration, my arse!
How bout a beheading?!

Beheading would be good too.That is a great thought!

 

[texas48]

Castration is ineffective because there is a world of things a pedophile can still do to harm his victim including assault with objects.

This is another thing that sounds good on the surface, but really isn't.

Chemical castration is more effective, but only if they take the medicine.

I like the Louisiana law on sex crimes. CASTRATION. And you are correct that a pedophile can continue to do great deal of harm but did I forget to mention that in Louisiana along with castration is a very long prision term. La. takes these types of crimes very seriouly.

 

[becca]

We need to step back a little on some of the known facts here:
We do not have a COD or TOD if I haven't missed something huge. The assumption that Brookes was lured to her death by her cousin, that her uncle actually did the killing and that she was tortured sexually first is just an assumption at this point....

This is true, we know very little for a fact. Brooke is dead, We don't know any details other than the Feds have the uncle on kidnapping charges. The leap was made to HE MURDERED her. WE don't know that and if the FEDS knew it they would have brought those charges by now. or They might know it and can't yet prove it.

 

[evelyn24]

This is true, we know very little for a fact. Brooke is dead, We don't know any details other than the Feds have the uncle on kidnapping charges. The leap was made to HE MURDERED her. WE don't know that and if the FEDS knew it they would have brought those charges by now. or They might know it and can't yet prove it.

We know she was a victim of homicide, that info was released to the media last week.
This is what we do here...speculate with known facts at hand, and I think it's pretty safe to speculate HE killed her.

 

[ZOOL]

I am going to come in here and say that there is a line between natural curiosity and morbid curiosity....I have no appetite for the continued presentation of details in this case that have nothing other than salaciousness to recommend them-the names of half siblings and the names and locations of other possible sexual assault victims come to mind. We have been comfortable in the past not only on these threads but on others with using initials. We have always masked or chosen to send by PM myspace pages etc...I realize that I am beating a dead horse, and I will let it go. Let's continue to theorize and toss ideas back and forth...let's go find the safe, lol. Let us channel our energy into finding a way to keep safe the remaining children who are still at the mercy of the adults involved in this monstrocity....just a thought.

I am facinated by the reports from those who are in the community regarding family dynamics, as well as the posts that give me a feel for the location and distances...so please do not stop giving us the scoop!!!

Peace to all....

Medea,

...let's go find the safe, lol.

Now that's a great idea. I say, If CG called KG at 4:30 am ET (or appx 2:30-3:00 am Antonio time [right?]), what does Mrs. KG say? Is there a Mrs.?

Wouldn't a Mrs. take note of a peculiar KG walking out early in the morning with a safe in his arms?

 

[DianeB]

There's an article in the Rutland Herald summarizing some of the recent developments (ie, the landfill search) that provides a couple of nuggets of info about what is in the federal affidavit issued after the search of Gagnon's Alabama house. Has anyone seen this particular affidavit? News stories have referred to its contents, but I haven't seen it .pdf'd anywhere yet.

Gagnon told investigators that when he heard Bennett was missing, he flew from San Antonio to Burlington by way of Cullman, Ala., where he owned a home, according to the affidavit.

While in Cullman, Gagnon told authorities, he tried to access Bennett's MySpace page from a local library. After seeing Gagnon on national news, a former co-worker of Gagnon's in Cullman tipped authorities off to the fact that Gagnon owned a home there.

Authorities did a public records search and found that Gagnon did own the home along with a woman, according to the affidavit, and that he obtained an Alabama driver's license in 2006.

Federal authorities seized computers and a disk from Gagnon's Alabama home that contained child , according to the affidavit. Gagnon admitted the computers were his, and the images were found in a file linked to the username "Ray," investigators said.

A disk? Could be any kind of disk, but what immediately occurred to me is DVD-R (a recordable DVD). It can hold twice as much information as a flash drive, looks exactly like a 'regular' DVD, and is a permanent storage device (unlike a flash drive that can be erased and reused). Like a flash drive, it's also highly portable and innocuous-looking.

http://www.rutlandherald.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080712/NEWS04/807120353/1004/NEWS03

 

[lightinthedark]

This is true, we know very little for a fact. Brooke is dead, We don't know any details other than the Feds have the uncle on kidnapping charges. The leap was made to HE MURDERED her. WE don't know that and if the FEDS knew it they would have brought those charges by now. or They might know it and can't yet prove it.

Maybe they are waiting until they find the safe/hard drive to charge anyone with the murder? LE could have been told that this safe contains evidence of whom comitted the actual murder? (Just a shot in the dark) As sloppy as MJ and RG were through this whole thing, it makes it real difficult to imagine that someone didn't leave behind evidence of the murder. There's just so much we don't know. :waitasec: JMO.

 

[ZOOL]

There's also a place in the e-mails where AR is suggesting ways they might get "the problem" (Brooke) where they want her, and she says: "I guess you could have some hot guy pick her up adn [sic] say that he is going to **** her at his house then he brings her to his house, which is really to you."

What do you make of that? "Some" guy? "say that he is going to **** her at his house"? And also, "you could have some hot guy pick her up,"

What do you make of this?

I will say this, even in a small town in Vermont, there are kids that "grow up" 'way too fast.

VTNance,

Yes. This is precisely one of my points: AR would not have someone say something about ****ing to Brooke unless Brooke had been prepared somehow (i.e. self-imposed, or programmed) prior (and mentally) for such a possibility.

 

[becca]

We know she was a victim of homicide, that info was released to the media last week.
This is what we do here...speculate with known facts at hand, and I think it's pretty safe to speculate HE killed her.

Not really MJ could have kidnapped her and handed her off to someone else... even though that isn't likely we don't know for a fact. Until someone releases more info we are left with very little in the way of fact.

 

[DianeB]

I've been wondering what it was LE found in Jacques' house that led them to search near the sugarhouse.

 

[lightinthedark]

There's an article in the Rutland Herald summarizing some of the recent developments (ie, the landfill search) that provides a couple of nuggets of info about what is in the federal affidavit issued after the search of Gagnon's Georgia house. Has anyone seen this particular affidavit? News stories have referred to its contents, but I haven't seen it .pdf'd anywhere yet.

A disk? Could be any kind of disk, but what immediately occurred to me is DVD-R (a recordable DVD). It can hold twice as much information as a flash drive, looks exactly like a 'regular' DVD, and is a permanent storage device (unlike a flash drive that can be erased and reused). Like a flash drive, it's also highly portable and innocuous-looking.

http://www.rutlandherald.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080712/NEWS04/807120353/1004/NEWS03

Wow, I haven't seen this affidavit. I only knew of one affidavit released of RG.

 

[becca]

Maybe they are waiting until they find the safe/hard drive to charge anyone with the murder? LE could have been told that this safe contains evidence of whom comitted the actual murder? (Just a shot in the dark) As sloppy as MJ and RG were through this whole thing, it makes it real difficult to imagine that someone didn't leave behind evidence of the murder. There's just so much we don't know. :waitasec: JMO.

We just don't know. They may be waiting to find the safe for other charges or maybe murder charges .... only the FBI could tell us and they are being very tight lipped.... as usual, especially in high profile cases.... those guys are very anal about the dots and crossing the t's. They want a perfect case for federal court. They don't like letting guys out because of some small over looked detail that some slick lawyer finds.

 

[SuziQ]

This is true, we know very little for a fact. Brooke is dead, We don't know any details other than the Feds have the uncle on kidnapping charges. The leap was made to HE MURDERED her. WE don't know that and if the FEDS knew it they would have brought those charges by now. or They might know it and can't yet prove it.

It is not a leap to assume that MJ murdered Brooke. The Feds are taking this to a grand jury to make sure all the i's are dotted and the t's are crossed. Murder charges will not be brought before then. And it could take 6 month or longer. The Feds will not rush and get this wrong. Heck, they aren't even done investigating! MJ is behind bars for a capital offense that could lead to the death penalty, there is no rush to charge him with murder

 

[Hailiejade77]

Maybe I live in a different world, but language and having 16 or 17 yr olds on their myspace would not make me question if they were sexually active. She was 12 yrs old!!!!

I have worked with children for more than 11years. And I have had TEN year olds talk about having sex. I know it is completely crazy! (i was playing with Barbie dolls still at 12 years old) But now a days kids grow up SOOOO quickly. I would never say a 12 year old wouldn't be having sex. I am NOT saying that Brooke did,..but not to count it completely out. And btw,.. I live in a VERY VERY small town.

RIP Brooke