Brooke Bennett, 12 yrs. old Randolph, VT #10

[missVT77]

I think these are two very different problems here. On the one hand there are all the child- freaks who love seeing that stuff.

But a much worse deviation is the willingess to KILL or torture a child to make the happen. I would hope only a very small percentage child- viewers would be okay with that.

As far as Jacques, he probably doesn't care who he rapes. It was an adult first and children now because children are easier to control but I doubt he has any special fondness for children. Probably Gagnon was more of a pedophile and appreciated the pictures Jacques but less of a sicko killer. And he helped cover up the killing/dissapearance because he was afraid his involvement with Jacques and Juvenile 1 would come out into the open.

 

[Medea]

I think these are two very different problems here. On the one hand there are all the child- freaks who love seeing that stuff.

But a much worse deviation is the willingess to KILL or torture a child to make the happen. I would hope only a very small percentage child- viewers would be okay with that.

As far as Jacques, he probably doesn't care who he rapes. It was an adult first and children now because children are easier to control but I doubt he has any special fondness for children. Probably Gagnon was more of a pedophile and appreciated the pictures Jacques but less of a sicko killer. And he helped cover up the killing/dissapearance because he was afraid his involvement with Jacques and Juvenile 1 would come out into the open.

That's what I think.

1. Child is disgusting, should be punishable by prison. The market for it fuels the organized abuse of these children for money.

2. Child increases the chances the viewer will commit his/her own crimes against children, same as viewing violent adult increases chances of acting out what they see. I do not buy the argument that viewing keeps them from acting out.

3. Most of those who view/purchase child , themselves, do not molest children in real life.

4. Abusing a child is worse than watching a child be abused on film and should be punished more severely.

 

[asher1979]

Medea- I totally agree with you. Babies are seen as cute accessories and playthings rather than the reality. They are so much work; they drain you physically, emotionally, mentally (but they are worth every single stressful moment... I feel like having my daughter is the greatest accomplishment of my life). Some people are just not cut out for it. I wish they required everyone to take a test and go to school (like for your driver's license) before you could have a child. It blows my mind that more is required of you to drive a car than to have a child.

Every once in a while, I stumble across a story and I think to myself "That person needs to be sterilized." I know that's horrible but I can't help it.

 

[TisHerself]

so then if we can't get thru to the mothers we must get thru to children that they can tell someone.... teachers, clergy, aunts, uncles, someone.... these kids feel all alone in the world. Abuse is a silent killer of children because adults look the other way, be it a parent, grandparent or teacher. if you suspect something (right or wrong) call LE.

What I think is one of the saddest thinks in this case is that at 9 yrs old AR gets a not under her pillow about initiation in to some sex club and her stepfather will be her initiator or guide or whatever.

First how did a 9 yr old ever know what that meant? How did she not think like a 9 yr old and show the note to her mother?. Had she already been molested? Sorry if I seem like I am over analizing but there are just so many things about this whole sad story that just don't make any sense.

 

[Ciara]

Yes, but how do you get a mother to admit she is married to a child rapist/murderer? Women live with these men for many reasons.... the first is always money, the second is denial.... and then the almighty love.... but somewhere inside their minds they have to grasp they choose to live with a man that abuses their child.

Women who choose to let their kids live around these types of perverts should also be charged right alongside the perverts themselves. If they want to live with a deviant then fine but NO way should they put their kids in that environment
My heart aches for Brooke....everyone around her failed to protect her and she was too darn young and innocent to protect herself.

 

[becca]

Nobody is going to like this answer, but we should stop glamorizing and airbrushing motherhood into a fairytale. Having children is NOT easy, it is not all birthday parties and scrapbooking. It is hard, very hard. It entails massive sacrifices that the weak willed, selfish, damaged are simply not able to manage. These women who let their children be abused should never have had them in the fist place, they are not emotionally capable of parenting.

You are right motherhood isn't an easy job. But if you sign on for it , you need to be up for the challenge. Maybe if we taught teenagers the real job then they would make wiser choices .

 

[dark_shadows]

Yes, but how do you get a mother to admit she is married to a child rapist/murderer? Women live with these men for many reasons.... the first is always money, the second is denial.... and then the almighty love.... but somewhere inside their minds they have to grasp they choose to live with a man that abuses their child.

M dearest Becca,:blowkiss:
Because they were never a mother to begin with.

Love and Respect,
dark_shadows

 

[MCDRAW]

Nobody is going to like this answer, but we should stop glamorizing and airbrushing motherhood into a fairytale. Having children is NOT easy, it is not all birthday parties and scrapbooking. It is hard, very hard. It entails massive sacrifices that the weak willed, selfish, damaged are simply not able to manage. These women who let their children be abused should never have had them in the fist place, they are not emotionally capable of parenting.

Raising children is not easy, mainly for me, because I want to raise happy, healty, well adjusted adults. I worry mostly if I am doing it right. I don't consider Motherhood a massive sacrifice. I'm sure it is for some...it just isn't for me.

 

[DeltaDawn]

Have we discovered who AR's real bio Dad is and where he is? I find it interesting that none of these articles I have read have mentioned him at all? Also what type of women who already has a child marries a sexual predator? He had been in prison for his rape of the 18 year old and everyone in town knew about the raping of his sister, starting when he was 11. I think that woman (AR's mother) did more then turn a blind eye. I wouldn't be surprised to find out later she enjoyed viewing some of this sick stuff, that didn't include her daughter, with him. Meaning she would know he was into kiddy , but somehow didn't acknowledge the fact he was abusing her daughter.

 

[MCDRAW]

What I think is one of the saddest thinks in this case is that at 9 yrs old AR gets a not under her pillow about initiation in to some sex club and her stepfather will be her initiator or guide or whatever.

First how did a 9 yr old ever know what that meant? How did she not think like a 9 yr old and show the note to her mother?. Had she already been molested? Sorry if I seem like I am over analizing but there are just so many things about this whole sad story that just don't make any sense.

I know my 8 and 10 year olds would not have had a clue. I haven't thought about the note she received but I think you are right...how would she have known.

 

[Dante7]

Your last point is wrong..One in three girls is sexually abused in this country... For every Brooke that we hear about, there are thousands, tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands who are abused in secret, and those cases never go to trial.

Know that. Can we make a connection between these figures and child ?

And anyone capable of "getting off" on this stuff is as guilty as if he were doing the molesting himself.

That seems to imply that you equate thought with action.

And what about the double violation to these children of having their victimization out there on tape or pictures and being traded like playing cards?

Your mistake is believing that depravity is something that can be controlled by the mind....once the mind is given over to the depravity, the body follows...and if the person is not making the himself, he is ordering it from others to match what is going on in his head....

I've posted a link to a study in one of my other responses, to show that my conclusions aren't based purely upon my own supposition. I did mention that the jury's out so far, and estimates run from 30 to 80% of those arrested for possession being actual molesters. The higher stats may be skewed a bit, tho, as they tend to come from studies of convicted molesters. Most stats I've seen put it at around 30 to 40%- still a minority.

Again- not justifying, just presenting a perspective. Thinking and doing are two different things, and no causal connection has yet been proven.

 

[MCDRAW]

Have we discovered who AR's real bio Dad is and where he is? I find it interesting that none of these articles I have read have mentioned him at all? Also what type of women who already has a child marries a sexual predator? He had been in prison for his rape of the 18 year old and everyone in town knew about the raping of his sister, starting when he was 11. I think that woman (AR's mother) did more then turn a blind eye. I wouldn't be surprised to find out later she enjoyed viewing some of this sick stuff, that didn't include her daughter, with him. Meaning she would know he was into kiddy , but somehow didn't acknowledge the fact he was abusing her daughter.

I'm thinking he convinced her that he was wrongly convicted.

 

[Medea]

It's said that these predators have an almost sixth sense in picking the most vulnerable children. My guess is that AR's IQ is not that high, and given that her mother let a known violent rapist into her life, its not a stretch to believe she has been somewhat neglected her entire life. It also appears she was born into a highly disfunctional family to begin with..the odds of two sisters both marrying men who go on to have sex with teenagers in the family must be astronomical w/out there having been some kind of abuse of the two women. AR was the perfect victim.

 

[Dante7]

Nobody is going to like this answer, but we should stop glamorizing and airbrushing motherhood into a fairytale. Having children is NOT easy, it is not all birthday parties and scrapbooking. It is hard, very hard. It entails massive sacrifices that the weak willed, selfish, damaged are simply not able to manage. These women who let their children be abused should never have had them in the fist place, they are not emotionally capable of parenting.

I've frequently thought that one should go through an exam and get a license to breed. Knowing social services, MCH and WIC employees has only reinforced that opinion on my part.

 

[Dante7]

I know my 8 and 10 year olds would not have had a clue. I haven't thought about the note she received but I think you are right...how would she have known.

That had crossed my mind as well. I haven't come up with anything plausible on it, tho. I think we need to examine this more closely.

 

[RR0004]

What I think is one of the saddest thinks in this case is that at 9 yrs old AR gets a not under her pillow about initiation in to some sex club and her stepfather will be her initiator or guide or whatever.

First how did a 9 yr old ever know what that meant? How did she not think like a 9 yr old and show the note to her mother?. Had she already been molested? Sorry if I seem like I am over analizing but there are just so many things about this whole sad story that just don't make any sense.

I'd like to see the note.

 

[MCDRAW]

It's said that these predators have an almost sixth sense in picking the most vulnerable children. My guess is that AR's IQ is not that high, and given that her mother let a known violent rapist into her life, its not a stretch to believe she has been somewhat neglected her entire life. It also appears she was born into a highly disfunctional family to begin with..the odds of two sisters both marrying men who go on to have sex with teenagers in the family must be astronomical w/out there having been some kind of abuse of the two women. AR was the perfect victim.

I believe your right about the sixth sense predators have in picking their victims.

 

[dark_shadows]

I have seen too many female offenders and female visitors but their "men" above their own child and or children.
Seeing so many females bring their child to visit their man in the facility was appalling. Here they are dressed nice, while their child is in rags. They put money in the inmates canteen account and pay an arm and a leg for collect phone calls to speak to "their man". Meanwhile, the child is going without because of the mother's choice. When the phone is disconnected because the bill is too high, they find friends and relatives to put it in their name stating that they live with them. Many used their own child's name to connect a phone in the home to talk to these men.
Many have also put drugs in the diapers of their babies so that when the child sat on the man's lap, they would remove the drugs and put it in their "safe". I am sure you know what I maen by the word "safe". If you do not know, it is a body orifice that is supposed to be exit only.

Respectfully,
dark_shadows





Respectfully,
dark_shadows

 

[Medea]

I'd like to see the note.

You think it still exists after 5 years? I kind of doubt it.

 

[calidreamin]

I have seen too many female offenders and female visitors but their "men" above their own child and or children.
Seeing so many females bring their child to visit their man in the facility was appalling. Here they are dressed nice, while their child is in rags. They put money in the inmates canteen account and pay an arm and a leg for collect phone calls to speak to "their man". Meanwhile, the child is going without because of the mother's choice. When the phone is disconnected because the bill is too high, they find friends and relatives to put it in their name stating that they live with them. Many used their own child's name to connect a phone in the home to talk to these men.
Many have also put drugs in the diapers of their babies so that when the child sat on the man's lap, they would remove the drugs and put it in their "safe". I am sure you know what I maen by the word "safe". If you do not know, it is a body orifice that is supposed to be exit only.

Respectfully,
dark_shadows





Respectfully,
dark_shadows

Hi DS and thank you for your perspective.Woman like the ones you have just described are not mothers. Never have been and never will be, their poor children.