Bruce Jenner Becoming a Woman and more...

[Kimberlyd125]

Fact is, car #2 (Lexus) and car #3 (Escalade) did the exact same thing. They both rear ended the car in front of them.

 

[michmi]

Well, he isn't smoking a cigarette in this picture, I can assure you of that, hope they drug-tested him.

 

[jjenny]

What is he holding in his left hand? Doesn't look like a cigarette to me either.

 

[jjenny]

Fact is, car #2 (Lexus) and car #3 (Escalade) did the exact same thing. They both rear ended the car in front of them.

But the driver in the car in front of Lexus is fine. And the one rear-ended by Jenner is dead. If nobody was dead this wouldn't be that big of a deal, but the Lexus driver is dead.

 

[TripleA]

So if the Lexus driver tried to avoid the Toyota by turning her wheels to the left and then Bruce hit her while turning his wheels to the right then that would have led to her being pushed into the oncoming lane. That is my non-prof opinion.

 

[jjenny]

So if the Lexus driver tried to avoid the Toyota by turning her wheels to the left and then Bruce hit her while turning his wheels to the right then that would have led to her being pushed into the oncoming lane. That is my non-prof opinion.

The wheels of the Lexus don't look to be turned to the left which you can plainly see in the photos of the accident. You can also see that Jenner's car went to the right, presumably when he tried to avoid the impact. So her car was hit on mostly on its right back end. You can see in the other photos that the damage to the Lexus was at the right rear end. Presumably that's what caused Lexus to go into incoming traffic. I don't see any damage to the front end of the Lexus at the time Jenner's SUV hit it (granted the photo doesn't show the whole car). But after it was pushed into oncoming traffic it collided with another car and there was enormous damage to the front end.

 

[Elley Mae]

Well, he isn't smoking a cigarette in this picture, I can assure you of that, hope they drug-tested him.

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That to me is a cig butt on the flick, about to be launched. jmo

 

[Elley Mae]

Jenner phone records, texts could be issue in crash probe

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-02-08-14-38-23

The moment of impact was captured by celebrity photographers who quickly posted the images on the Internet. Los Angeles County Sheriff's officials said there was no indication Jenner was being chased by paparazzi at the time of the crash.

Makes me wonder what did cause the accident, hey paparazzi did you all see anything, I mean you did take the pictures. I sure hope the accident or cause was not a set up. jmo idk

 

[FlyerFan28]

Jenner phone records, texts could be issue in crash probe

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-02-08-14-38-23

The moment of impact was captured by celebrity photographers who quickly posted the images on the Internet. Los Angeles County Sheriff's officials said there was no indication Jenner was being chased by paparazzi at the time of the crash.

Makes me wonder what did cause the accident, hey paparazzi did you all see anything, I mean you did take the pictures. I sure hope the accident or cause was not a set up. jmo idk

Jenner must've hit her pretty hard. If you look at the pic in your link, the trunk is smashed in.

 

[Elley Mae]

Bruce Jenner Not Evading Paparazzi Before Fatal Crash, Police Say

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment...aparazzi-fatal-crash-police/story?id=28809135

According to authorities, Jenner told police that paparazzi were following him right before the crash

 

[LinasK]

February 8, 2015 1:09 PM MALIBU (CBSLA.com) — The woman killed in Saturday’s four-vehicle crash involving Bruce Jenner on Pacific Coast Highway was identified Sunday morning as a Calabasas resident.
The Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department said Kim Howe, 69, was killed when her car was pushed into oncoming traffic during the chain-reaction crash on PCH, in front of a Latigo Beach campground.
The sheriff’s office confirmed the woman’s identification at midday Sunday after tabloids, quoting neighbors, had published her name. Family notifications were still taking place, according to the coroner’s office, which did not provide more than her age.
Five children and one adult were injured in the crash, authorities said.
Jenner’s Cadillac Escalade rear-ended a Lexus, driven by Howe, who had just struck another car that slowed down or stopped in front of hers several hundred feet short of the traffic signal at Corral Canyon Road for unknown reasons, authorities said. When the Lexus was pushed into oncoming traffic, it was struck head-on by a Hummer H2. more at link: http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2015...oman-killed-in-malibu-crash-involving-jenner/

 

[Kimberlyd125]

But the driver in the car in front of Lexus is fine. And the one rear-ended by Jenner is dead. If nobody was dead this wouldn't be that big of a deal, but the Lexus driver is dead.

I understand. Just pointing out they both had the same "offenses".

It could have very well ended up the other way.

That was my point.

 

[katydid23]

February 8, 2015 1:09 PM MALIBU (CBSLA.com) — The woman killed in Saturday’s four-vehicle crash involving Bruce Jenner on Pacific Coast Highway was identified Sunday morning as a Calabasas resident.
The Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department said Kim Howe, 69, was killed when her car was pushed into oncoming traffic during the chain-reaction crash on PCH, in front of a Latigo Beach campground.
The sheriff’s office confirmed the woman’s identification at midday Sunday after tabloids, quoting neighbors, had published her name. Family notifications were still taking place, according to the coroner’s office, which did not provide more than her age.
Five children and one adult were injured in the crash, authorities said.
Jenner’s Cadillac Escalade rear-ended a Lexus, driven by Howe, who had just struck another car that slowed down or stopped in front of hers several hundred feet short of the traffic signal at Corral Canyon Road for unknown reasons, authorities said. When the Lexus was pushed into oncoming traffic, it was struck head-on by a Hummer H2. more at link: http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2015...oman-killed-in-malibu-crash-involving-jenner/

So the 1st car stopped way short, for unknown reasons, and was hit by the Lexus. Then Jenner hit the Lexus. Too bad that he went to the right in avoidance, because it sent the Lexus into oncoming traffic. It was an accident, but he must feel horrible. My prayers go out to the victims family.

 

[LinasK]

So the 1st car stopped way short, for unknown reasons, and was hit by the Lexus. Then Jenner hit the Lexus. Too bad that he went to the right in avoidance, because it sent the Lexus into oncoming traffic. It was an accident, but he must feel horrible. My prayers go out to the victims family.

I know, I was beginning to wonder if the 69-year-old had stopped because she had had a medical emergency like a heart attack. So sad, so tragic. Wonder now, if they will still file manslaughter charges because it was a chain-reaction collision. Anybody know? I'm sure this isn't the kind of publicity Bruce was envisioning, and I don't believe the Paparrazi were responsible and chasing him. They just happened to be in the area, and you are totally right about how dangerous of a road PCH is even when it's dry out. I grew up in LA.

 

[jjenny]

I know, I was beginning to wonder if the 69-year-old had stopped because she had had a medical emergency like a heart attack. So sad, so tragic. Wonder now, if they will still file manslaughter charges because it was a chain-reaction collision. Anybody know? I'm sure this isn't the kind of publicity Bruce was envisioning, and I don't believe the Paparrazi were responsible and chasing him. They just happened to be in the area, and you are totally right about how dangerous of a road PCH is even when it's dry out. I grew up in LA.

The woman who died wasn't in a first car. She was in a second car. It appears that the first car stopped for whatever reason, the second car bumped into it, the Mr. Jenner's car rear-ended the second car and sent it into oncoming traffic.

 

[Sonya610]

It would be interesting to know WHY the first car stopped short. If their was not a valid reason could that driver be held partly responsible?

 

[DexterMorgan]

It would be interesting to know WHY the first car stopped short. If their was not a valid reason could that driver be held partly responsible?

I think it was attempting an illegal u turn. This happens alot.

 

[LinasK]

It would be interesting to know WHY the first car stopped short. If their was not a valid reason could that driver be held partly responsible?

Yeah, because it's an open highway without stop signals/signs IIRC, so you don't just stop, extremely dangerous. I was in a situation like that once in Mexico, they drive insane down there!

 

[TripleA]

Yeah, because it's an open highway without stop signals/signs IIRC, so you don't just stop, extremely dangerous. I was in a situation like that once in Mexico, they drive insane down there!

I was thinking that the 1st car has to have some liability. What is the speed limit at that location?

 

[Kimberlyd125]

The woman who died wasn't in a first car. She was in a second car. It appears that the first car stopped for whatever reason, the second car bumped into it, the Mr. Jenner's car rear-ended the second car and sent it into oncoming traffic.

Bumped into it?
She rear ended it.
Then Bruce rear ended her.