BTK vs Jonbenet's killer

[Holdontoyourhat]

There is no doubt, given the nature of the ransom note, that the killer was a student of crimes, both real , in books , and on the screen. This part of the profile has never fit Patsy, no one has ever identified her as ,knowing about "police tactics and countermeasures",or, having used phrases from ultra-violent crime materials. I suggested a while back that we should visit the archives of the serial killer reading room, to get an idea of how the minds of not only serials, but the wannabes work. The idea was nixed and the link erased. This crime was committed by a dark mind, not by a middle aged mommy. JMO

YGTR (you got that right)

 

[Becba]

I'm sure someone will blow in here and throw this line of thinking out the window, but for now, I can see many similarities.

Interesting how Rader explains about the difficulty in strangling someone to death--how that person appears dead and then "comes back". Makes me wonder if JB were strangled, "came back", frustrated perp so much that he hit her to kill her. That would also line up with Dr. Spitz' statement about her still being alive while hit on the head; possibly she was strangled, still alive, and clubbed.

lol, I am not attempting to blow it ot the window. I did want to say Rader left sperm all over the place and seemed to move onto killing women not little girls.

BUT, I did notice also at the similarities. The tying up seems like some kind of fetish like Rader had. Doubt if that is real common to have that kind of murder seen.
Also Rader could have updated his m.o. to use a stun gun. We know he liked to lay in wait. So that fits also.
I'd like to know where he was during the murder.

 

[luvbeaches]

BTK didn't do this crime no matter how convenient it would be.

I'm surprised the R's haven't tried to point the finger at BTK.

 

[Charlie]

Considering the speculative amount of murders BTK has been linked to dont u think they would have run his DNA through CODIS to see what might turn up? Therefore no link would have been made to JBRs DNA...most RDI theorists know the poor vailidity of JBRs DNA samples anyways...but just a thought.

As Dr. Lee stated this isnt a DNA case.

 

[sissi]

That is an interesting question, surely they had his dna from crimescenes, however, they didn't obtain a sample from him during the days planning his arrest. How does this work? Would they be putting his "in" now, or would it have been "in" as an "unknown perp" .

 

[Zman]

While I applaud the attempt to find the killer and the some of the obvious similarities presented, alas BTK just doesn't fit. He's to fond of bragging about his crimes and while he likes his little hints and letters none of his crimes ever came close to the personal assualt that the JBR murder was. Besides I would think that someone else in the house if not everyone would have been killed.

He sure wasn't in the habit of feeding pineapple to his victims.

 

[Nehemiah]

He sure wasn't in the habit of feeding pineapple to his victims.

The pineapple is one of the reasons that the intruder theory is so unbelievable for many people.

 

[UKGuy]

The pineapple is one of the reasons that the intruder theory is so unbelievable for many people.

Not to mention her pony tails, hair styling, body scrub, and fashion makeover including her barbie nightgown and oversized underwear.

What a thoughtful intruder that would be!

 

[sissi]

No BTK didn't feed anyone pineapple, but he did stop torturing a victim long enough to get her a glass of water and give her children toys to play with while they were locked in a bathroom. A similar kind of guy...maybe? BTK stalked his victims, I have always believed Jonbenet's killer fantasized and stalked her for a time before the murder. If a similar kind of guy we can forget about bringing him to justice anytime "soon".

 

[luvbeaches]

Not to mention her pony tails, hair styling, body scrub, and fashion makeover including her barbie nightgown and oversized underwear.

What a thoughtful intruder that would be!

No kidding!

 

[sissi]

Not to mention her pony tails, hair styling, body scrub, and fashion makeover including her barbie nightgown and oversized underwear.

What a thoughtful intruder that would be!

Weren't her panties urine stained to match the stains in her longjohns?
I would have to see a pic of her at the White's to comment on the pony tails.
Fashion makeover?

 

[Zman]

Not to mention her pony tails, hair styling, body scrub, and fashion makeover including her barbie nightgown and oversized underwear.

What a thoughtful intruder that would be!

Well that may suggest it's not BTK but I dont see how any of this goes along with RDI.

We don't know what her hair looked like when she went to bed or maybe this nutbag just put her hair the way he/she liked it. A killer wiping down a body is not odd even for a stranger. Fashion Makeover? See nutbag comment. The oversized underwear could have been on all night.

This person was trying to implement that JBR was being molested by JR. I don't think a R covering up this crime would do that.

 

[sissi]

I really can't imagine that BTK wandered into Boulder at Christmastime, however, none of the info we are stating dismisses him. He took a victim out of her house, to do just what we are saying couldn't have been done ,he took her to a church, covered the windows in black plastic, dressed ,posed and photographed her before disposing of her body. He took some of her clothing, as well, to use as a "personal" costume for photographing himself.

 

[Nehemiah]

Well that may suggest it's not BTK but I dont see how any of this goes along with RDI.

We don't know what her hair looked like when she went to bed or maybe this nutbag just put her hair the way he/she liked it. A killer wiping down a body is not odd even for a stranger. Fashion Makeover? See nutbag comment. The oversized underwear could have been on all night.

This person was trying to implement that JBR was being molested by JR. I don't think a R covering up this crime would do that.

I think a lot of people have a difficult time imagining that an intruder came into the house and did all this stuff...while the Ramseys were there. It had to have taken quite a long time to have felt so comfortable in a house on Christmas Night. He was down in the basement, and even took the time in that windowless room, where there was only one door, and if anyone at all had come down there, he would have been hemmed inside with no way of escape. That's why so many think the RDI theory is so believable.

 

[sissi]

He (intruder) would likely have killed any Ramsey, perhaps the entire family if they got in the way of his "taking" Jonbenet. Much like the cases of Josephine for BTK, and the little girl for Duncan, no one could have stopped the killer . While they feel guilt for not waking to save her, they may have saved their son and themselves by sleeping through this abduction/murder.

 

[Zman]

I think a lot of people have a difficult time imagining that an intruder came into the house and did all this stuff...while the Ramseys were there. It had to have taken quite a long time to have felt so comfortable in a house on Christmas Night. He was down in the basement, and even took the time in that windowless room, where there was only one door, and if anyone at all had come down there, he would have been hemmed inside with no way of escape. That's why so many think the RDI theory is so believable.

Not if the intruder was already fimiliar with the home. Intruder does not have to mean stranger.

The room is only where she was found. It does not mean thats where all the events took place.

And I could say that "all this stuff" is the reason the RDI theory is so unbelievable.