Buffy Sainte-Marie speaks out regarding questions of Cree ancestry, Oct 2023

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By Tom Fennario
Oct 26, 2023
''In anticipation of the documentary, Sainte-Marie posted a written and video statement online.

“For 60 years I’ve been sharing my story as I know it,” says Sainte-Marie in a video statement. “I count myself lucky to have two families, my growing up family, who are wonderful, and my Piapot family, who are also wonderful. But there are also many things I don’t know.”

That’s not new. In a 2018 authorized biography, Sainte-Marie is quoted as saying “… we never have known.”

In her statement, the singer-songwriter says she is traumatized by the questions about her Indigenous ancestry.

“To relive those times, and revisit questions I made peace with decades ago, has been beyond traumatic,” she wrote. “What I know about my Indigenous ancestry I learned from my growing up mother [Winifred Sainte-Marie], who was part Mi’kmaq, and my own research later in life. My mother told me many things, including that I was adopted and that I was Native, but there was no documentation as was common for Indigenous children born in the 1940s.”

Her online bio says, “Buffy Sainte-Marie is believed to have been born in 1941 on the Piapot First Nation reserve in Saskatchewan and taken from her biological parents when she was an infant.” She was then “adopted by a visibly white couple and raised in Maine and Massachusetts.”

In her statement to the media, Sainte-Marie adds: “Later in my life, as an adult, she [Winifred Sainte-Marie] told me some things I have never shared out of respect for her that I hate sharing now, that I may have been born on ‘the wrong side of the blanket.’ This was her story to tell, not mine.”
 
Whatever turns out to be true, her music became a big part of my life when I came across it in the 60s.

I don't really care if it turned out she was from Mars.

For me her ancestry never played a part in my loving her music.

No one is questioning that she was a hugely entertaining singer/songwriter.

She had talent in spades.

Its all the inconsistencies over the decades and this seemingly thorough investigation that needs to be sorted.

She has many, many awards for being the FIRST Native person to do 1, 2, 3 etc.

She has the Order of Canada, University awards/positions etc that May need to be revisited.
 
If she has received any awards or positions she's not entitled to, yes of course that needs to be looked into.

I drifted away from her music quite awhile back, though I still love the earlier stuff.

I've become a person who doesn't feel the need to know everything about an artist I like.

Or feel like I have them on a pedestal.
I like to let the music speak for itself.

Yes I think a DNA test would answer all the questions.
If it was me I would have to know for sure, even if it might not be the answer I'd like.
 
No one is questioning that she was a hugely entertaining singer/songwriter.

She had talent in spades.

Its all the inconsistencies over the decades and this seemingly thorough investigation that needs to be sorted.

She has many, many awards for being the FIRST Native person to do 1, 2, 3 etc.

She has the Order of Canada, University awards/positions etc that May need to be revisited.

From the media I've seen -- this artist was told throughout her childhood of her First Nation/Native heritage.

If that is the case, to me the situation is very, very different from a Rachel Dolezal' choice to present as a Black person:


IDK, and of course jmho

Waiting to see how this plays out....

jmho ymmv lrr
 
From the media I've seen -- this artist was told throughout her childhood of her First Nation/Native heritage.

If that is the case, to me the situation is very, very different from a Rachel Dolezal' choice to present as a Black person:


IDK, and of course jmho

Waiting to see how this plays out....

jmho ymmv lrr

Except that on her marriage certificate, where she had to give vital statistics she said she was born in Mass., nothing about Canada…plus all the other vital stats stuff was ‘born to’ etc.

The other thing is that she has claimed to be from at least three bands….Sask., Ontario and East Coast. Not remotely possible.

I think the CBC did a very credible search before going to air. IMO

Yes, waiting to see how this plays out…..
 
She has the Order of Canada, University awards/positions etc that May need to be revisited.
I'm not so sure, she adopted many causes in her songs, her biggest hits Universal Soldier, etc, I would say she was more a peace and human rights activist who raised issues of native persons. This qualifies her for all her awards, IMO.

Not sure how she became a Canadian citizen, I presume through ordinary means, so - as usual - Canada is eager to claim credit for her success, altho it was her own talent, not because of grants from the Canada Council for Indigenous Artists, etc, which have only happened the past 20 years or so.

JMO
 
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Way back when they say she first starting claiming Native, First Nations ancestry, it wasn't exactly the done thing.
So I don't believe that expecting to have it advance your career would have been a reason.

In fact back then I think most artists wanting to hit the "big time" would have been advised to cover it up.
 
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Who is questioning? Documentary film-makers and/or indigenous community? Who are the film-makers and where does the questioning come from?
IMO, the questioning is coming from some Indigenous people who want to stop white people from pretending to be indigenous.

CBC has worked on these exposes before, and they all start with allegations/tips from indigenous identity researchers. IMO, no way would CBC dare do this on their own, it would be yet more patronizing by white people.

"Late last year, CBC received a tip that Sainte-Marie is not of Cree ancestry but, in fact, has European roots. She is the latest high-profile public figure whose ancestry story has been contradicted... the latest chapter in the complex and growing debate around Indigenous identity in Canada.

"Indigenous scholars like Kim TallBear, a professor of Native studies at the University of Alberta in Edmonton and a member of Sisseton-Wahpeton Oyate, say it’s unacceptable for non-Indigenous people to speak for Indigenous people and take honours set aside for them.

“It’s theft of opportunities, resources. It’s theft of our stories,” she said.

I agreed with previous cases, but in this one the widespread publicity seems mean. IMO, her career predates this current preoccupation with purity of indigenous heritage (an idea that was then untouchable because of what Germany did with it).

JMO
 
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IMO, the questioning is coming from some Indigenous people who want to stop white people from pretending to be indigenous.

CBC has worked on these exposes before, and they all start with allegations/tips from indigenous identity researchers. IMO, no way would CBC dare do this on their own, it would be yet more patronizing by white people.

"Late last year, CBC received a tip that Sainte-Marie is not of Cree ancestry but, in fact, has European roots. She is the latest high-profile public figure whose ancestry story has been contradicted... the latest chapter in the complex and growing debate around Indigenous identity in Canada.

"Indigenous scholars like Kim TallBear, a professor of Native studies at the University of Alberta in Edmonton and a member of Sisseton-Wahpeton Oyate, say it’s unacceptable for non-Indigenous people to speak for Indigenous people and take honours set aside for them.

“It’s theft of opportunities, resources. It’s theft of our stories,” she said.

I agreed with previous cases, but in this one the widespread publicity seems mean. IMO, her career predates this current preoccupation with purity of indigenous heritage (an idea that was then untouchable because of what Germany did with it).

JMO
Is that confirmed where the questioning is coming from or speculation? Sorry, I can't tell from this post.

jmo
 
I just watched the 5th Estate investigation into Buffy Sainte Marie. She was born in Massachusetts to English and Italian parents. She is not Canadian. She is not Indigenous. By claiming to be Indigenous and Canadian, she received special funding and privilege reserved for Indigenous people. She cheated Indigenous people out of opportunity intended to support and promote Indigenous people of Canada.

She is not a nice person. When her older brother tried to tell people that she is neither Canadian nor Indigenous, she threatened to publicly accuse him of being a sex offender.

Over the last few years, Indigenous people of Canada have investigated several prominent people who, in part, achieved success by pretending to be Indigenous. It is a widespread problem where non-Indigenous people exploited Indigenous people for personal profit and gain.

5th Estate: Buffy Sainte Marie
 
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