Burke and the Nintendo

[Nehemiah]

For the BPD to let that out publicly and then not back it up after all this time - is disgusting (criminy!). I don't care who's guilty. If it's out of the bag, then it must go public. Prove me wrong. Send me an official recording on which I can hear Burke's voice and I'll eat my hat. It just isn't there. Why do people believe it?

The case has been out the BPD's hands for some time now. They did back it up, with their own findings from experts.

 

[Zman]

The case has been out the BPD's hands for some time now. They did back it up, with their own findings from experts.

The BPD's experts?

I feel better now.

 

[Maikai]

The case has been out the BPD's hands for some time now. They did back it up, with their own findings from experts.

from the lab ever made public?

It appears to me the phone was hung up after the call. It was a wall phone--the receiver either had to be hung up, or it would have fallen to the floor with a clunk. One theory on any background noises on the tape after the call was the tapes are re-used-----so it could have been chatter from previous calls. Burke's voice is like the pineapple--no reason for the Ramsey's to lie about it. I think both were used to try to catch the Ramseys at lying--get one of them to change their stories.....or a another desperate attempt by BPD to add another idiotic link of circumstantial evidence. Burke being up woudn't have made any difference in guilt or innocence.

 

[Nehemiah]

It's no different than medical malpractice cases or other criminal cases. Both sides drag up their paid experts to refute each other. .

Exactly. There were experts on both sides of the fence.

 

[Nehemiah]

It appears to me the phone was hung up after the call. It was a wall phone--the receiver either had to be hung up, or it would have fallen to the floor with a clunk.

One reason (unscientific) that I believe that there were Ramsey voices at the end of the 911 call is the fact that Patsy talks about placing the phone back into its cradle in DOI. There was absolutely no reason for her to even say that and I believe that she was subtly refuting the 911 voices by stating such. Of course, she doesn't mention the accusations about the voices, but the suggestion of placing the phone back into its cradle answers that question w/out it even being asked.

In fact, that is why I think DOI was even written--to refute accusations that the Rs knew would be unleased in the public arena.

 

[IrishMist]

Exactly. There were experts on both sides of the fence.

Sigh.

As with so many other things in this case...

 

[BigTexas]

I must resurrect this thread. I have been thinking a lot about that Nintendo 64 and Burke.
Did John lie about Burke playing with the model and not the Nintendo 64 because he did not want anyone to find out what GAME Burke was playing?
Does anyone know if Burke played Killer Instinct? I did some research and the game is bloody, violent, and, at times, a male fighter takes on a female fighter. Also, at the end of the fight, depending on how well your performance was, a voice would say things like Ultra VICTORY or Supreme VICTORY. Did the game potentially inspire violence in Burke at age 9 with blood and violence against females?
Researching, the game released on Nov. 25, 1996 and would sell 3.2 million copies, making it a hot game to own.

 

[Reporter-C.Lin]

Nehemiah,

The pineapple and tea glass on the breakfast room table suggests that Burke and JonBenet had snuck downstairs in the middle of the night while the parents slept. And it also suggests they were waiting for someone else to secretly show up. Were they waiting for a friend (or friends) to show up and play Nintendo? If Burke had the only Nintendo in the neighborhood, and he was leaving for out of town in the morning, perhaps the kids had arranged a clandestine late-night Nintendo party that degenerated into something sinister.

BlueCrab

I don't know why the pineapple and the glass meant they had to sneak downstairs, that the adults were unaware, and they they were waiting for another kid or kids to show up to play the video game.
For a kid who already had to be sneaky about coming downstairs, somehow didn't think it would be risky to have a video game party of kids whose parents probably had to drive them to their house and entered through the door and played video games and then called their parents to come pick them up and then drive away?

By the way, Nintendo doesn't need to be built. I don't know why John said he built/assembled Nintendo with Burke. It's not LEGO.

 

[CloudedTruth]

I don't know why the pineapple and the glass meant they had to sneak downstairs, that the adults were unaware, and they they were waiting for another kid or kids to show up to play the video game.
For a kid who already had to be sneaky about coming downstairs, somehow didn't think it would be risky to have a video game party of kids whose parents probably had to drive them to their house and entered through the door and played video games and then called their parents to come pick them up and then drive away?

By the way, Nintendo doesn't need to be built. I don't know why John said he built/assembled Nintendo with Burke. It's not LEGO.

Yeah, none of that scenario really makes any sense. A bunch of kids gathering would have been seen by neighbors and they would be making noise.

The Nintendo console was up in Burke's room. Burke admitted during the Dr. Phil interview that he did go back downstairs after he thought everyone was in bed. He said there was a toy he wanted to put together, so that's different than the Ninendo console.

According to John in later interviews he says the toy that he supposedly helped Burke with before going to bed was a kind of a car garage thing with a ramp. I don't recall exactly how he described it, but it definitely was not the Nintendo.

I think however it's also important to note what John first told police when they arrived on the scene the morning go the 26th. He said that when they got home he read to JonBenet (some sources say Burke too) before she went to sleep. He told this story to at least two separate LE personnel. He made no mention of helping Burke put together a toy. It was only later after lawyering up that the story changed to JonBenet being "zonked" when they got home and him having to carry her upstairs. The first story he told is likely closer to the truth. They were all awake, Patsy may have been packing and perhaps Burke made the pineapple snack. During the 4 months that they refused to speak with police they likely realized that a timeline with everyone awake didn't work so well with the intruder theory and TOD. So the story changed.