Found Alive Burkina Faso (Africa) - Edith Blais, 34 & Luca Tacchetto, 30, Canada & Italy tourists, 15 Dec 2018
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Canadian news suggests that a kidnapping may have taken place....
Trudeau says woman missing in Burkina Faso is still alive ‘as far as we know’ | The Star
"SHERBROOKE, QUE.—Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said Friday all indications are that a Canadian woman who has been missing in Burkina Faso for more than a month is still alive."
Global Affairs acknowledges Quebecer may have been kidnapped | The Star
"Global Affairs Canada says consular officials are reaching out to local authorities in Burkina Faso, but it won’t publish any information that could jeopardize ongoing efforts or endanger citizens’ safety.
A report published by the CBC’s French-language service on Sunday says the department has not received confirmation of an abduction, but it no longer excludes that as a possibility."
Canada treating disappearance of Quebec woman in Burkina Faso as kidnapping | CBC News
"The disappearance of a Quebec woman in Burkina Faso is being treated as a kidnapping, Canadian officials said Sunday."
"The office of International Development Minister Marie-Claude Bibeau told Radio-Canada that despite not having any confirmation, they are approaching the case as they would a kidnapping. Her office declined further comment."
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FYI Edith Blais is from Québec, the French-speaking part of Canada, and this report from January 6 is in French.
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Correct, those statements are ambiguous and do not really mean anything but they may give a sliver of hope to the families of those who have gone missing, hope seems to be all there is at the moment, imo, speculation.
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That's what I said too. I don't think they know, they assume.
They won't know unless they find out, now do they?
Using the protocol for kidnapping means that Luca and Edith are endangered missing, as opposed to an earlier assumption namely that they had disappeared without a crime or the involvement of others. That protocol has been discarded, and their disappearance has been upgraded in severity. Specialized Services are being involved in the search and both coutries confer at the highest level.
Since december 15, Luca and Edith have stopped contacting their families, stopped using social media. There has been no movement in their bank accounts and they did not arrive at their destiny around the planned time. All this is out of character for both of them. Their car is nowhere to be found.
Last time their friends and family heard from them, they were in a country with political instability, where Westerners get kidnapped for ransom, or get kidnapped, robbed and murdered or disappear forever.
The least both home countries can do is investigate this option because, unfortunately, it isn't that farfetched. ("They went swimming in a pool full of crococdiles ant they haven't been seen since." "What could possibly have happened?" "A complete MYSTERY!")
Among all the variations there are in kidnappings, kidnapping for ransom sadly is one of the more positive ones.
Canada's current official travel advice for Burkina Faso, where the state of emergency was declared in several regions one week after Luca and Edith were reported missing:
Risk level(s)
Burkina Faso - AVOID NON-ESSENTIAL TRAVEL
Avoid non-essential travel to Burkina Faso due to the threat of terrorism.
Northern area and the border with Mali - Avoid all travel
Avoid all travel to the area north of the Tougan–Ouahigouya–Djibo–Dori line—up to the Mali and Niger borders—and within 80 km of the rest of the Burkina Faso–Mali border, due to the threat of banditry and kidnapping.
Safety and security situation
Border with Niger - Avoid all travel
Avoid all travel to the following areas due to the threat of terrorism:
- within 40 km of the border with Niger
- within 40 km of the province of Komondjari
- within 40 km of the province of Gourma
- within 40 km of the province of Kompienga
- within 40 km of the province of Tapoa
Borders with Benin and Togo - Avoid all travel
Avoid all travel to 40 km within borders of Benin and Togo due to the threat of banditry and terrorism.
Safety and security situation
W National Park - Avoid all travel
Avoid all travel to the W National Park due to the regional threat of terrorism.
Safety and security situation
Sequestri, attentati e attacchi jihadisti: si dimette l'intero governo del Burkina Faso - Africa Express: notizie dal continente dimenticato
Kidnappings, attacks and jihadist assaults: the entire government of Burkina Faso resigns
Burkina Faso is increasingly at the centre of the world news. Violence, attacks by jihadists, kidnappings are multiplying and finally last night the Prime Minister, Paul Kaba Thiéba, resigned, along with the entire government, without giving any explanation. Roch Marc Christian Kaboré, president of the former French colony, accepted the government's decision without batting an eyelid. The prime minister had been in office since January 2016.
Kirk Woodman, a Canadian geologist, was kidnapped by an armed group on the evening of 15 January at the Tiabangou mining site near the Niger border. The fifty-year-old, vice-president of the company Progress Minerals, had arrived in Burkina Faso a few days before his kidnapping. He was responsible for the Bourkinabe and Ivorian mines. His body was found on Thursday by locals about sixty kilometers from Gorom-Gorom.
During the assault on the mine, about ten armed men gathered the miners, including Woodman, then robbed the entire base camp; in addition to the geologist, they also took away material. This was announced by Clément Sawadogo, Minister of Security of Ouagadougou, a couple of days ago.
So far, the murder of the geologist has not been claimed by any of the groups active in the Sahel.
There is no more news of our compatriot, the thirty-year-old architect Luca Tacchetto, originally from Vigonza, in the Veneto region, who disappeared with his Canadian partner, aged thirty-four. The couple have not been in contact with their families since 15 December. The family reported that they planned to meet with friends in Ouagadougou, the capital of Burkina. According to reports leaked in recent days, the investigators are now following the trail of kidnapping for terrorist purposes.
The Prime Minister of Canada, Justin Trudeau, announced only yesterday that, according to reports, Ms Blais is alive. This statement has raised new hopes among Canadians, and consequently also here in Italy, on the fate of the couple of young people, even if Trudeau has not gone into detail. But he certainly needs to know more than he has made public, given that a few days before Christmas he went to Mali to greet his soldiers, deployed in the UN Mission (Minusma).
Together with Ottawa's Defence Minister, Harjit Sajjan, and Chief of Staff, Jonathan Vance, the Prime Minister flew to Gao, to Castor Base Camp. Two hundred and fifty Canadian blue helmets have been in the Sahel country since 31 July. They have replaced their German colleagues and will stay in Mali for a year as part of Operation Presence, which deals with air emergency medical evacuation of UN troops, as well as logistical support and transport of troops and equipment. During his visit, Trudeau also met his Malian counterpart, Soumeylou Boubèye Maïga.
Also in Burkina Faso, an Indian citizen was kidnapped along with a South African. And the elderly Australian doctor, Kenneth Elliot, who was kidnapped with his wife Jocelyn in January 2016, is still in the hands of his torturers. His wife was released a month later, at the time of the terrorist attack in Bamako, the capital of Mali. The couple who had been living in Djibo, in northern Burkina Faso, on the border with Mali, since 1972, where they had operated a 120-bed hospital over the past 40 years. They were the doctors of the poor and much loved and respected by the local population.
The situation in the former French colony is increasingly precarious and for this reason, on 31 December, the government of Burkina Faso declared a state of emergency in several provinces of the country due to frequent attacks by jihadists. Initially, terrorist incursions were mostly concentrated on the border with Niger and Mali, but now they have spread to other regions, particularly in the east, in the areas bordering Togo and Benin.
BBM
Kidnappings, attacks and jihadist assaults: the entire government of Burkina Faso resigns
Burkina Faso is increasingly at the centre of the world news. Violence, attacks by jihadists, kidnappings are multiplying and finally last night the Prime Minister, Paul Kaba Thiéba, resigned, along with the entire government, without giving any explanation. Roch Marc Christian Kaboré, president of the former French colony, accepted the government's decision without batting an eyelid. The prime minister had been in office since January 2016.
Kirk Woodman, a Canadian geologist, was kidnapped by an armed group on the evening of 15 January at the Tiabangou mining site near the Niger border. The fifty-year-old, vice-president of the company Progress Minerals, had arrived in Burkina Faso a few days before his kidnapping. He was responsible for the Bourkinabe and Ivorian mines. His body was found on Thursday by locals about sixty kilometers from Gorom-Gorom.
During the assault on the mine, about ten armed men gathered the miners, including Woodman, then robbed the entire base camp; in addition to the geologist, they also took away material. This was announced by Clément Sawadogo, Minister of Security of Ouagadougou, a couple of days ago.
So far, the murder of the geologist has not been claimed by any of the groups active in the Sahel.
There is no more news of our compatriot, the thirty-year-old architect Luca Tacchetto, originally from Vigonza, in the Veneto region, who disappeared with his Canadian partner, aged thirty-four. The couple have not been in contact with their families since 15 December. The family reported that they planned to meet with friends in Ouagadougou, the capital of Burkina. According to reports leaked in recent days, the investigators are now following the trail of kidnapping for terrorist purposes.
The Prime Minister of Canada, Justin Trudeau, announced only yesterday that, according to reports, Ms Blais is alive. This statement has raised new hopes among Canadians, and consequently also here in Italy, on the fate of the couple of young people, even if Trudeau has not gone into detail. But he certainly needs to know more than he has made public, given that a few days before Christmas he went to Mali to greet his soldiers, deployed in the UN Mission (Minusma).
Together with Ottawa's Defence Minister, Harjit Sajjan, and Chief of Staff, Jonathan Vance, the Prime Minister flew to Gao, to Castor Base Camp. Two hundred and fifty Canadian blue helmets have been in the Sahel country since 31 July. They have replaced their German colleagues and will stay in Mali for a year as part of Operation Presence, which deals with air emergency medical evacuation of UN troops, as well as logistical support and transport of troops and equipment. During his visit, Trudeau also met his Malian counterpart, Soumeylou Boubèye Maïga.
Also in Burkina Faso, an Indian citizen was kidnapped along with a South African. And the elderly Australian doctor, Kenneth Elliot, who was kidnapped with his wife Jocelyn in January 2016, is still in the hands of his torturers. His wife was released a month later, at the time of the terrorist attack in Bamako, the capital of Mali. The couple who had been living in Djibo, in northern Burkina Faso, on the border with Mali, since 1972, where they had operated a 120-bed hospital over the past 40 years. They were the doctors of the poor and much loved and respected by the local population.
The situation in the former French colony is increasingly precarious and for this reason, on 31 December, the government of Burkina Faso declared a state of emergency in several provinces of the country due to frequent attacks by jihadists. Initially, terrorist incursions were mostly concentrated on the border with Niger and Mali, but now they have spread to other regions, particularly in the east, in the areas bordering Togo and Benin.
BBM
So, do they even KNOW who’s responsible for Luca and Edith’s disappearance? Do they have any definitive proof that they’re even alive? I know they have theories. I was wondering if I missed something showing PROOF that they are alive. I hate things like this. jmo
Officially:
They don't know who is responsible for Luca and Edith's disappearance.
There is no definite proof that they are alive.
Last confirmed sighting is in Bobo Dioulasso.
"To the best of my knowledge, she is alive," said Justin Trudeau. I have not been told anything else that we believe she is alive. "
BURKINA FASO (Africa) - Edith Blais, 34 & Luca Tacchetto, 30, Canada & Italy tourists, 15 Dec 2018
Luca's mother let off steam with her closest friends: "I pray for them to come home. For the rest, I don't understand what's going on. The statement by Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau didn't seem so clear to me: rather than being certain that Edith was alive, it seemed to mean that no information has come from Burkina Faso that would suggest the opposite. There is a certain difference..."
BURKINA FASO (Africa) - Edith Blais, 34 & Luca Tacchetto, 30, Canada & Italy tourists, 15 Dec 2018
IMHO if they are lucky, they have indeed been kidnapped by a group who wants to exchange them for ransom within weeks or months, not years. But these groups play it by their own rules. If they don't want to tell, they don't tell. And we may never know what happened to them.
Making people disappear and leave those left behind guessing about their fate is part of terrorist tactics.
Meanwhile, I have been looking at the map again. I was under the impression that they were heading to a project in the North of Togo, near the border with Burkina Faso. The project is in Kpalime, in the South of Togo, only 120 kms from the ocean and the airport near Lomé. It makes you want to weep.
Sul rapimento di Silvia Romano bocche cucite mentre le ricerche annaspano - Africa Express: notizie dal continente dimenticato
More than two months have passed since the kidnapping of the Milanese aid worker Silvia Romano, and the triumphant statements of the Kenyan police, issued the day after the event, have proved to be what they were: coarse and reckless boutade, not supported by any objective relief. Today, the unfortunate affair of which our young compatriot has been the victim, remains shrouded in a leaden and anguished mystery. The massive arrests made, which seemed to include one of the alleged kidnappers, have produced a macroscopic nothing. The media keep quiet, the Farnesina keep quiet and the local authorities keep quiet or ramble. A disturbing silence full of questions.
Meanwhile, last Thursday, the Kenyan police arrested 24-year-old Milanese Gian Marco Duina, also a volunteer, while he was wandering around Ngao together with his friend Jessica Todaro. Ngao is a village in the Tana River, considered a high-risk area and subject to curfew. The two young people were in possession of simple tourist visas that did not allow them to carry out other activities than the ones purely holiday. The two were released the next day and it is hoped that they will benefit from this unpleasant experience.
Last month, in the dangerous Burkina Faso, Luca Tacchetto from Padua and his Canadian friend Edith Blais of 30 and 34 years respectively, disappeared - they were probably kidnapped. They also worked on behalf of a non-profit organization active in Togo, a country that the two young people wanted to reach with their car that, leaving from Padua, had crossed France, Spain, Morocco, Mauritania and Mali to reach Burkina Faso, from which, after a short stop, they would depart for the final destination.
It is impossible not to notice a certain ease in facing volunteer experiences in countries that are poor, politically unstable and subject to continuous tribal clashes. More than thirty people (we speak only of Italians) have been kidnapped in the last ten years while they were abroad. Most of them were volunteers and aid workers of humanitarian organizations, which, although motivated by praiseworthy intentions, show a lack of knowledge of the problems and risks they are about to face.
As far as Kenya is concerned, anyone who comes as a volunteer/worker must be reported to the local authorities and be officially recognised as a volunteer/worker. What happened to Silvia Romano, Gian Marco Luina and Jessica Todaro, legitimises, therefore, the raising of some doubts about the superficiality with which various minor NGOs, manage the deployment of volunteers and workers in Kenya, since they seem to be at crossroads without references or logistical assistance. There is a suspicion that Silvia entered Kenya with a tourist visa, something that the Kenyan authorities will not have been very pleased about.
Some of the volunteers who worked with Africa Milele, used the services made available to them by Mrs. Tiziana, co-owner of the bar-restaurant Karen Blixen of Malindi, to whom, as per the instructions received, they delivered packages of drugs and other kinds. But perhaps neither they nor the non-profit organization knew that Mrs. Tiziana of Karen Blixen was actually called Mariangela Beltrame. Together with her husband, and co-owner, Roberto Ciavolella, she is the subject of legal proceedings before the court of Latina, for fraud amounting to more than three million euros, which they, as financial promoters, would have taken away from unsuspecting investors.
In fact, the investigations of the prosecutors against Mariangela Beltrame and Roberto Ciavolella, began in 2013 following the complaints made by some of their victims, but since the two were already settled in Africa, it has not been possible so far to notify them of the proceedings against them. These have already been postponed several times and the next hearing has been set for April of this year. If this last notification cannot be made in time, the charges against the two suspects will be fatally time-barred and it is curious, to say the least, that Italy, through its consular network, is able to notify Kenya of a fine for parking ticket (it happened to me) and does not manage, however, to do the same for a much more serious crime of fraud, given that in Malindi there is an honorary consul who knows very well where the two suspects live and work.
Considering that until the sentence in the third degree, one cannot speak of guilt, the president of Africa Milele, Lilian Sora, was not aware of this case against the people who were her contacts in the area: "Yes, I had heard of the rumors about the managers of Karen Blixen and the same Tiziana had more or less told me about lawsuits in progress - Lilian Sora explains on the phone - but only recently I learned from the media of the existence of legal proceedings against them in Italy." Lilian appears sincere and it is not appropriate to blame her, as some media have done, with great superficiality and a bit of malice.
After all, hers is a young charity that only started operating in 2013. Its president can not stay in Kenya (in the base of Chakama) more than two months a year, while the humus in which the Italian community of Malindi lives is so varied and complex that even those who have lived there for several decades, struggle to disentangle all the ramifications. Many personal attacks directed at Lilian Sora, mostly coming from inferences and malevolence without a shred of evidence, are making her life a real hell. The mud machine has taken action against an organization and its president more for ideological reasons than for evidence or clues.
But on the unfortunate affair of Silvia Romano, there is another qualified testimony. It is that of Davide Ciarrapica who manages the non-profit organization "Orphan Dream" in Likoni, on the southern coast of Kenya, where last August the Milanese volunteer had her first experience in Africa. "She was very good with children - he told Africa Express - but she was a little reluctant to follow the rules. She wanted to go out in the evening while we ask the volunteers who work with us not to return after ten o'clock because Likoni is also a very dangerous area, especially at night. Obviously, those who wanted to go out had the right to do so, but they did so at their own risk. Silvia had spent the last twenty days of her stay in Kenya in Chakama, in agreement with Lilian Sora, president of the non-profit organization Africa Milele. There she said she had found friends and that's why she wanted to come back, on her second trip, despite the fact that my African partner had strongly advised her against it because she would be alone and without even electricity, but she replied that in Chakama she felt free, she could go out with the locals and get up in the morning whenever she wanted."
"Those who had to protect her - continues Davide - were Joseph, Lilian Sora's Masaai companion, who unfortunately was not in Chakama on the day of the kidnapping. As for the suspicions, my idea, but it is completely personal, is that someone who was very close to her organized it, because they suddenly became too confident. I am so sorry for Silvia and I hope she can be freed soon."
Silvia is a twenty-three year old girl, with the desires and enthusiasm of her age, and she wants to live her youth to the full. The unworthy chorus of insults, of which she has been the subject on many social networks and blogs, expresses the worst feelings of a society that claims to be civilized. How can it be argued that the exuberance of young people has made her deserve the atrocity of which she was the victim? Nor should one fall into the insulting rhetoric of her sanctification. Silvia was a normal girl; neither holy nor guilty and the absolute lack of balance that is expressed through excesses (in one sense or another) is a sign of how ephemeral the soul can become of a society that is increasingly biased and sectarian.
BBM
For all his courtesy and friendliness, the author uses a razor-sharp pen to desc ribe the world of volunteers and small NGO's
More than two months have passed since the kidnapping of the Milanese aid worker Silvia Romano, and the triumphant statements of the Kenyan police, issued the day after the event, have proved to be what they were: coarse and reckless boutade, not supported by any objective relief. Today, the unfortunate affair of which our young compatriot has been the victim, remains shrouded in a leaden and anguished mystery. The massive arrests made, which seemed to include one of the alleged kidnappers, have produced a macroscopic nothing. The media keep quiet, the Farnesina keep quiet and the local authorities keep quiet or ramble. A disturbing silence full of questions.
Meanwhile, last Thursday, the Kenyan police arrested 24-year-old Milanese Gian Marco Duina, also a volunteer, while he was wandering around Ngao together with his friend Jessica Todaro. Ngao is a village in the Tana River, considered a high-risk area and subject to curfew. The two young people were in possession of simple tourist visas that did not allow them to carry out other activities than the ones purely holiday. The two were released the next day and it is hoped that they will benefit from this unpleasant experience.
Last month, in the dangerous Burkina Faso, Luca Tacchetto from Padua and his Canadian friend Edith Blais of 30 and 34 years respectively, disappeared - they were probably kidnapped. They also worked on behalf of a non-profit organization active in Togo, a country that the two young people wanted to reach with their car that, leaving from Padua, had crossed France, Spain, Morocco, Mauritania and Mali to reach Burkina Faso, from which, after a short stop, they would depart for the final destination.
It is impossible not to notice a certain ease in facing volunteer experiences in countries that are poor, politically unstable and subject to continuous tribal clashes. More than thirty people (we speak only of Italians) have been kidnapped in the last ten years while they were abroad. Most of them were volunteers and aid workers of humanitarian organizations, which, although motivated by praiseworthy intentions, show a lack of knowledge of the problems and risks they are about to face.
As far as Kenya is concerned, anyone who comes as a volunteer/worker must be reported to the local authorities and be officially recognised as a volunteer/worker. What happened to Silvia Romano, Gian Marco Luina and Jessica Todaro, legitimises, therefore, the raising of some doubts about the superficiality with which various minor NGOs, manage the deployment of volunteers and workers in Kenya, since they seem to be at crossroads without references or logistical assistance. There is a suspicion that Silvia entered Kenya with a tourist visa, something that the Kenyan authorities will not have been very pleased about.
Some of the volunteers who worked with Africa Milele, used the services made available to them by Mrs. Tiziana, co-owner of the bar-restaurant Karen Blixen of Malindi, to whom, as per the instructions received, they delivered packages of drugs and other kinds. But perhaps neither they nor the non-profit organization knew that Mrs. Tiziana of Karen Blixen was actually called Mariangela Beltrame. Together with her husband, and co-owner, Roberto Ciavolella, she is the subject of legal proceedings before the court of Latina, for fraud amounting to more than three million euros, which they, as financial promoters, would have taken away from unsuspecting investors.
In fact, the investigations of the prosecutors against Mariangela Beltrame and Roberto Ciavolella, began in 2013 following the complaints made by some of their victims, but since the two were already settled in Africa, it has not been possible so far to notify them of the proceedings against them. These have already been postponed several times and the next hearing has been set for April of this year. If this last notification cannot be made in time, the charges against the two suspects will be fatally time-barred and it is curious, to say the least, that Italy, through its consular network, is able to notify Kenya of a fine for parking ticket (it happened to me) and does not manage, however, to do the same for a much more serious crime of fraud, given that in Malindi there is an honorary consul who knows very well where the two suspects live and work.
Considering that until the sentence in the third degree, one cannot speak of guilt, the president of Africa Milele, Lilian Sora, was not aware of this case against the people who were her contacts in the area: "Yes, I had heard of the rumors about the managers of Karen Blixen and the same Tiziana had more or less told me about lawsuits in progress - Lilian Sora explains on the phone - but only recently I learned from the media of the existence of legal proceedings against them in Italy." Lilian appears sincere and it is not appropriate to blame her, as some media have done, with great superficiality and a bit of malice.
After all, hers is a young charity that only started operating in 2013. Its president can not stay in Kenya (in the base of Chakama) more than two months a year, while the humus in which the Italian community of Malindi lives is so varied and complex that even those who have lived there for several decades, struggle to disentangle all the ramifications. Many personal attacks directed at Lilian Sora, mostly coming from inferences and malevolence without a shred of evidence, are making her life a real hell. The mud machine has taken action against an organization and its president more for ideological reasons than for evidence or clues.
But on the unfortunate affair of Silvia Romano, there is another qualified testimony. It is that of Davide Ciarrapica who manages the non-profit organization "Orphan Dream" in Likoni, on the southern coast of Kenya, where last August the Milanese volunteer had her first experience in Africa. "She was very good with children - he told Africa Express - but she was a little reluctant to follow the rules. She wanted to go out in the evening while we ask the volunteers who work with us not to return after ten o'clock because Likoni is also a very dangerous area, especially at night. Obviously, those who wanted to go out had the right to do so, but they did so at their own risk. Silvia had spent the last twenty days of her stay in Kenya in Chakama, in agreement with Lilian Sora, president of the non-profit organization Africa Milele. There she said she had found friends and that's why she wanted to come back, on her second trip, despite the fact that my African partner had strongly advised her against it because she would be alone and without even electricity, but she replied that in Chakama she felt free, she could go out with the locals and get up in the morning whenever she wanted."
"Those who had to protect her - continues Davide - were Joseph, Lilian Sora's Masaai companion, who unfortunately was not in Chakama on the day of the kidnapping. As for the suspicions, my idea, but it is completely personal, is that someone who was very close to her organized it, because they suddenly became too confident. I am so sorry for Silvia and I hope she can be freed soon."
Silvia is a twenty-three year old girl, with the desires and enthusiasm of her age, and she wants to live her youth to the full. The unworthy chorus of insults, of which she has been the subject on many social networks and blogs, expresses the worst feelings of a society that claims to be civilized. How can it be argued that the exuberance of young people has made her deserve the atrocity of which she was the victim? Nor should one fall into the insulting rhetoric of her sanctification. Silvia was a normal girl; neither holy nor guilty and the absolute lack of balance that is expressed through excesses (in one sense or another) is a sign of how ephemeral the soul can become of a society that is increasingly biased and sectarian.
BBM
For all his courtesy and friendliness, the author uses a razor-sharp pen to desc ribe the world of volunteers and small NGO's
Le Burkina Faso perd le contrôle de son pays
Burkina Faso loses control of the country
Villages abandoned in the hands of terrorist groups while mining sites and luxury restaurants are sprouting up like mushrooms. How did a stable country become so dangerous that it made headlines with the disappearance of two Canadians in less than a month?
A few years ago, Burkina Faso was considered one of the quietest countries in West Africa and the Burkinabe people one of the warmest.
"In the same family, we could have a Muslim brother, another evangelical and another Catholic," says Frederick Madore, a post-doctoral fellow at the University of Florida.
With peace of mind, the very popular Québec sans frontières program could send dozens of young interns between the ages of 18 and 35 to learn about international cooperation.
Over the past two years, this number has dropped to zero. White people now have to move with an armed escort between cities. Quebeckers and other Westerners have learned to avoid busy restaurants at dinner time and choose to sleep in hotels not often visited by expatriates to avoid being the target of attacks.
In some areas, bandits who used to steal or kidnap foreigners for ransom are now joining jihadist groups that want to impose their ideology on villagers.
In the north of Burkina Faso lies the Sahel, a long desert strip with porous borders with neighbouring countries and several terrorist groups.
Their presence is not new. But until recently, Burkina Faso was rather spared, according to Frederick Madore.
Everything changed with the forced departure of President Blaise Comparoé in 2014. This politician, who was very skilled at giving the appearance of democracy to his regime, governed for nearly 30 years.
Considered a friend of Westerners, he sometimes acted as a mediator when an abduction occurred in a neighbouring country. Some suspect that he actually had a tacit agreement with terrorist groups: "You can pass through our territory, as long as there is no violence here," Mr. Madore says.
However, many young Burkinabe people were fed up with this style of "presidency for life." Demonstrations and strikes turned into a revolution and Comparoé was driven out.
But the new government was less well equipped than its predecessor to provide security. It has gradually lost control of the peripheral areas.
Overwhelmed, Prime Minister Paul Kaba Thiéba resigned a week ago.
In the north of the country, gendarmerie posts are regularly attacked. Over the past year, armed men have set fire to schools, to the point where teachers are now afraid to go and teach.
It is in these remote areas that most of the mining sites owned by Canadian companies are located.
"Canada is by far the largest foreign investor in the mining sector in Burkina Faso," says Bonnie Campbell, a professor at UQAM.
In this country, which is one of the poorest in the world, this industry has been growing steadily since the 2000s.
"Today, there are people in Burkina Faso who have a wine cellar. Gastronomic restaurants have opened their doors. That wasn't the case 10 years ago," says Denise Byrnes, Executive Director of Oxfam-Québec.
"The mining industry has attracted well-paid workers who have then created a demand for this kind of luxury," she says.
Until the 1990s, the main economic driver was cotton. But deregulation, privatization and "illegitimate" competition from Western countries have broken this market, says Campbell.
The Burkinabe government has therefore opened the door to foreign mining companies to revive the country's economy. However, these activities are highly mechanized and the benefits to the people are low.
The mining industry employs only 9,200 workers in a country with nearly 20 million people. "It's tiny! "exclaims Mrs. Campbell.
Meanwhile, mining companies are trying to negotiate with the Burkinabe government to pay even less money than promised, which delays the redistribution of wealth to the entire population.
Entire villages are being moved to dig the soil and use water. When this happens, it is not uncommon to see people demonstrating or blocking roads, several Quebeckers note when interviewed.
Many of these villagers feel abandoned by the State," explains Frédérick Madore explains. Health infrastructure is deficient, schools are closing.
It is therefore tempting for some of these people to turn to jihadist groups, particularly to secure some form of income.
"Islam is becoming a pretext, a more noble cause than mere banditry," according to Mr. Madore.
In the north of the country, the first terrorist group of Burkinabe origin was created in 2016. In February 2018, a second front opened in the east of the country, he added.
Then last December, the red zone extended southwest, where Quebecker Édith Blais was last seen.
Many Quebeckers stay in Burkina Faso despite the rise of insecurity, whether for international cooperation projects or to work in the mines.
Marc-André Bernier got the sting of remoteness working as a technician in -40°C in mines in northern Ontario. He now lives between Quebec and Burkina Faso, where he makes a lot of money as chief mechanic for a drilling company.
"To avoid attacks, you don't eat out in crowded restaurants between 7:00 p. m. and 8:30 p. m. in the evening," says the 26-year-old man.
Like Edith Blais, he comes from Sherbrooke. And even if he has to travel by plane or under escort, he doesn't think about changing his life.
According to the Department of Global Affairs, nearly 600 Canadians are currently registered with the Embassy.
"It's a country I love," says Denise Byrnes of Oxfam-Québec, who is still sending professional development workers to the field while closely monitoring the situation.
Even if the growing presence of mining companies is sometimes controversial, tensions are rare, she explains.
"I have friends who work for them." But it is true that some companies are less responsible than others in terms of human and environmental responsibility. "With the government out of control, they can do almost anything they want," she adds.
"Canadian mining cannot be said to be a direct factor in instability. However, they could be part of the solution," says Bonnie Campbell of UQAM.
For example, Ghana, a neighbouring country, requires companies to train a minimum quota of local leaders, she illustrates.
In the meantime, the Canadian government could also take action. In January 2018, the Trudeau government announced the creation of an ombudsman to monitor mining companies abroad. A year later, we are still waiting.
"Let's just say we didn't stay long," Félix Séguin, journalist from the Bureau of Inquiry, admits. He returned from Burkina Faso last Wednesday.
Following in the footsteps of missing Edith Blais, he went to Bobo-Dioulasso, where she was last seen.
Although this city is the second most populous in the country, it is 40 kilometres from the risk zone," explains Félix Séguin. "And you're really all alone when it comes to white people," he says.
He was fortunate to be accompanied by an armed guard. "Of course, journalistically speaking, it was not my wish[to be so heavily escorted]. But we understood that it was necessary."
However, in the event of an attack, even this type of securityt has its limitations. "We were told that nine times out of ten, the guard may run away," he says.
Canadians missing or killed
January 2019
Canadian Kirk Woodman was abducted from a mining site in northeastern Burkina Faso and found dead. It would have been stolen before it was killed.
December 2018
Edith Blais, 34 years old and from Sherbrooke, as well as her partner, Luca Tacchetto, 30 years old and Italian, have not given any sign of life since December 15 when they were driving across Burkina Faso.
August 2017
Two Canadians are among the victims of an attack in Burkina Faso at a restaurant in the capital Ouagadougou.
January 2016
Six Quebecers were killed in a jihadist commando attack on a hotel and restaurant in Ouagadougou, killing 29 people.
A family from Beauport is decimated.
Burkina Faso in brief
Capital: Ouagadougou
Population (million): about 20 million
Surface area: 274,200 km2
Currency(s): 1 CAN $ = 448 CFA francs (XOF) (2017 - Annual average)
Main languages: French, Mooré, Dioula, Fulfudé
GDP (billions of dollars): 16 (2146 for Canada)
GDP per capita ($): $862 (58,542 for Canada)
Source: Government of Canada
The Canadian presence in Burkina Faso
589: registered Canadian nationals
CAN $2.2 billion: Canadian mining assets in 2016
9200: Direct employment created by the mining sector in all regions in 2017.
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Burkina Faso loses control of the country
Villages abandoned in the hands of terrorist groups while mining sites and luxury restaurants are sprouting up like mushrooms. How did a stable country become so dangerous that it made headlines with the disappearance of two Canadians in less than a month?
A few years ago, Burkina Faso was considered one of the quietest countries in West Africa and the Burkinabe people one of the warmest.
"In the same family, we could have a Muslim brother, another evangelical and another Catholic," says Frederick Madore, a post-doctoral fellow at the University of Florida.
With peace of mind, the very popular Québec sans frontières program could send dozens of young interns between the ages of 18 and 35 to learn about international cooperation.
Over the past two years, this number has dropped to zero. White people now have to move with an armed escort between cities. Quebeckers and other Westerners have learned to avoid busy restaurants at dinner time and choose to sleep in hotels not often visited by expatriates to avoid being the target of attacks.
In some areas, bandits who used to steal or kidnap foreigners for ransom are now joining jihadist groups that want to impose their ideology on villagers.
In the north of Burkina Faso lies the Sahel, a long desert strip with porous borders with neighbouring countries and several terrorist groups.
Their presence is not new. But until recently, Burkina Faso was rather spared, according to Frederick Madore.
Everything changed with the forced departure of President Blaise Comparoé in 2014. This politician, who was very skilled at giving the appearance of democracy to his regime, governed for nearly 30 years.
Considered a friend of Westerners, he sometimes acted as a mediator when an abduction occurred in a neighbouring country. Some suspect that he actually had a tacit agreement with terrorist groups: "You can pass through our territory, as long as there is no violence here," Mr. Madore says.
However, many young Burkinabe people were fed up with this style of "presidency for life." Demonstrations and strikes turned into a revolution and Comparoé was driven out.
But the new government was less well equipped than its predecessor to provide security. It has gradually lost control of the peripheral areas.
Overwhelmed, Prime Minister Paul Kaba Thiéba resigned a week ago.
In the north of the country, gendarmerie posts are regularly attacked. Over the past year, armed men have set fire to schools, to the point where teachers are now afraid to go and teach.
It is in these remote areas that most of the mining sites owned by Canadian companies are located.
"Canada is by far the largest foreign investor in the mining sector in Burkina Faso," says Bonnie Campbell, a professor at UQAM.
In this country, which is one of the poorest in the world, this industry has been growing steadily since the 2000s.
"Today, there are people in Burkina Faso who have a wine cellar. Gastronomic restaurants have opened their doors. That wasn't the case 10 years ago," says Denise Byrnes, Executive Director of Oxfam-Québec.
"The mining industry has attracted well-paid workers who have then created a demand for this kind of luxury," she says.
Until the 1990s, the main economic driver was cotton. But deregulation, privatization and "illegitimate" competition from Western countries have broken this market, says Campbell.
The Burkinabe government has therefore opened the door to foreign mining companies to revive the country's economy. However, these activities are highly mechanized and the benefits to the people are low.
The mining industry employs only 9,200 workers in a country with nearly 20 million people. "It's tiny! "exclaims Mrs. Campbell.
Meanwhile, mining companies are trying to negotiate with the Burkinabe government to pay even less money than promised, which delays the redistribution of wealth to the entire population.
Entire villages are being moved to dig the soil and use water. When this happens, it is not uncommon to see people demonstrating or blocking roads, several Quebeckers note when interviewed.
Many of these villagers feel abandoned by the State," explains Frédérick Madore explains. Health infrastructure is deficient, schools are closing.
It is therefore tempting for some of these people to turn to jihadist groups, particularly to secure some form of income.
"Islam is becoming a pretext, a more noble cause than mere banditry," according to Mr. Madore.
In the north of the country, the first terrorist group of Burkinabe origin was created in 2016. In February 2018, a second front opened in the east of the country, he added.
Then last December, the red zone extended southwest, where Quebecker Édith Blais was last seen.
Many Quebeckers stay in Burkina Faso despite the rise of insecurity, whether for international cooperation projects or to work in the mines.
Marc-André Bernier got the sting of remoteness working as a technician in -40°C in mines in northern Ontario. He now lives between Quebec and Burkina Faso, where he makes a lot of money as chief mechanic for a drilling company.
"To avoid attacks, you don't eat out in crowded restaurants between 7:00 p. m. and 8:30 p. m. in the evening," says the 26-year-old man.
Like Edith Blais, he comes from Sherbrooke. And even if he has to travel by plane or under escort, he doesn't think about changing his life.
According to the Department of Global Affairs, nearly 600 Canadians are currently registered with the Embassy.
"It's a country I love," says Denise Byrnes of Oxfam-Québec, who is still sending professional development workers to the field while closely monitoring the situation.
Even if the growing presence of mining companies is sometimes controversial, tensions are rare, she explains.
"I have friends who work for them." But it is true that some companies are less responsible than others in terms of human and environmental responsibility. "With the government out of control, they can do almost anything they want," she adds.
"Canadian mining cannot be said to be a direct factor in instability. However, they could be part of the solution," says Bonnie Campbell of UQAM.
For example, Ghana, a neighbouring country, requires companies to train a minimum quota of local leaders, she illustrates.
In the meantime, the Canadian government could also take action. In January 2018, the Trudeau government announced the creation of an ombudsman to monitor mining companies abroad. A year later, we are still waiting.
"Let's just say we didn't stay long," Félix Séguin, journalist from the Bureau of Inquiry, admits. He returned from Burkina Faso last Wednesday.
Following in the footsteps of missing Edith Blais, he went to Bobo-Dioulasso, where she was last seen.
Although this city is the second most populous in the country, it is 40 kilometres from the risk zone," explains Félix Séguin. "And you're really all alone when it comes to white people," he says.
He was fortunate to be accompanied by an armed guard. "Of course, journalistically speaking, it was not my wish[to be so heavily escorted]. But we understood that it was necessary."
However, in the event of an attack, even this type of securityt has its limitations. "We were told that nine times out of ten, the guard may run away," he says.
Canadians missing or killed
January 2019
Canadian Kirk Woodman was abducted from a mining site in northeastern Burkina Faso and found dead. It would have been stolen before it was killed.
December 2018
Edith Blais, 34 years old and from Sherbrooke, as well as her partner, Luca Tacchetto, 30 years old and Italian, have not given any sign of life since December 15 when they were driving across Burkina Faso.
August 2017
Two Canadians are among the victims of an attack in Burkina Faso at a restaurant in the capital Ouagadougou.
January 2016
Six Quebecers were killed in a jihadist commando attack on a hotel and restaurant in Ouagadougou, killing 29 people.
A family from Beauport is decimated.
Burkina Faso in brief
Capital: Ouagadougou
Population (million): about 20 million
Surface area: 274,200 km2
Currency(s): 1 CAN $ = 448 CFA francs (XOF) (2017 - Annual average)
Main languages: French, Mooré, Dioula, Fulfudé
GDP (billions of dollars): 16 (2146 for Canada)
GDP per capita ($): $862 (58,542 for Canada)
Source: Government of Canada
The Canadian presence in Burkina Faso
589: registered Canadian nationals
CAN $2.2 billion: Canadian mining assets in 2016
9200: Direct employment created by the mining sector in all regions in 2017.
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«J.E.» au Burkina Faso : des amis prêts à tout pour retrouver Edith et Luca
"J.E." visited Bobo-Dioulasso, the country's second largest city, located 40 kilometres from the red zone, the far north of Burkina Faso, where the authorities advise against the travels of any expatriate.
It was there that Edith and Luca were last seen by Robert Guilloteau. He welcomed them into his home for a day and a night. It was in his villa that the last photos of the couple were taken.
This is how Edith and Luca's last day went before they disappeared, according to him.
- On Saturday, December 15 at noon, Edith and Luca arrive at Robert Guilloteau's house in Bobo-Dioulasso
- At 2pm, they go to the Cyber Poste Internet Café
- At 5:30 p. m., they return to their French friend's house
- At 6pm, the three friends will have a drink together at Maquis Las Vegas, the equivalent of a pub in Quebec.
- At 8:00 p. m., they all come home to shower
- At 9pm, the trio leaves again, this time for the Maquis du bois d'ébène
- On Sunday, December 16, Edith and Luca wake up around 9am
- At 10:30 am, Edith and Luca leave their host Robert to go to Ouagadougou
That was the last time Edith and Luca were seen.
"I didn't hear from them so that is weird I told my wife they went to Togo and they didn't even tell us. But hey, since they're young and everything..." Robert says. He didn't learn until three weeks later that Edith and Luca were missing.
According to our information, Edith Blais caught the attention of the public when she was in Bobo-Dioulasso. In the current context, it is often better not to do so.
Edith went to Africa to help, to give, because she wears her heart on her sleeve. Robert fears it may have affected her and Luca in a negative way.
"They were so kind. Maybe that's what scared me a little bit, you know when you're too kind, you can be tricked into something," he says.
He wanted to send a message to those who might have kidnapped his friends. "I have something to ask, if they are kidnappers, these people are too kind, you really have to give them back to their families. They are really nice people, they did no harm and they were even going to do humanitarian work in Togo," he begged.
The disappearance of Edith and Luca has shaken up many Quebecers living in Burkina Faso. Some knew them, others did not, but many want to know what happened.
This is the case of Patrick Gagnon, an entrepreneur who has lived in Ouagadougou since 2013. He distributed dozens of posters to find Edith.
He knows that his strategy is unlikely to work because there is every reason to believe that Edith and Luca were kidnapped, possibly by a terrorist group.
Patrick also went to the Togolese border since it is in this country that the duo was supposed to go.
"I entered the customs posts. I explained the situation. A missing person. I looked for the Italian too. They said they hadn't been here," explains the native Quebecker.
Patrick thinks Edith and Luca may have been unlucky. "If you come across a wrong person at the wrong time, it can easily turn against you. Two young people in their early thirties, we have to be careful, very careful," he adds.
"J.E." is also meeting Stéphanie Beauchamp, a humanitarian living in Burkina Faso, who looks a lot like Edith Blais, but who has not been approached by the authorities.
Stephanie wants to make Burkinabe people aware of her compatriot's disappearance and calls out to people by showing them Edith's picture. Many of them do not know anything about this story.
"Their priority is certainly not the Canadian who is missing. It's a real shame, people are more concerned about whether they're going to have money today, how they're going to eat," she explains.
She also believes that the authorities do not seem to be aware of the disappearance.
"I don't know what the police are looking for, but if they see white people, they wave their hands at us and nothing seems problematic, but there's a girl who's missing! So if you see a white person, you can check, can't you?" asks Stephanie.
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"JE" is a programme with a reporter of the same name (?) of Canadian channel TVA.
TVA has blocked viewings from Europe, due to the EU regulations. So while the video report is online, I cannot access or view it. What could possibly go wrong, I wonder but apparently, danger lurks that we need to be shielded from. If someone from Canada could rip the video and post it, I would be moste grateful because a link won't work for me.
"J.E." visited Bobo-Dioulasso, the country's second largest city, located 40 kilometres from the red zone, the far north of Burkina Faso, where the authorities advise against the travels of any expatriate.
It was there that Edith and Luca were last seen by Robert Guilloteau. He welcomed them into his home for a day and a night. It was in his villa that the last photos of the couple were taken.
This is how Edith and Luca's last day went before they disappeared, according to him.
- On Saturday, December 15 at noon, Edith and Luca arrive at Robert Guilloteau's house in Bobo-Dioulasso
- At 2pm, they go to the Cyber Poste Internet Café
- At 5:30 p. m., they return to their French friend's house
- At 6pm, the three friends will have a drink together at Maquis Las Vegas, the equivalent of a pub in Quebec.
- At 8:00 p. m., they all come home to shower
- At 9pm, the trio leaves again, this time for the Maquis du bois d'ébène
- On Sunday, December 16, Edith and Luca wake up around 9am
- At 10:30 am, Edith and Luca leave their host Robert to go to Ouagadougou
That was the last time Edith and Luca were seen.
"I didn't hear from them so that is weird I told my wife they went to Togo and they didn't even tell us. But hey, since they're young and everything..." Robert says. He didn't learn until three weeks later that Edith and Luca were missing.
According to our information, Edith Blais caught the attention of the public when she was in Bobo-Dioulasso. In the current context, it is often better not to do so.
Edith went to Africa to help, to give, because she wears her heart on her sleeve. Robert fears it may have affected her and Luca in a negative way.
"They were so kind. Maybe that's what scared me a little bit, you know when you're too kind, you can be tricked into something," he says.
He wanted to send a message to those who might have kidnapped his friends. "I have something to ask, if they are kidnappers, these people are too kind, you really have to give them back to their families. They are really nice people, they did no harm and they were even going to do humanitarian work in Togo," he begged.
The disappearance of Edith and Luca has shaken up many Quebecers living in Burkina Faso. Some knew them, others did not, but many want to know what happened.
This is the case of Patrick Gagnon, an entrepreneur who has lived in Ouagadougou since 2013. He distributed dozens of posters to find Edith.
He knows that his strategy is unlikely to work because there is every reason to believe that Edith and Luca were kidnapped, possibly by a terrorist group.
Patrick also went to the Togolese border since it is in this country that the duo was supposed to go.
"I entered the customs posts. I explained the situation. A missing person. I looked for the Italian too. They said they hadn't been here," explains the native Quebecker.
Patrick thinks Edith and Luca may have been unlucky. "If you come across a wrong person at the wrong time, it can easily turn against you. Two young people in their early thirties, we have to be careful, very careful," he adds.
"J.E." is also meeting Stéphanie Beauchamp, a humanitarian living in Burkina Faso, who looks a lot like Edith Blais, but who has not been approached by the authorities.
Stephanie wants to make Burkinabe people aware of her compatriot's disappearance and calls out to people by showing them Edith's picture. Many of them do not know anything about this story.
"Their priority is certainly not the Canadian who is missing. It's a real shame, people are more concerned about whether they're going to have money today, how they're going to eat," she explains.
She also believes that the authorities do not seem to be aware of the disappearance.
"I don't know what the police are looking for, but if they see white people, they wave their hands at us and nothing seems problematic, but there's a girl who's missing! So if you see a white person, you can check, can't you?" asks Stephanie.
BBM
"JE" is a programme with a reporter of the same name (?) of Canadian channel TVA.
TVA has blocked viewings from Europe, due to the EU regulations. So while the video report is online, I cannot access or view it. What could possibly go wrong, I wonder but apparently, danger lurks that we need to be shielded from. If someone from Canada could rip the video and post it, I would be moste grateful because a link won't work for me.
LUCA ED EDITH: PARLA L'ULTIMA PERSONA CHE LI HA VISTI
LUCA AND EDITH: THE LAST PERSON WHO SAW THEM SPEAKS OUT
He is the last person who saw Luca Tacchetto and Edith Blais before their mysterious disappearance in Burkina Faso. And he is the last person to appear in the last video that the son of the former mayor of Vigonza sent home. Robert Guilloteau is the Frenchman married to a burkinabè resident in Bobo-Dioluasso, with more than half a million inhabitants, the second largest city in the African country. He hosted the two young people who disappeared on December 16. Guilloteau has now been interviewed by the Canadian media in Africa and has described Luca and Edith as "polite and kind" so much so as to fear that this "kindness and naivety may have damaged them." The Frenchman could not help but hypothesize which way they took after greeting him by offering a series of alternatives describing very different scenarios for danger or safety. Luca and Edith's car journey had almost reached its destination: Togo. But as far as we know, the route to Togo could always be altered even at the last minute.
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LUCA AND EDITH: THE LAST PERSON WHO SAW THEM SPEAKS OUT
He is the last person who saw Luca Tacchetto and Edith Blais before their mysterious disappearance in Burkina Faso. And he is the last person to appear in the last video that the son of the former mayor of Vigonza sent home. Robert Guilloteau is the Frenchman married to a burkinabè resident in Bobo-Dioluasso, with more than half a million inhabitants, the second largest city in the African country. He hosted the two young people who disappeared on December 16. Guilloteau has now been interviewed by the Canadian media in Africa and has described Luca and Edith as "polite and kind" so much so as to fear that this "kindness and naivety may have damaged them." The Frenchman could not help but hypothesize which way they took after greeting him by offering a series of alternatives describing very different scenarios for danger or safety. Luca and Edith's car journey had almost reached its destination: Togo. But as far as we know, the route to Togo could always be altered even at the last minute.
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You mean the video at the top of the article? It plays for me but how do I "rip" it?
I cannot see the video on top of the article either. But I can read the article, it's from Journal de Montreal.
The entire website of TVA Canada is blocked for me, it is called geo-blocking.
I have seen a few introductions to the report on their FB page, but as soon as a link goes to the website, I am blocked. I would love to take a look and see their reports on Luca and Edith!
Can you take a look at the TVA site?
I don't know how to rip so unfortunately I cannot help you there.
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This one? TVA, la chaîne télé préférée des Québécois: séries, films, variétés, grilles horaires
I can open it. But I don't speak French and I don't see anything about Edith and Luca.
I can open it. But I don't speak French and I don't see anything about Edith and Luca.
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Can anyone see these videos?
Sherbrooke derrière Edith Blais
«J.E.» sur les traces d’Edith Blais
«On croit qu’elle est en vie», dit Justin Trudeau
Sherbrooke derrière Edith Blais
«J.E.» sur les traces d’Edith Blais
«On croit qu’elle est en vie», dit Justin Trudeau
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That's the one. If there is nothing about Luca and Edith, I can sleep quietly tonight .....
Blocked, all three.
"JE" sur les traces d'Edith Blais would be the one. Interview with Robert on a patio, and more.
The one in Italian I do see. IMHO it is a short summary of the "JE" report.
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