CA - ‘Uncharted territory’ as Lake Oroville rises toward damaged dam

[SophieRose]

Hard to realize just how big it is until you see a person against it.

 

[watergirl62]

[video=youtube;-5d_DI_v0rc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5d_DI_v0rc[/video]

This is a great video. Thanks for posting it.

 

[watergirl62]

Breaking now

Hi Sophie -

March 4, 2017:

“The damage is catastrophic,

Riverbanks collapse after Oroville Dam spillway shut off [FONT=&amp]5:39 AM[/FONT]


saw 25-foot bluffs collapse, but also lost irrigation lines to his almonds. “When the bank pulled in,” he said, “it pulled the pumps in with it. It busted the steel pipes.”

http://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/Riverbanks-collapse-after-Oroville-Dam-spillway-10976144.php

Interesting downstream domino effect. Thanks for posting this, CARIIS. Hope your go-to guy can check it out for us.

At least the fish update is encouraging.

 

[SophieRose]

http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/predictions/90day/fxus05.html
THE MARCH-APRIL-MAY (MAM) 2017 TEMPERATURE OUTLOOK FAVORS ABOVE-NORMAL TEMPERATURES EAST OF A LINE THAT RUNS APPROXIMATELY FROM SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA THROUGH EASTERN WYOMING TO NORTHERN MINNESOTA, AND OVER WESTERN ALASKA. PROBABILITIES OF ABOVE-NORMAL TEMPERATURES EXCEED 50-PERCENT OVER PORTIONS OF THE SOUTHWESTERN AND SOUTH-CENTRAL CONUS, AND OVER MUCH OF THE NORTHEAST.

Now look at all this snow. Truckee is near Lake Tahoe.

[video=youtube;OKE_XJDw2zc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKE_XJDw2zc[/video]

 

[CARIIS]

Interesting downstream domino effect. Thanks for posting this, CARIIS. Hope your go-to guy can check it out for us.

At least the fish update is encouraging.

Me too my dear - since no-one is showing the rest of the world !!

 

[CARIIS]

Hard to realize just how big it is until you see a person against it.

Or bulldozers! Its numbing

 

[CARIIS]

[FONT=&quot] there is potentially risk for damage of other kinds when water releases from Lake Oroville begin again, and the already collapsed sections of land begin to erode.

[/FONT][FONT=&quot] "Most of the time, they’ll give us three to five days, maybe even a week to lower the river," and this rapid change was just "ridiculous."

[/FONT][FONT=&quot]more drama is likely to ensue as late winter and spring rains, coupled with snowmelt in the Sierra Nevada mountains, require more releases of water from the dam

[/FONT]http://sfist.com/2017/03/04/oroville_dam_shutoff_causes_riverba.php

 

[SophieRose]

This guy is the best for explaining what is happening at Oroville. He works part time at a civil engineering & environmental services company in Grass Valley, about an hour south of Oroville. A plus for CARIIS, his main job is as a pilot at American Airlines, and once safely landed a plane carrying 147 people from Hawaii to LA after an engine quit. He's got quite a number of videos on the Oroville crisis. I plan to watch some of his others as well. He starts out in his home office and then goes out to Oroville on this one.

[video=youtube;ilkU_ivYTqQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilkU_ivYTqQ[/video]

 

[CARIIS]

He was great what is his name ?

This guy is the best for explaining what is happening at Oroville. He works part time at a civil engineering & environmental services company in Grass Valley, about an hour south of Oroville. A plus for CARIIS, his main job is as a pilot at American Airlines, and once safely landed a plane carrying 147 people from Hawaii to LA after an engine quit. He's got quite a number of videos on the Oroville crisis. I plan to watch some of his others as well. He starts out in his home office and then goes out to Oroville on this one.

[video=youtube;ilkU_ivYTqQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilkU_ivYTqQ[/video]

 

[SophieRose]

He was great what is his name ?

Here's all his videos on Oroville.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6SYmp3qb3uMCqXIp7mYmiAPeEVoazpUE

And here's the latest from his home.

[video=youtube;zWNwBm9uwJI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWNwBm9uwJI&list=PL6SYmp3qb3uMCqXIp7mYmiAPeEVoazpUE&index=13[/video]

 

[CARIIS]

The power plant was turned off at about 10 a.m. Saturday to allow further deepening of the water channel.

Local story in background

 

[SophieRose]

[video=youtube;WzP8Qe_pQyg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzP8Qe_pQyg[/video]

 

[SophieRose]

They are working 24/7. On 2/24/17 there were 567 people working at the dam.

 

[CARIIS]

Posting but who cares! It happens wekk

[video=youtube;9ObspDdOttg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ObspDdOttg[/video]

 

[CARIIS]

Last post I meant media !! (not caring)

The riverbank failures were for MILES guys

http://www.kcra.com/article/receding-water-collapses-riverbanks-in-marysville/9094877

 

[SophieRose]

OT: There is this one guy on the youtube posters who keeps postng a picture of a snow wall to illustrate snowfall in the Sierras and what is ahead for the Oroville Dam in the spring. I looked up to see if I could find this wall and it turns out it's in Japan, but it's a really interesting road. Check it out.

https://www.google.com/search?q=bus...bih=868#tbm=isch&q=tateyama+japan+snow+road&*

 

[tarabull]

California’s Oroville Dam possibly washing up gold
March 3, 2017

http://cw39.com/2017/03/03/californias-oroville-dam-possibly-washing-up-gold/

 

[JanetElaine]

His latest update, from yesterday. Looks like they're making a lot of headway on the river, clearing all those debris.

https://youtu.be/PHBugwwEdyk?list=PL6SYmp3qb3uMCqXIp7mYmiAPeEVoazpUE

 

[CARIIS]

865 is the threshold

at 860

At this point here comes the test. They got the powerplant at max output (5 of the 6 turbines up and running- one is broken).

Or to put it another way at this point our only next option is to go back to using the spillway.

IMO, this round has more risk of damage to farmers downstream.

Only one media outlet covered it basically, But a couple of weeks ago right after the cut flow off for repair , downstream , a whole bunch water banks collapsed.

These were not little collapses - in reality - it went on for miles AND the collapses were for miles as well.

Riverbanks collapse after Oroville Dam spillway shut off


March 4

“The damage is catastrophic,” said Brad Foster, who has waterfront property in Marysville (Yuba County), about 25 miles south of Lake Oroville.
The farmer not only saw 25-foot bluffs collapse, but also lost irrigation lines to his almonds. “When the bank pulled in,” he said, “it pulled the pumps in with it. It busted the steel pipes.”

emergency operations manager, ....deterioration of the riverside, said he hasn’t seen anything like it.

declined to discuss the situation.

emergency operations manager, Scott Bryan, who has surveyed the deterioration of the riverside, said he hasn’t seen anything like it.

http://ktla.com/2017/03/10/damaged-...-to-be-used-by-next-week-state-officials-say/

http://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/...apse-after-Oroville-Dam-spillway-10976144.php

I do not know - does not feel good. It's kinda like if something is wrong with ones car and ya leave it alone it runs.

But when you start tampering with it , and don't get the repair done .............and start it up again?

 

[CARIIS]