CA - 10 children rescued from horrible conditions, Fairfield, 31 Mar 2018 *Arrests*

[Stunned]

Of course it's a threat - it's called witness tampering.

She's prohibited from contacting any of the ten children. A no contact order typically includes language that also prohibits attempts at third party contact. IMO, her pleas to her children via that media interview are in violation of the no contact order. I'll reiterate what I said in a previous post: She needs to get popped for violating the no contact order.

She's effectively saying to the children (IMO): The cops are being mean to Mommy & Daddy. If you ever want to see Mommy & Daddy again, tell the cops that you lied.

Even in cases of severe abuse, children still love their abusive parent. I'm sure these children are terrified of never seeing their parents again.

This needs to be stopped, if it hasn’t already been. More damage is being done to those kids every time she is given air time.

 

[sorrell skye]

This needs to be stopped, if it hasn’t already been. More damage is being done to those kids every time she is given air time.

Hi Stunned - you probably haven't caught up with the thread just yet, but her attempts at trying to contact her children have been stopped, thankfully.

Ina Rogers (mother) has been arrested again - this time on multiple felony charges. Her bail has been set at $495,000, in part due to her recent attempt to make contact with her children.

Welcome to the thread!

 

[Stunned]

Hi Stunned - you probably haven't caught up with the thread just yet, but her attempts at trying to contact her children have been stopped, thankfully.

Ina Rogers (mother) has been arrested again - this time on multiple felony charges. Her bail has been set at $495,000, in part due to her recent attempt to make contact with her children.

Welcome to the thread!

Just caught up! Thanks for being kind!

 

[Amonet]

I agree Chiquita! BTW: Howdy neighbor! We're both in the same neck of the woods.

A lotta folks consider anyone who doesn't practice one of the mainstream Abrahamic religions as a "satan worshipper". I don't agree with that characterization at all.

I see there is speculation that Allen is a member of a cult. Where is that coming from? Because he has a tattoo of the Eye of Horus and the maternal grandmother accused him of "devil" worship? Has it been verified that he's associated with any cult at all, let alone a satan-worshipping cult?

I don't like this dude at all because of the horrific abuse he's alleged to have inflicted upon these children. He's already a monster in my eyes. His facial tattoos may or may not mean anything at all, in terms of why he (allegedly) abused the children.

There was a picture posted earlier of a satanic alter with satanic statues and a book about Lucifer. But as far as the treatment of the children goes I think that's just pure abuse.

Those kids must have had to do so many takes to learn what they were supposed to do/say in the videos, and at some points at least one of them looked at the camera with a look of terror in the eyes.

The eldest girl seems to have had some education, she seems able to read and do basic counting. She also has the appearance of taking care of her younger siblings, which I think one of the parents said that the older ones take care of the younger ones, and the video bears that out for me.

 

[cybervampira]

Ten children removed from filthy California home were waterboarded, hit with crossbows and BBs, prosecutors say

The allegations were part of an attempt by prosecutors to have the bail of the children's mother, Ina Rogers, increased after she was charged with nine counts of felony child abuse.

[...]

Ina Rogers, center, appeared in Solano County Superior Court in Fairfield, California, on Wednesday to face multiple charges of felony child abuse. (Robinson Kuntz/Daily Republic via AP)

[...]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/05/1...t-with-crossbows-and-bbs-prosecutors-say.html

 

[Ontario Mom]

Something is just not sitting right with me on this case. In their youtube videos those kids looked happy, healthy, well dressed and quite articulate. Granted, even though the videos were just uploaded 3 days ago, it's impossible to tell when they were actually created. That said, they absolutely do not look like kids who have suffered this horrific abuse the MSM keeps reporting.

Then there's this video of mom, posted just yesterday.

So... is she out of jail? Who posted this? Loads of questions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCSuLHFrfHI&t=557s

 

[bears10]

Something is just not sitting right with me on this case. In their youtube videos those kids looked happy, healthy, well dressed and quite articulate. Granted, even though the videos were just uploaded 3 days ago, it's impossible to tell when they were actually created. That said, they absolutely do not look like kids who have suffered this horrific abuse the MSM keeps reporting.

Then there's this video of mom, posted just yesterday.

So... is she out of jail? Who posted this? Loads of questions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCSuLHFrfHI&t=557s

The Hart moms posted wonderful looking videos and photos of their kids all over Facebook and YouTube. Then they drove themselves and the kids off a cliff. And while they were taking these (likely staged) videos and pictures, they were also abusing their kids.

Eta - the video you posted is from days ago. It was uploaded by that specific YouTuber yesterday, but it was originally posted by MSM a few days ago.

 

[claudianunes]

Something is just not sitting right with me on this case. In their youtube videos those kids looked happy, healthy, well dressed and quite articulate. Granted, even though the videos were just uploaded 3 days ago, it's impossible to tell when they were actually created. That said, they absolutely do not look like kids who have suffered this horrific abuse the MSM keeps reporting.

Then there's this video of mom, posted just yesterday.

So... is she out of jail? Who posted this? Loads of questions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCSuLHFrfHI&t=557s

The Turpins had plenty of pictures of the children looking happy in Disneyland and Vegas. They even had pictures from photoshoots. Pictures and videos are just that. If you want to portray a certain imagine on social media, you can do it, whatever it may be.

 

[Amonet]

Something is just not sitting right with me on this case. In their youtube videos those kids looked happy, healthy, well dressed and quite articulate. Granted, even though the videos were just uploaded 3 days ago, it's impossible to tell when they were actually created. That said, they absolutely do not look like kids who have suffered this horrific abuse the MSM keeps reporting.

Then there's this video of mom, posted just yesterday.

So... is she out of jail? Who posted this? Loads of questions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCSuLHFrfHI&t=557s

The eldest boy in those videos of the kids sometimes looked at the camera with absolute terror in his eyes.

I am only learning about child torture from a few cases on here, but perfectly behaved children seems to be consistent with severe abuse. I'm not saying all well-behaved children are abused but that it's complicated as abused children have to be on their best behavior *all* the time lest a beating come, so the children are walking on eggshells in terms of behavior.

IR is claiming her husband to be an amazing dad, she's an amazing mother...who says that about themselves? Most people would say they try their best to be a good parent, the best they can be.

IR has previously reported that her husband put a gun in her mouth and threatened to kill her and the kids? To be honest, the look in that boy's eyes, the way the eldest girl seems to want to be careful of the behavior of the younger ones, it looks consistent with children living in fear.

The children, in the videos, don't look starved, the eldest girl seems to be able to read and do basic math, the kids look nicely dressed *in the video*. A video with a very heavy production feel to it, where those kids have had to practise over and over to get all their words right and their cheers sounding happy and coordinated.

IR looks and sounds lovely. Educated, nicely spoken, well presented, an attractive woman. I think the Hart mothers would have presented a similar image in a short video like that. So we can't take too much from that.

If the DA is going to bring charges of cigarette burns and pellet gun wounds they're going to have to show doctor's reports and actual photographic evidence. They won't be able to just put the grandma on the stand making allegations of these things, they'll have to produce evidence, and that's what we'll have to wait for. People can't get a fair trial by media, the guilty can present the front of a poor victim, the innocent can suffer rumor-mongering from people who just don't like them very much for no good reason. It's what comes out in trial that will matter.

 

[Gigglingtoes]

The eldest boy in those videos of the kids sometimes looked at the camera with absolute terror in his eyes.

I am only learning about child torture from a few cases on here, but perfectly behaved children seems to be consistent with severe abuse. I'm not saying all well-behaved children are abused but that it's complicated as abused children have to be on their best behavior *all* the time lest a beating come, so the children are walking on eggshells in terms of behavior.

IR is claiming her husband to be an amazing dad, she's an amazing mother...who says that about themselves? Most people would say they try their best to be a good parent, the best they can be.

IR has previously reported that her husband put a gun in her mouth and threatened to kill her and the kids? To be honest, the look in that boy's eyes, the way the eldest girl seems to want to be careful of the behavior of the younger ones, it looks consistent with children living in fear.

The children, in the videos, don't look starved, the eldest girl seems to be able to read and do basic math, the kids look nicely dressed *in the video*. A video with a very heavy production feel to it, where those kids have had to practise over and over to get all their words right and their cheers sounding happy and coordinated.

IR looks and sounds lovely. Educated, nicely spoken, well presented, an attractive woman. I think the Hart mothers would have presented a similar image in a short video like that. So we can't take too much from that.

If the DA is going to bring charges of cigarette burns and pellet gun wounds they're going to have to show doctor's reports and actual photographic evidence. They won't be able to just put the grandma on the stand making allegations of these things, they'll have to produce evidence, and that's what we'll have to wait for. People can't get a fair trial by media, the guilty can present the front of a poor victim, the innocent can suffer rumor-mongering from people who just don't like them very much for no good reason. It's what comes out in trial that will matter.

I will try to find the media report, but it said that the children have been interviewed for something like 6 weeks. When they found the child napping in a bush and brought him home, they saw the conditions. The conditions prompted police to investigate and interview the children. The things the children told them over the past month or so led to the arrests.

 

[Gigglingtoes]

https://apnews.com/c7b4a3e9bb114b08...lice:-Children-said-they-had-punctures,-burns

"Fairfield police Lt. Greg Hurlbut said Monday the abuse was revealed in interviews with the children over the past six weeks."

There it is

 

[Gigglingtoes]

http://www.crimeonline.com/2018/05/...ortured-children-says-father-worshiped-devil/

"“Jonathan worships the devil. He had a devil room, a devil room that he called a meditation room,” the grandmother said.

Police in Fairfield said earlier Monday that the 10 children, ages 4 months to 12 years, had been removed from their home March 31 after their mother, Ina Rogers, 30, reported her oldest child was missing.

http://www.crimeonline.com/2018/05/...nts-that-left-puncture-wounds-burns-bruising/

 

[MsJosie]

Sorry on Ipad cannot link

Daily Mail reporting May 18, 2018 that Turpin we’re in court again

David Turpin plead not guilty to perjury charges, lying on government forms, in the education of the children
DT filled out govt forms saying the children were in a full time private school. Authorities said the children did not know even what medication was.

Louise Turpin plead not guilty to 3 charges of false imprisonment and 1 charge of assault

Next preliminary court date is June 20, 2018. This is a delayed date. It appears the children will testify at the June 20th date.

 

[Shiressleuth]

Sorry on Ipad cannot link

Daily Mail reporting May 18, 2018 that Turpin we’re in court again

David Turpin plead not guilty to perjury charges, lying on government forms, in the education of the children
DT filled out govt forms saying the children were in a full time private school. Authorities said the children did not know even what medication was.

Louise Turpin plead not guilty to 3 charges of false imprisonment and 1 charge of assault

Next preliminary court date is June 20, 2018. This is a delayed date. It appears the children will testify at the June 20th date.

It seems that, to homeschool, all that is needed is for the parent to complete and submit an affidavit. It doesn't seem like it ever gets checked that the parent is doing what they say on the affidavit? I.e. actually homeschooling them properly. In this JA/IR case, if the eldest had not gone missing, noone would ever have noticed anything.

:cow:

 

[RickshawFan]

<snip> How a person goes back to someone like this and has more kids with that person is beyond me.

<snip>

:thinking: :thinking:

Sometimes husbands rape their wives. Sometimes rapes result in pregnancies. People are generally not assaulted by choice.

 

[cybervampira]

Parents in California abuse case plead not guilty; lewd act on a child charges added against father

(CNN) – A Northern California couple pleaded not guilty Thursday to charges stemming from the alleged neglect and torture of their 10 children, with prosecutors adding four lewd acts upon a child counts against the father, according to the Solano County District Attorney’s Office.

 

[Gigglingtoes]

Parents in California abuse case plead not guilty; lewd act on a child charges added against father

Disgusting

 

[cvaldez1975]

Parents in California abuse case plead not guilty; lewd act on a child charges added against father

its not showing now.

 

[cybervampira]

its not showing now.

Don‘t know why they removed it. Content basically is the same here:
Parents in California tor - CNN

 

[cvaldez1975]

Don‘t know why they removed it. Content basically is the same here:
Parents in California tor - CNN

thank you, this case is a mess.