CA - 13 victims, ages 2 to 29, shackled in home by parents, Perris, 15 Jan 2018 #2

[Betty P]

Maybe "touching" or making her do that or pleasuring himself and making her watch....BARF. I think that any penetration would be considered to be rape, but ask Gitana maybe, I'm not a lawyer.

Here's a link to the CA code WRT lewd acts against a minor

http://esfandilawfirm.com/crimes/ca-penal-code-288-lewd-acts-with-a-minor/

To be convicted of Lewd Acts with a Minor Under 14, CA Penal Code 288, the prosecutor must prove:

That you willfully touched any part of a child’s body or that you willfully caused a child to touch his/her own body, your body, or another’s person’s body
That you did so with the intent of arousing, appealing to, or gratifying the lust, passion, or sexual desires of your or of the child

Willfully means deliberately. It does not necessarily mean that you intended to break the law, harm someone, or gain advantage; it simply means that you did something on purpose. This protects people from being convicted of lewd acts with a minor for accidentally touching a child.

Touch means any part of a child’s body, either bare skin or through clothing.

 

[epiphany]

Did the children ever try to escape prior? Not that I know of.

There was an article someone posted recently (last nite or this morn) with a video wherein an older female neighbor from when the family lived

in northern Texas said that one female had run away and was asking for help with getting an apartment and learning how to drive. I believe she

said that an LE officer returned her to the home and that the family moved very quickly after that incident.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

They have hundreds of journals

What? Did the parents keep journals?

ETA - never mind. Am hopelessly behind.

 

[cady]

Maybe.



Given what has emerged, there would certainly be a question as to whether any of the girls knew enough to be able to consent to sex.

Anything like that done to a minor is considered non-consensual. Also, to anyone who is cognitively challenged.....

 

[enelram]

DA answered reporter's question about odd family schedule- up all night, sleep all day...DA said this schedule aided
parents in hiding the crimes- noone in neighborhood was up to witness things.

Father worked a job, they had money coming in. They bought food, parents ate food, but did not share with children.

 

[human]

I believe most (or many, or some, or at least my) states have something called "educational neglect" that parents can be charged with. However, it is written around an assumption that education is about getting a kid to a (public or private) school. Goes hand in hand with truancy. Doesn't work well with home schooling, which may look lots of different ways. Using an online curriculum, for instance, I kid may put in just 4 hours a day and go well beyond grade level expectations. Or, in your example, may put in many hours diligently learning the Bible but never any time in learning anything else. Regulating home schools gets into very touchy area as many people who home school do so out of strong mistrust of anything regulated by the government. Others are strongly committed to corporal punishment and fear losing their children if anyone finds out. And these folks can my quite a noise in state legislatures if anyone proposes regulating their thing.

Children, the last frontier as far as rights. Children are still considered as possessions. I get so enraged over these people who think they can do what they want to their possessions

 

[kimlynn]

What? Did the parents keep journals?

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I think it was the children that kept journals.

 

[enelram]

No, children were assigned work to write journals, 100's of pages. DA said journals will be excellent evidence in trial.

 

[Tricia]

From the Los Angeles Times. My apologies if this article has already been posted.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-perris-couple-children-endangered-20180118-story.html


Formal charges were announced Thursday in the case of the parents accused of torture and child endangerment after authorities said their 13 children were discovered chained and malnourished inside their Perris home.
David Turpin, 56, and Louise Turpin, 49, were charged with multiple felony counts of torture, child abuse, abuse of dependent adults and false imprisonment, Riverside County Dist. Atty. Michael Hestrin announced. David Turpin was also charged with one count of a lewd act on a child by force. If convicted, the couple faces up to 94 years to life in prison. They were arrested this week on suspicion of torture and child endangerment

Like a poster said before me this is becoming one of the biggest cases of child abuse in a home with 2 parents. It is mind-numbing what is coming out about these poor kids and the adults who were tortured too.

I don't even know how to comment on something like this.

 

[Orville Butch]

-Chains and padlocks started out as ropes for punishment; they were rarely out of the restraints as they grew older. Not allowed to use the restroom.

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So those brown stains on the carpet weren't dirt?

 

[Doghairrules]

The parents would buy food but not allow the children to eat it. They would put apple pies, pumpkin pies out on the counter, allow the children to look at it but not eat it.


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That should be a separate charge right there.

 

[Gussified]

You can also use them with wifi if there is no service.

You’d have to know the WiFi password, most likely.

 

[Betty P]

There was an article someone posted recently (last nite or this morn) with a video wherein an older female neighbor from when the family lived

in northern Texas said that one female had run away and was asking for help with getting an apartment and learning how to drive. I believe she

said that an LE officer returned her to the home and that the family moved very quickly after that incident.

This may explain things. When kids try to escape, parents leave town. It could be they recently found out some of the kids were planning this latest escape - hence telling their "friend" that they were planning to move again. Perhaps one of them attempted a failed escape in recent months, so parents were planning to move again. I'm so glad the 17 yo kept trying and finally made it out.

 

[BUF]

What? Did the parents keep journals?

ETA - never mind. Am hopelessly behind.

Yeah, the DA said there are hundreds of journals, writing in them was the only thing the children were allowed to do. I am amazed that these were still found in the house.

 

[Doghairrules]

I can't believe it's worse than I thought, and I already thought it was horrific. I'm stunned. Stunned.

We couldn’t imagine what was coming because we are not monsters. [emoji22]

 

[Doghairrules]

Cannot answer whether the parents were equal partners in the abuse

That may be legally true, but I’ve heard enough to determine they are equally morally responsible. [emoji35]

 

[flourish]

Sounds like the oldest boy took a class or classes......maybe a classmate would have some info.......but he could have escaped and notified someone and didn't. Too scared, I guess.

I thought it was said Mom took him and waited outside then took him home

 

[Inthedetails]

DA answered reporter's question about odd family schedule- up all night, sleep all day...DA said this schedule aided
parents in hiding the crimes- noone in neighborhood was up to witness things.

Father worked a job, they had money coming in. They bought food, parents ate food, but did not share with children.

And to think I have felt guilty over the years when I eat some of the candy "from the Easter bunny" but I never ate all of it!

I can't even imagine eating food without first making sure my kids had enough. Can't even imagine. It's beyond human comprehension to feed yourself while depriving any child. And to taunt them with seeing the food they wouldn't be allowed to eat?!?!?!? I have no words to express my outrage.

jmo

 

[purrito]

And to think I have felt guilty over the years when I eat some of the candy "from the Easter bunny" but I never ate all of it!

I can't even imagine eating food without first making sure my kids had enough. Can't even imagine. It's beyond human comprehension to feed yourself while depriving any child. And to taunt them with seeing the food they wouldn't be allowed to eat?!?!?!? I have no words to express my outrage.

jmo

I know, right?! When my husband was single and had his power turned off and had very little money he made sure his cat got fed before he did. Any loving parent would starve just so their child could have food.

 

[cady]

Amazing that they could WRITE, but I doubt that they could have said anything much that was negative or the journals would have been destroyed and the writer beaten and shackled. Maybe on the few outings that they had, they saw cop cars that say to call 911.....or signs,or something.