CA - 13 victims, ages 2 to 29, shackled in home by parents, Perris, 15 Jan 2018 #3

[Niseyg123]

FEMININE PRODUCTS


Do we take this to mean some of the girls HAD reached puberty?

Wording this nicely...
I have been wondering if any were forced to wrap themselves so that there were no "curves" showing.
(Not that there would be much to conceal due to the malnourished state they were in.)

MOO

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Yea. The feminine products baffled me too. And how awful that they supposedly were not unchained to go to the bathroom! It's possible due to the malnutrition that they weren't having menstrual cycles. Then again if they were they were likely extremely anemic. Just terrible.


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[madamx]

:heartbeat::heartbeat: therapy dogs.

the children HAD dogs in the house and they were taken away from them and one is for adoption.. I don't understand why.. I think the kids should be able to keep their own dogs whom they know and the dogs know them.. its heartbreaking

 

[Monger]

I'm not quite caught up yet. But it didn't take me long to stumble across which child the lewd charge related to. The criminal charge isn't properly redacted and linked in one of these MSM articles.

 

[arkansasmimi]

I really want to know more about the timeline of their life in Texas. I think it was 17 years?

LE said that the "parents" at one point (when? for how long?) didn't even live with their children, and during that time they "occasionally" dropped off food to their abandoned kids.

WTF? Their oldest child obviously couldn't have been older than 16 or 17 at the time. How is it possible nobody noticed the kids were on their own?! Where were the "parents" staying during this time?

Catching up but one place listed for them in Texas was an apartment! So possible that is when? The oldest was born in CA so they have lived almost coast to coast. And only been back CA approximately 8 years. And LT said husband was back with xx company. Lots going to come out I am sure.

 

[Niseyg123]

Here's the court appearance:

https://www.facebook.com/fox6news/videos/10155485615686523/

Time to do the jailhouse rock

Yikes. The Mom is interesting to me. Several really deep breaths. She seems somewhat worried or in shock. He has zero emotion. I'm wondering how he treats/ed her. .


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[LaneGirl]

Problem is that schooled kids are abused all the time, too! Both from home and at the actual school from teachers, coaches, whatever. The problem isn't in the education location. The problem is that adults are not held accountable for abusing children. The same abuser attack over and over. It's nearly impossible to get a child out of the situation. So rather than worrying about where a child is educated, we need to find a way to stop abusers!! They are everywhere! They don't follow laws!

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I've googled and there doesn't seem to be any studies to prove or disprove either of our points.

I don't think anyone is saying abuse doesn't happen to children in public schools. I think we are just saying it's less likely to be reported if they are never in public and the physical abuse can be much worse chaining/starving/beating/burning etc which I think we can agree on.

 

[flourish]

Do we know the children had contact with the dogs? Or are we just hopefully assuming? Can I get a link?

 

[Lilibet]

the children HAD dogs in the house and they were taken away from them and one is for adoption.. I don't understand why.. I think the kids should be able to keep their own dogs whom they know and the dogs know them.. its heartbreaking

LT is considered the owner of the dogs and she released them for adoption. It could be another cruel act on her part or else LE insisted. I do have faith, though, that if these dogs mean a lot to the kids the authorities will find a way to foster the dogs until the kids are in a position to keep them. Right now, they are in hospitals and their future living situations are uncertain. But everything possible is being done for their future IMO.

 

[MzOpinion8d]

FEMININE PRODUCTS


Do we take this to mean some of the girls HAD reached puberty?

Wording this nicely...
I have been wondering if any were forced to wrap themselves so that there were no "curves" showing.
(Not that there would be much to conceal due to the malnourished state they were in.)

MOO

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Well, even if they hadn't been menstruating, they likely will be soon now that they're receiving adequate nutrition under medical supervision.

 

[Meryl12]

I thought it was a wig!

So do I. (I still think it is a wig)!!!!

 

[LaneGirl]

So do I. (I still think it is a wig)!!!!

Wouldn't they take it away in jail? idk

 

[Webby45]

hoarding behaviors, filthy homes with human feces and pee etc all over, several animals in and out of the home to freely urinate and poop all over..eventually bankruptcy, which they werent worried about according to the bankruptcy officials, then they keep blowing money and spending money on toys, eating out, fancy trips to expensive places, renewal of vowels in Vegas, another nice home in cali, several nice expensive cars..did either even have jobs currently??

these people were living in la la land..a land of make believe and fantasy. and were selfish and seem to only have cared about their own pleasure and comfort.

I wonder if they were always messy and nasty or if some event in their lives triggered it?

I think its possible the father could be on the autism spectrum, mom possibly also mentally ill. It could be that when more and more kids were being added to the family, they lacked the skills to take care of them..and the punishments they dealt might have made sense to them ..they might have really rationalized their behavior somehow as it being right.

this whole thing is so bizarre and terrifying and sad

 

[Deleted member 158085]

((Gitana)). What an awful story, start to finish, the only redeeming part being that you knew, and at such a young age, that she was being abused, that it was wrong, and had the empathy & courage & wherewithal to try to help her.

I don't know how old you are, but can identify with being that young (for me many decades ago) & knowing/sensing that someone I knew was terrified of her parents for good reason, but yet, never telling any adult.

When I was a kid, if you told an adult nothing happened anyway as long as the child wasn't getting broken bones. A lot has changed since then.

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[Lilibet]

I think simply having children (plural) triggered the neglect, then the growing patterns of abuse. LE stated the abuse began in Fort Worth. They lived there between 1990 and 1999. They had only a 1.5 yr old when they moved there. By the end of 1993 they had a baby and two toddlers. By 1997 they had 5 kids under the age of 10 and an entrenched collection of horrible parenting tactics.

While piling up child after child certainly was a trigger, there were strange things going on before children ever came along. LT’s younger sister lived with LT/DT in her late teens. LT didn’t allow her to use the phone or have friends over. She and DT watched her shower, she says (link in previous thread somewhere). This in itself was bizarre and abusive, and the rest is history as the family grew.

 

[mymartianromance]

FEMININE PRODUCTS


Do we take this to mean some of the girls HAD reached puberty?

Wording this nicely...
I have been wondering if any were forced to wrap themselves so that there were no "curves" showing.
(Not that there would be much to conceal due to the malnourished state they were in.)

MOO

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Preparing ahead? Considering most of the females are technically at that age, so you're not sure if and when it'll come on, better to just get pads, tampons, cups, etc. ready to go when one of them suddenly pushes the the distress button because there's a blood like substance coming out of their nether regions and not realizing its perfectly normal. (This is assuming they never had one at all before.)

 

[Webby45]

While piling up child after child certainly was a trigger, there were strange things going on before children ever came along. LT’s younger sister lived with LT/DT in her late teens. LT didn’t allow her to use the phone or have friends over. She and DT watched her shower, she says (link in previous thread somewhere). This in itself was bizarre and abusive, and the rest is history as the family grew.

im taking anything their family..both sides..say with a grain of salt because they all seem offtheir rockers too to me.

 

[Safeguard]

Problem is that schooled kids are abused all the time, too! Both from home and at the actual school from teachers, coaches, whatever. The problem isn't in the education location. The problem is that adults are not held accountable for abusing children. The same abuser attack over and over. It's nearly impossible to get a child out of the situation. So rather than worrying about where a child is educated, we need to find a way to stop abusers!! They are everywhere! They don't follow laws!

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Bravo!

 

[Irish_Eyes]

In less enlightened times, people thought molesters were gay people, or maybe inbred rednecks.
In the eighties, it was abductors with white vans who would lure your kids with candy or puppies
In the nineties it was daycare workers
In the aughts, it was Catholic priests
In the teens, it's everyone you never suspected. It's the Jerry Sanduskys and Larry Nassars, and (allegedly) Hollywood actors and directors and stuntmen.... and this dam hasn't even begun breaking yet.

Eventually we're just going to (hopefully) accept that this can happen anywhere to anyone, end the stigma, and step up our vigilance.

 

[Francesca]

Maybe they did go on the rides, but from the pictures we've seen, they all appeared to be staged. Most people will take photos of their kids on the rides.

I would hope they did more than just take a few photos here and there...Disneyland isn't cheap! It would be a waste of money to get into the park, take some photos and then leave!

IMO

The daytime shackling began around 2010, and all the Disney photos are after that. I think going from military marching at night to a daytime ride on the teacups would have been way too much for those kids to handle. The lights, the motion, the visual stimulation would have been overwhelming. I'm not venturing an opinion whether they did or didn't participate in the rides, it just doesn't bother me that they might have missed out on that at the time. Let them go back to Disneyland and do some rides when they have put on a bit of weight and adjusted to daylight and crowds and basic social interaction in public.

And from what we know about the parents' budgeting strategies, I think paying entry fee for a few staged photos, bulking up on merchandise and then leaving without doing the rides would have fit the pattern we've already seen.

 

[RickshawFan]

I’d DVR’d the NBC Nightly News this evening and just watched it a few minutes ago. Here’s a quote from that broadcast about the Turpin children. .

“The victims are so weak that they’re receiving antibiotics, nutrition by IV.
So malnourished, they could still go into shock.
The Turpin’s 29 year old daughter, weighed just 82 pounds.”




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The feeding protocol might be tried and true in regimens for anorexia recovery.

The “shock” potential reminds me of the death of Karen Carpenter. She had anorexia and died from potassium deficiency crisis?