CA - 13 victims, ages 2 to 29, shackled in home by parents, Perris, 15 Jan 2018 #3

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  • #961
That picture of LT with their oldest daughter as a chubby-cheeked baby is particularly heartbreaking, knowing what lie ahead for her....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5289527/David-Louise-Turpin-eloped-16.html

All of the pictures in the above mentioned link are tough . Did anyone happen to see this sentence in that same article? “Hestrin said the parents chained their offspring to their beds after they discovered one had previously tried to break out of the home on Muir Woods Road that the couple bought for $351,000 in 2014. “
So 3 something years ago... maybe 4 depending on the month, was when one tried to escape. Interesting


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  • #962
So perhaps I'm off on my timeline here but she wouldn't have been 30 in the Thing photo would she? Wasn't this taken at least 5 years ago if not more?

I'm no longer debating our point as we've agreed to disagree:). I'm asking an honest question as to the timeline of these photos as I can't seem to find dates on these photos.

The DM has dates for most of the photos: The Things photo posted to facebook April 2016. Makes sense because it includes the baby. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5272703/Police-13-siblings-chained-California-home.html
 
  • #963
She is 29 today. I’m not sure if that photo is 2015 or 2013, . Either way she would have been 24 and looking 14.

The 2 year old is in the “thing” photo so it must be from 2015?


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  • #964
Sorry I should have linked at the time, this one https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=V_FShQVnJIw

Edit: I see someone else already shared it, I replied before I finished reading!

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One thing I noticed with this video is that the "father" (and I use that term loosely) did not snap his fingers unless LT was looking at him, when she looked away he stopped, but each time she turned her head from him to look at the camera he stopped snapping his fingers. It struck me as not a normal behavior. I feel that she is the one controlling everything in that home. He is just as guilty and he did unspeakable things and should not be let off any way shape or form but I do think she is very much in control of everything he and their children did.
I am very happy that one girl had the courage to break free and get help. She does deserve the person of the year award!
 
  • #965
The escapee is 17 and the charge was for under 14. The kids under 14 are a 12 year old who looks 7, an 11 year old and the 2 year old, none of them would be fertile either due to age or due to malnutrition.

Do we know for sure that this charge relates to a child that is presently under 14 years of age or could the charge relate to one of the older siblings who was under the age of 14 at the time the act occurred?
 
  • #966
  • #967
never heard of that place will look at it
Still catching up and I do not know if this has been addressed yet.

In regards to Northrup Grumman and Lockheed.
If he was an engineer with either, he would have had to obtain a security clearance which does not involve any mental exam. Some jobs, require pollygraphs. But that is very job specific. And to be hired by NG and obtain a clearance (which is usually TS+), he would have to be educated and skilled and somewhat intelligent.

My husband works for NG. Went from AD military with Space Command to NG as a contractor for Space Command, doing the same job in the same location with a super high security clearance (In Colorado). While I knew it was a long shot, I asked him about this man - if there was any buzz like maybe someone ran into him at a NG/LM location here or there. His answer was no (I expected that) but he said he has worked with some eccentric people who are just 'weird' but are super intelligent and great at their jobs. All the others would 'gossip' about these oddballs, like high school girls (he said). He is not one, like me, to wonder what people are up to once they leave work.

Regarding the clearance, you have to be careful with your finances. It is a national security issue. If one with a clearance is in major debt, there is the probability of going to 'the enemy' to trade secrets for $$. It happens more than one can imagine. I am wondering with all the debt and bankruptcies if his clearance was revoked, causing him to be fired and that is why he was not actively working at the present time. My husband knows of two people who have lost their NG jobs for severe financial issues. But he didnt know the details.

Who knows what DL's 'engineer' job was. The closest NG locations were over an hour away from their Perris home.
 
  • #968
I am looking at the upper range. Louise married at 16, but her first pregnancy not until 20? and then a 3-4 year gap before the next? Makes me wonder if there might have been some other, older sibs that got away.

The gap between #12 and #13 surprises me less as Louise by then had moved into a high risk stage, based both on age and number of prior pregnancies.

One other little question I had is about #13. Hard to tell in the pics, but does that one have blonde hair? Or just one of those kids who looks blonde because they have very little hair. All the other girls appear to be almost twin-like in their hair and features.

No answers. Just questions.

I wonder about other siblings too.

Also, just an observation I had, and it’s different than yours and others that I have read on this thread, in the Vegas marriage renewal photos, the youngest girls all appear to ME to have lighter hair. Maybe it’s just the way it’s styled, but certainly stood out to me. Had me thinking about who was the true mother of some of them. But I digress... also in that link is LT very pregnant.
All just my own personal opinion.


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  • #969
They were definitely at Disney. Those photos were taken by the photographers that are stationed in those specific areas. I have the exact same photos with my family.

I don't think the kids were taken and allowed to enjoy Disney, though.

I agree! I think it’s just like the food. It was for LT and DT and not the children. They taunted them with it as well and snapped the photos to keep up their social media facade. MOO.
 
  • #970
I was thinking that the lewd act could have been performed on any of the girls, considering that the oldest was 29, it could have been one (or some, if not (and hopefully not) all) of the older girls, beginning when they were <14.

Oops. Didn't see your post before posting mine. Apologies.
 
  • #971
Not a Dr. &#128522; wouldn’t she have to stop breastfeeding to get pregnant. Just my opinion that is why the young one is healthy.

Old wives' tale. I have Irish twins because I believed that. &#128578;
 
  • #972
The 2 year old is in the &#8220;thing&#8221; photo so it must be from 2015?


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So she is maybe 27 there. And looks 14.

It breaks my heart in a million pieces. I hate that photo. My eyes always go directly to her. I&#8217;m haunted by it.
 
  • #973
Do we know for sure that this charge relates to a child that is presently under 14 years of age or could the charge relate to one of the older siblings who was under the age of 14 at the time the act occurred?

I 100% think that the lewdness charge is related to a 14-year-old at the time of the act.
 
  • #974
So perhaps I'm off on my timeline here but she wouldn't have been 30 in the Thing photo would she? Wasn't this taken at least 5 years ago if not more? I'm no longer debating our point as we've agreed to disagree:). I'm asking an honest question as to the timeline of these photos as I can't seem to find dates on these photos.
Someone asked pages ago for the photo, so here is the Thing photo where they are all in order:

https://www.websleuths.com/forums/c...20180117/5f52ecbc73b01fa05a2caaa4c4c0a268.jpg

#13 is now two years old, will be three in 2018.
So this Thing photo is from sometime in late 2015 after the arrival of #13.

ancestry.com from a post in our first thread:

David born Oct 1961
married Feb 1985, he was 23
Louise was 16 at time of marriage, likely born in 1968
#1 first child born July 1988, then
#2 Feb 1992
#3 Nov 1993
#4 Nov 1995
#5 May 1997

end of ancestry.com info... guessing on middle children:
Thing#6 (b 1998)
Thing#7 (b 1999)
Thing#8 (b 2000)
Thing#9 (b 2002)
Thing#10 (b 2003)
Thing#11 (b 2004)
Thing#12 (b 2006)
... #13 born 2015

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  • #975
Someone asked pages ago for the photo, so here is the Thing photo where they are all in order: https://www.websleuths.com/forums/c...20180117/5f52ecbc73b01fa05a2caaa4c4c0a268.jpg #13 is now two years old, will be three in 2018. So this Thing photo is from sometime in late 2015 after the arrival of #13. ancestry.com from a post in our first thread: David born Oct 1961 married Feb 1985, he was 23 Louise was 16 at time of marriage, likely born in 1968 #1 first child born July 1988, then #2 Feb 1992 #3 Nov 1993 #4 Nov 1995 #5 May 1997 ...guessing on middle children: Thing#6 (b 1998) Thing#7 (b 1999) Thing#8 (b 2000) Thing#9 (b 2002) Thing#10 (b 2003) Thing#11 (b 2004) Thing#12 (b 2006) ... #13 born 2015 hth

Thank you!! This is a new photo I hadn't see before.
 
  • #976
All of the pictures in the above mentioned link are tough . Did anyone happen to see this sentence in that same article? “Hestrin said the parents chained their offspring to their beds after they discovered one had previously tried to break out of the home on Muir Woods Road that the couple bought for $351,000 in 2014. “
So 3 something years ago... maybe 4 depending on the month, was when one tried to escape. Interesting


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Or is it that 2014 is when they bought that house?
 
  • #977
So age of consent in West Virginia is 16 years old and LT was 16 when DT signed her out of school. However they applies only to sex between minors. DT’s age would have made this statutory rape unless they were married. His purpose during that trip was to convince her to elope.


https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/west-virginia-statutory-rape-laws.htm

https://www.thesurvivoralliance.com/forallies/legal-age-consent-50-states/

Very interesting, I think, that LT ran away from home at 16, and then became obsessed with preventing her kids from leaving home.
 
  • #978
Yes and remember early on his wife chastised the reporter and said something like "I wish you all would stop reporting this stuff. My son's family are a very respectable family." um, okay.

DT parents are in their 80s. I give them a small pass.
 
  • #979
Watching DT in court, he does NOT look like the same man in the Vegas Videos, IMO. At the 'wedding' he appears passive. He has the character of....a Disney character. All childish and boyish. She reminds me of Minnie Mouse in character, in the Vegas video. They were playing 'roles' for the camera IMO. I dont believe those were their real characters, at all.

DT sitting there in that court room, his face looks totally different. He looks like he would be a mean authoritarian type.

Watching LT, she appears to love the attention (in a Jodi Arias kind of creepy way). She appeared that way in the Vegas video. Probably loved the attention in person, out in public with all those kids. You know they had to have had attention, even only just stares. She is way too 'perky', even with a stone cold face, for my liking.

DT is in shackles. Wonder if he has given LE any physical trouble. I cant tel if LT is in shackles. The cam zooms in on DTs midsection. That is not a hairband, those are chains. Fitting.

All just my opinion, based on the arraignment video and still photos.
 
  • #980
Very interesting, I think, that LT ran away from home at 16, and then became obsessed with preventing her kids from leaving home.

Have to see what law was a t time they married. They married Feb 11, 1985.
 
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