CA - 13 victims, ages 2 to 29, shackled in home by parents, Perris, 15 Jan 2018 #6

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  • #101
Especially odd considering that the media is reporting that their current dogs are healthy and appear to be well taken care of.

There's a picture of her pregnant and standing next to a crib. The crib's a nice looking, expensive one. The light-colored carpet is clean and there's no sign of garbage or debris in the photo. It's a huge contrast to what this guy is reporting about their old house.
I don't think it's odd. They treated the dogs and cats the same way as the kids. Got them as puppies, I think, and then when they were grown and the newness wore off, they became disposable. Someone said that the current dogs were still fairly young. I believe they would have eventually been abandoned as well.

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  • #102
I wonder why they were going to move... It doesn't sound like the neighbours or anyone else were onto them ��

This couple had no long term stability in their history, IMO. Their whole lives were chaotic.
Or it could have been:
Hard living in the feces and urine infested 4 yr. old house.
It was time to let someone else clean up the crap and waste in the home
They were both bored
Ok. is closer to L.V. for their next vow re-newal
Time for another foreclosure or BK -
Someone was on to them
 
  • #103
I don't think it's odd. They treated the dogs and cats the same way as the kids. Got them as puppies, I think, and then when they were grown and the newness wore off, they became disposable. Someone said that the current dogs were still fairly young. I believe they would have eventually been abandoned as well.

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When you look at it like that, it does make a certain amount of sense but I guess I still think it's strange. :-)
 
  • #104
The Elvis impersonator on the family:

"“Watching them now it’s kind of haunting and disturbing,” Ripley told the Associated Press. “They all looked young and thin but I figured it was just their lifestyle. Maybe the activities they did, maybe because of their religious beliefs. I didn’t get that in depth with them but I knew they were a fun family.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...of-strange-behavior-family-and-neighbors-say/

Some people, not necessarily here, have publicly wondered why he didn't make a call to someone. It appears as though, while he might have thought they were a little different, he didn't see anything that would make him pause and consider abuse. My guess is that the entire amount of time he spent with them is seen on tape and while they are a little awkward and shy, they DO appear to be having fun and getting into the shtick.

I want to send them a card or something but I also want to wait. I'm afraid they're going to get all of this attention in the beginning but then, as the year progresses, it will slowly die off and that's when they'll need it the most. I have experience with that. My son died (it was sudden, there was no illness) 7 years ago. For the first few weeks, people were over every day. They were cleaning the house, packing up his toys for me, bringing over dinner, and just sitting with me and visiting. By about the 6-month mark, however, they'd all moved on and I was left almost entirely alone. Unfortunately, that's when I needed people the most. In a lot of traumatic situations, you're kind of running on adrenaline in the beginning; everything is moving so quickly. It takes weeks, and sometimes months, to digest everything and start processing it. The rest of the world has moved on but you're just starting to open your eyes, in a sense. I am therefore going to keep up with this family and try to stay abreast of what's going on so that I can perhaps send something later on, once things have kind of settled and they're not being inundated with so much at once. They're probably going to need it then, too. :-(

Thank you for this post, mtnlites. And I'm so sorry for your loss.

I'm going to take your advice here and give it some time too. You're totally right on this.
 
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This couple had no long term stability in their history, IMO. Their whole lives were chaotic.
Or it could have been:
Hard living in the feces and urine infested 4 yr. old house.
It was time to let someone else clean up the crap and waste in the home
They were both bored
Ok. is closer to L.V. for their next vow re-newal
Time for another foreclosure or BK -
Someone was on to them

They were definitely closer to NV by being in CA than they would have been in OK.

NV and CA border each other.
 
  • #107
Escape from hell: Dramatic video shows 13 house of horror children being rescued by police after years of being being kept chained to their beds and tortured by their evil parents:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5301393/Video-shows-moment-13-children-rescued-police.html

One of them is running! :tantrum:


Bless their little hearts. those little legs were running so fast I thought they speeded up the video, but no. They knew
they were running for their lives......Freedom.
 
  • #108
Bless their little hearts. those little legs were running so fast I thought they speeded up the video, but no. They knew
they were running for their lives......Freedom.

Ah I know. It both hurts my heart that they wanted to get out, of their own family home, that badly. But also warms me that they are finally free as of that point in time.
 
  • #109
They were definitely closer to NV by being in CA than they would have been in OK.

NV and CA border each other.

Yea, I figured that, but it was also said as a joke.
 
  • #110
The boy that went to college, was he allowed to shower more often? I'm asking because they seemed to be all about appearances and it wouldn't be a good look if he was the smelly kid in class.

Has anyone who was in his classes spoken to the media at all?
 
  • #111
The boy that went to college, was he allowed to shower more often? I'm asking because they seemed to be all about appearances and it wouldn't be a good look if he was the smelly kid in class.

Has anyone who was in his classes spoken to the media at all?

Based on what J#1's fellow kindergartners said about her at a young age, I would guess not.
 
  • #112
The boy that went to college, was he allowed to shower more often? I'm asking because they seemed to be all about appearances and it wouldn't be a good look if he was the smelly kid in class.

Has anyone who was in his classes spoken to the media at all?
I don't know, the Taco Bell employees said they all smelled, so sounds like none (including the parents) either bathed more often or they just carried the home stench with them.

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  • #113
I pointed out earlier the multiple failures here, but it bears repeating for those who may not see how important it is to report animal abuse of any kind and to make sure that animal control follows up.

I've been in houses like this, and here's what should have happened in this situation.

Animal control goes in to check out report of potentially abandoned /neglected animals.

Police come in with AC and gain access, act as witnesses.

Animals removed.

Health department notified regarding house, even though it appears they have moved.

Interviews with the neighbors reveal that a disabled adult with a caretaker had been living there.

Names of who lived there are found out within the hour and are tracked down to next residence.

Family services is on it because disabled person forced to live in filth.

All because someone called about barking dogs in the house with no care.


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Yes, but there are no animal control officers in rural Johnson County, Texas, where the Turpins lived at the time.

http://www.johnsoncountytx.org/publ...gement/johnson-county-animal-issues-committee
 
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The boy that went to college, was he allowed to shower more often? I'm asking because they seemed to be all about appearances and it wouldn't be a good look if he was the smelly kid in class.

Has anyone who was in his classes spoken to the media at all?
Yes someone did because I remember a fellow student saying they had a potluck in class and he stood next to the table the whole time and ate plate after plate of food.

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  • #116
Oh wow, what a disaster that would have been if they made it to Oklahoma. An old acquaintance of mine moved to Ok.
a few years back. Seems there's lots of very cheap land there and lots of very rural areas where there would be no
eyes watching the family. Wonder who the defense contractor is there?

His current employer, Northrop Grumman, has a facility there, in Oklahoma City. The ABC report said he was being transferred by his employer.
 
  • #117
The boy that went to college, was he allowed to shower more often? I'm asking because they seemed to be all about appearances and it wouldn't be a good look if he was the smelly kid in class.

Has anyone who was in his classes spoken to the media at all?

Yes, a college classmate made a statement to the police early on. (Don't have link.) Said he was quiet and kept to himself, but they had a class potluck party, and he stayed by the food table, eating plate after plate of food.
 
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The Assist program can clarify the transferability of courses between various colleges and universities in California: www.assist.org

He enrolled in 15 courses and completed 14 of them.

11 of the completed courses qualify for credit in the CA State University system, and 6 of them qualify for credit in the University of CA system. Several of the qualifying courses are selected from lists of required courses for transfer to one or both university systems.

The 3 courses that do not qualify for credit transfer are considered high school level. However, the course in high school is accomplished in one academic year while the course in community college is completed in one semester. Students lacking official records often complete these classes quickly as prerequisites for higher level courses or as refresher courses.

While most automotive technology coursework at community colleges leads to an A.S. (Associate of Science) degree, there is a pilot program in California for a Bachelor of Science in Automotive Management which combines automotive technology expertise with marketing, management and other skills related specifically to the automotive industry. The upper division curriculum is designed by the CA State University system.

The CA community college system uses grading standards commensurate with the university systems. They also often use the exact same textbook, syllabus and standards for a given course.

I took a CC elementary algebra class for 2 weeks. I got every answer right except one in all of the tests. Although the class was considered “on campus”, it was not. I could get questions answered at certain times in the math lab (from some kind of non-credentialed individual), but all the work except for tests you did yourself. The tests were whenever you wanted and taken in the lab.

Several classes later, I still only had that one question wrong. I took 3 math classes, including trigonometry with the same do-it-yourself method.

Ergo we can’t assume these classes actually took place on campus.

I am professionally familiar with the transfer of CC credits to college. They may have the same numbers and use the same texts, but they are not considered the same education. They can be taught very well, but they’re not considered to have the same rigor.

We’re talking Algebra 1, 8th grade math in the American system (for 10-year-olds in the system I was in, in an African mission school). We are not talking impressive skill levels to get into them. I would guess mom was over her head education-wise at this point. And I would guess the lower end courses were required for stuff like auto mechanics.

Archaeology, on most campuses, would include elements and strategies for digging. It might very well include learning about bones. I don’t believe anything in this family, and anything in this transcript, doesn’t have an ulterior motive.

And that might even include a career as an Elvis impersonator (guitar and all) to bring in the bucks.
 
  • #120
Hi, Niner. :)

Yep, I think those first childless years are strange too.

About #1 being born in CA. That's also definitely interesting. They married in VA in 1985 (almost literally at gunpoint, after being dragged back from Texas). They supposedly returned to Texas after that, and maybe they did.

It seems possible that either they went to Texas anticipating he could find a job, but couldn't and went off to CA in search of one, or, that the job he first had in Texas transferred him back and forth to CA.

#1 was born in 1988. She attended kindergarten through 3rd grade in a school near Fort Worth, Texas, so they had to be living there by 1993 or so, and iirc from the bankruptcy papers, I think they were there in 1992.

Perhaps not coincidentally, it appears that bankruptcy #1 happened in 1992 (bankruptcy #2 filing mentions bankruptcy #1, as has their bankruptcy lawyer, but states that the records for it can't be located).

It sure sounds like they struggled financially (for whatever reasons) from the git go.

This is way out of left field, but maybe she was visiting Disney and went into labor there?

I don't know if it was a "thing" 30 years ago, but women who want to bring on labor go walking. Birth boards these days are full of women going places hoping the walking will "get this baby out!".
 
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