CA - 13 victims, ages 2 to 29, shackled in home by parents, Perris, 15 Jan 2018 #6

[arkansasmimi]

I actually don’t think we know who took the pics of the bed with zip ties. The current homeowner said he found the pics. So it could have been LT/DT, the kids maybe trying to leave an SOS, the bank during the foreclosure, etc. But yes, major props to whoever took them.

Zip ties? Article I read with a Polaroid said appeared to be a rope on bed frame where were zip ties?

 

[raeann]

It won't be that bad. It's not like they're imprisoned. They'll get exposure to more kids this way and make friends. They can visit each other till the older ones can take over care.

You are correct, they will be allowed and encouraged to remain in contact with each other. This decision to have two foster families is very likely a GOOD decision. As a CASA worker, I can assure that these children will need many hours of one on one attention and care. They will each have multiple appointments for medical, dental, and vision checks and services, physical and emotional therapies, etc. They will need extensive help with educational and life skills. It would be nearly impossible for one foster family to schedule, transport and provide access to all of these services for six children and still have the time or energy to provide some kind of a stable and relaxing family home atmosphere. The adult victims will likely adapt well to an assisted living facility with trained and experienced staff who can teach them self care skills and guide them into a more independent future. That is what they are trained to do, that is what the facility itself is designed for providing.

 

[Bill Carson]

Idk if this has been brought up, but isn’t this their first CA address?

https://www.greatschools.org/california/murrieta/26145-City-Day-School/

ETA it appears to be another homeschool?

I would be a shame if people started leaving reviews. [cough, cough]

 

[rsd1200]

I hope that’s not true about an assisted living facility for the adults. [emoji22]

Assisted living, if it is a reputable place, is usually for adults who can live on their own with some assistance. We have a very nice one here that some locals have checked themselves into, when they can't take care of a home and property, any longer. My fil is in the the care center part but the assisted living part, has activities, outings, etc...

It might help them to be in one, to assist them in learning to live alone, get their physical therapy, and ensure that their diet is properly seen to also. If all of the adults go to the same place, they will have each other, and can mingle with others there. I'm sure that those over the case will ensure that the facility will be top notch, and, when ready, they can check themselves out, as they are adults. They need to focus on themselves for awhile, but an apartment on their own, or being told what to do in another home setting, may not be best for them. I'd also think that they had some say so in the decision.

 

[Rocco]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9gfimgjeXk

Thanks, Jax!!!

 

[disgruntled]

Did not know about the Caribbean. I wonder how,they fared through the hurricanes.

Here is a cult in Wisconsin. Operating in secrecy for decades, http://www.wsaw.com/home/headlines/19083509.html

I never heard of this and it is very close to my home.

 

[Rocco]

Zip ties? Article I read with a Polaroid said appeared to be a rope on bed frame where were zip ties?

Someone posted a close up of the restraints on the bed and they look like zip ties, not a rope. I'll try to find it for you if you want to see it.

 

[newsjunkie]

Assisted living, if it is a reputable place, is usually for adults who can live on their own with some assistance. We have a very nice one here that some locals have checked themselves into, when they can't take care of a home and property, any longer. My fil is in the the care center part but the assisted living part, has activities, outings, etc...

It might help them to be in one, to assist them in learning to live alone, get their physical therapy, and ensure that their diet is properly seen to also. If all of the adults go to the same place, they will have each other, and can mingle with others there. I'm sure that those over the case will ensure that the facility will be top notch, and, when ready, they can check themselves out, as they are adults. They need to focus on themselves for awhile, but an apartment on their own, or being told what to do in another home setting, may not be best for them. I'd also think that they had some say so in the decision.

Logically I get the benefits of Assisted Living and I hope you are right about them having a say in where they go. It just makes me sad that we heard early on they had asked if they would get to stay together and they haven’t.

 

[arkansasmimi]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/california-children-found-shackled-in-home-placed-in-foster-care/ CBS is reporting that the adults will be moved to an assisted living facility this week and that the six children will be moved to two foster homes.

That's good news. Hopefully that means they weren't as bad as first thought. Sunday was 1 week in hospital, reading comments I thought would be long time refeeding or whatever it was called. Assisted living is great, meaning can care for self but assistance is there.

 

[disgruntled]

What are the theories so far on why there is such a big gap between the 10 year old and the 2 year old (other than the baby being one of the older daughter's kids)?

My theory is they discovered birth control, sowed their wild oats and then decided to start over with a fresh new toy.

 

[rsd1200]

I don’t trust the siblings, just to preface.

LT/DT had a ton of dvds in the garage, and not just Disney dvds. I think it’s likely the kids were exposed to those DVD’s, and like you said, other misc TV experiences. I wouldn’t be surprised if they had some sort of cable in the house, for LT/DTs enjoyment if nothing else. The tv could have played in the background. JMO

The Murrietta house did have a satellite dish on the house, but, I guess it may have been left by the previous owner.

 

[arkansasmimi]

Please forgive me if this has been posted and I haven't seen it just yet.

I read something in Time Magazine. At least I thought it was Time.It was online and it came on my Facebook feed.

It was about a woman who went to grade school with the oldest Turpin girl.The 29-year-old. She talked about how horrible she and her classmates treated her because she smelled. Now she finds out the truth and is devastated thinking about this poor little girl and what she went through at school and at home.

This was before they were homeschooling their kids.

Now, I am wondering if what I read wasn't made up because I can't find it anywhere. It had a picture of the girl in grade school and her real name. The picture is fine because it is so old. If we can find it we can black out the first name.

Again, my apologies if I have disrupted the thread. I will report myself to the owner and await my eventual banning.


Thanks
Tricia

I have seen it posted on threads. Since it was before home schooling, wonder if that why they started homeschooling? Serious thought.

 

[Confusion]

I'm just going to comment on a few things without quoting, but I'll try to keep things general.

The first thing is in reference to receiving financial aid for the son's college classes. Although the father did have a good salary, they take into consideration the size of the family, too. He may, or may not, have qualified for grants, but I'm fairly sure they'd be able to get student loans (which were unlikely to have ever been repaid.

Another thing is the number of charges they each have. From what I've seen so far, it looks like one of the older 12 managed to escape most of the willful harm to a child by him, but was still tortured, endangered and imprisoned. It also looks like LT had been mistreating all of the children for quite a while before he started - unless there are more charges coming in the future.

The weights are another thing I wanted to mention, although it's not all concerning this case. None of the girls appear to be very tall, even LT is only shown as 5'0" on the court records; however, bone size, muscle mass and other things can affect how healthy different people of the same height and weight are. I know that I never got to a normal weight until I was 30 and had 2 kids. Before that, I was usually considered to be 20-30+ pounds underweight. I'm 5'4" and after being measured have been told I'm on the cut-off between medium and large frame. Shortly after my first son was born, I was at 101 pounds (my doctor wanted me at 130-135). I was told that I had approximately 8% body fat. Like RAISINISBACK said, I very seldom got hungry, and often had to be reminded to eat. I'd wake up with a severe headache and feeling nauseous, and someone would ask me how long it had been since I'd eaten; half the time it had been 3 or 4 days. In spite of that, I passed the physical to become a mail carrier, and was considered to be a "runner" because I walked so fast. I think a big difference is that when I ate, I tended to eat fairly healthy foods, and I was able to get exercise. I'm not saying that these 12 weren't in bad shape, I think I'm being more selfish and saying that I never realized that my own health may have been messed up when I felt my best. MOO

 

[rsd1200]

The info from school mates breaks my heart. I would be a friend to all of those angels.

I truly hope someday in the future they make friends and get to live a real life.

we do know the son returned to school though, because his transcript proves he took several classes. Maybe he just dropped out of the music class? But why would mom continue to send him to school knowing he would interact with people?
i hope people were kind to him.

BBM
Because he asked her before making a friendship.

 

[Bill Carson]

Placemarker

 

[arkansasmimi]

Yes, you are right. It looks like they defined that as a private school prior to moving to Perris. I found the excel spreadsheets of all Private Schools by year that is posted here https://www.cde.ca.gov/ds/si/ps/index.asp and it has the school you found on rows of the Excel spreadsheets of some of the previous school years with Turpin's name listed.

Makes me wonder how long they home schooled in Texas r. I don't know enough about homeschooling to know how to look. Since the 2 children of neighbors didn't appear to know anything about for years prior to 2010 moving. So the making fun of in Ft Worth could be why homeschool. Did they attend school in Rio Vista at all?

 

[buttonbaby]

Looking at the cut is pretty interesting. You almost have to be looking for it to see. Especially if you drove up in a vehicle or perked out curtain. Plus the hedges. Or they may not have known how to remove screen. I have had problems myself with those blasted things! Pretty smart and thankfully it worked

Eta did you see size of hole? That was shocking to me too.

Does anyone have a link that shows the cut screen? TIA.

 

[Mamamerced]

[/I]
Sounds like many conservative christian gulags well known to fundie-watchers. One that comes to mind is in Indiana and also is still open. The stories about hormones used to stop menstruation (as well as the starvation methods) are horrifying. @disgruntled -- kudos to you for continuing to help these brave and innocent young women.[/QUOTE]

I'm having a little problem with this "conservative Christian" concept. What a masquerade, huh?
We need to stop worrying so much about homeschooling and focus instead on these, ahem, "conservative Christian" reformatory schools. What a load of garbage.

 

[rsd1200]

Logically I get the benefits of Assisted Living and I hope you are right about them having a say in where they go. It just makes me sad that we heard early on they had asked if they would get to stay together and they haven’t.

I know. It's time for the adults to learn to adult though, and for the teens to be teens, and the little ones to be little ones. I can't see one home being able to provide all of that. I know some foster parents and they don't usually take over two small ones at a time. They have adopted over the years and even those kids still need a lot of care because of their early childhoods. I think the burden would just be too much for a single foster home. They are going to need both mental and physical therapy, some may need different dietary needs, and, interaction with other folks their age will be good too. They don't seem to have had that and to learn to live independently, I think the adults, especially, need to learn independence. Most folks the adult's age have left home. Putting the kids into school will help them with catching up socially. My ex, when he had to go to the one here, said he still missed his home, but he'd had an actual home of his own, but he made new friends there, and everyone up at the assisted living center just LOVED him ... (He was sober) He hadn't been that active in years, even minus the leg! When he passed, the center was so nice, there were so many folks who wanted to come to his visitation, that they loaded everyone up and brought them. I think they'll do well, they'll all be wrapped up in learning to navigate this world, and actually talk to people outside of their family. If they put them all together, they may tend to band together, and not venture out.

 

[ElizabethAnne]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5356477/turpin-family-13-kids-starved-believed-god-called-on-them/ is the one I saw. If you click on the photo of the window with a star on it in order to expand it, it looks to me that the very bottom center has been cut parallel a few inches above the bushes.