CA - 4 Pepperdine students killed in crash, Malibu, Oct 2023 *arrest*

[waldojabba]

I don't believe that AJ is going for a plea deal.

AJ was very clear when telling Billy Bush that FB did nothing that was criminal which is quite different from wanting the 4 murder charges downgraded, a motion that most defense attorneys automatically file for whatever the charge.
imo

I listened to it when I posted it but if I remember correctly

- AJ is adamant that the charges by the former DA were politically motivated and the 22 yr old was overcharged
- He indicates he’s going to chat with the new DA/ their people and get the charges reduced
- AJ is nothing if not strategic - He throws out how in the 1970’s ish the pres of Pepperdine killed 2 people in car accident also on this road - but the pres was drunk driving unlike FB who was sober - The pres got involuntary manslaughter and a 4 year suspended sentence
- AJ does say that his client did nothing criminal - strategic or real?
- His clients actions and poor judgement killed 4 people and injured 1 - kind of irrefutable ? Hard to call it a misdemeanor or whatever charge that is not a criminal charge

My thought is that even with charges reduced to the lowest for killing 4 people in an accident where you are at fault - which I think is vehicular manslaughter - ?- that’s still criminal right? And I don’t see any way a jury doesn’t convict him from where I sit now. The kid is not a sympathetic defendant.

So if Alan can get the new DA to go with that lesser charge, along the same lines as the Pres of Pepperdine - with a suspended sentence. Perhaps with an added caveat that after x amount of time the felony goes off his record if that’s possible. Backroom deal done.
AJ seems to know this DA or his people. That’s what really pushes me to a negotiated plea. I don’t think the press or jury will be kind to this kid.

I am prob all wet but that’s my thought process at this point

JMO

 

[mickey2942]

I listened to it when I posted it but if I remember correctly

- AJ is adamant that the charges by the former DA were politically motivated and the 22 yr old was overcharged
- He indicates he’s going to chat with the new DA/ their people and get the charges reduced
- AJ is nothing if not strategic - He throws out how in the 1970’s ish the pres of Pepperdine killed 2 people in car accident also on this road - but the pres was drunk driving unlike FB who was sober - The pres got involuntary manslaughter and a 4 year suspended sentence
- AJ does say that his client did nothing criminal - strategic or real?
- His clients actions and poor judgement killed 4 people and injured 1 - kind of irrefutable ? Hard to call it a misdemeanor or whatever charge that is not a criminal charge

My thought is that even with charges reduced to the lowest for killing 4 people in an accident where you are at fault - which I think is vehicular manslaughter - ?- that’s still criminal right? And I don’t see any way a jury doesn’t convict him from where I sit now. The kid is not a sympathetic defendant.

So if Alan can get the new DA to go with that lesser charge, along the same lines as the Pres of Pepperdine - with a suspended sentence. Perhaps with an added caveat that after x amount of time the felony goes off his record if that’s possible. Backroom deal done.
AJ seems to know this DA or his people. That’s what really pushes me to a negotiated plea. I don’t think the press or jury will be kind to this kid.

I am prob all wet but that’s my thought process at this point

JMO

Exactly. Just up the road, Rebecca Grossman killed two children, Jacob and Mark Iskander. Rebecca Grossman is now convicted, 15 years to life. She filed appeals to get the case thrown out before trial, and now, still filing an appeal from prison. Chowchilla, California is such a godforsaken place.

I don't see a plea deal less than this. And that would be a gift.