CA CA - Baker, BlkFem UP5820, 15-30, hit by car on I-15, Aug'76

[CarlK90245]

I noticed that NCMEC did a new reconstruction for this UID, so I am starting a new thread, though I have no possibles.

I did the previous one for DoeNet, and since the PM photo didn't include the top of her head, I had to guess what her forehead and hair looked like.

The two recons look pretty similar in terms of overall look. Although I was a little unsure about resemblance when I did the recon, I feel much better about it after seeing the NCMEC's version.

The Doe Network:
Case File 698UFCA http://doenetwork.org/cases/698ufca.html
NamUs UP Case #5820 WARNING POSTMORTEM PHOTOS AT LINK https://identifyus.org/cases/5820

Unidentified Black Female

* The victim was discovered on August 28, 1976 in Baker, San Bernardino County, California
* Date of Death: August 28, 1976

Vital Statistics

* Estimated age: 15-30 years old
* Approximate Height and Weight: 5'6"; 160 lbs.
* Distinguishing Characteristics: Short to medium length black hair (4” average), in afro style; hazel eyes. Obese abdomen. She had a 1.75” scar just below the naval, a 0.5” scar to the right breast, and a 1” irregular scar over the abdominal area. Earlobes had healed perforations. Fingernails had remnant of black polish.
* Dentals: Available. All 32 teeth were present, in good condition, with no dental restorations.
* Clothing: Dark pullover blouse, dark blue slacks. Brown slippers. Octagon-shaped black plastic prescription glasses. 25+100X90 on 4 base. 46X42 Octagon. 22 Bridge, temple 5.25.
* Fingerprints: Fingerprints on file with the California Department of Justice.

 

[reasypeasy]

I noticed that NCMEC did a new reconstruction for this UID, so I am starting a new thread, though I have no possibles.

I did the previous one for DoeNet, and since the PM photo didn't include the top of her head, I had to guess what her forehead and hair looked like.

The two recons look pretty similar in terms of overall look. Although I was a little unsure about resemblance when I did the recon, I feel much better about it after seeing the NCMEC's version.

The Doe Network:
Case File 698UFCA http://doenetwork.org/cases/698ufca.html
NamUs UP Case #5820 WARNING POSTMORTEM PHOTOS AT LINK https://identifyus.org/cases/5820

Unidentified Black Female

* The victim was discovered on August 28, 1976 in Baker, San Bernardino County, California
* Date of Death: August 28, 1976

Vital Statistics

* Estimated age: 15-30 years old
* Approximate Height and Weight: 5'6"; 160 lbs.
* Distinguishing Characteristics: Short to medium length black hair (4” average), in afro style; hazel eyes. Obese abdomen. She had a 1.75” scar just below the naval, a 0.5” scar to the right breast, and a 1” irregular scar over the abdominal area. Earlobes had healed perforations. Fingernails had remnant of black polish.
* Dentals: Available. All 32 teeth were present, in good condition, with no dental restorations.
* Clothing: Dark pullover blouse, dark blue slacks. Brown slippers. Octagan-shaped black plastic prescription glasses. 25+100X90 on 4 base. 46X42 Octagon. 22 Bridge, temple 5.25.
* Fingerprints: Fingerprints on file with the California Department of Justice.

Good recons.

A scar just below the navel. Laparascopic surgery maybe? It wasn't all that common back then, more common for gynocological surgery than anything else.

 

[Donjeta]

She is in Codis now.

I'm not finding any good possibles.

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/2159dftx.html
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/8671/1/

Debra Kay Stewart is missing since May 1976 from Texas. She caught my eye because she has a scar on one breast and a kidney condition that might have caused a need for surgery. However, she is two to five inches shorter and 20-30 lbs lighter than the UID and her DNA is in Codis too and apparently did not trigger a match, so it should be a rule out by default.

The closest I could find in terms of LKA date is Barbara Kay Jolly missing from Seattle 6 days earlier but her dental info is entered in the system, so it's probably a rule out by dentals.
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/4935/0/

Margaret Dash is pretty close in height and weight but she is too old.
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/2931/5/

 

[traacker13]

I thought Jennifer Joyce Barton missing from TX looked like a good match. But she is listed as ruled out on namus.

 

[carbuff]

Hey, I used to have a pair of glasses just like that!

Black nail polish was pretty unusual in 1976, at least the great open spaces of the mountain west where I was.

 

[rats]

Since today (Sunday the 28th) is the 40th anniversary of her death, I thought I would bump and add the ruleouts for this Jane Doe.

Jennifer Barton 1955 Texas
Barbara Jolly 1957 Washington
Debra Kay Stewart 1956 Texas
Gladys Williams 1951 Washington

 

[Jake479]

Susan Redding: findthemissing.org/cases/20630

 

[zelda_s]

I drove through baker about a week ago. I'm sure that she was passing through to somewhere because it's pretty desolate. I dunno if people even live there really.

 

[Alleykins]

I'm so glad they have DNA for this JD.

 

[Jake479]

Has Mabel Andrews been checked? findthemissing.org/cases/24936

 

[Alleykins]

Wow, Jake. It couldn't hurt to check.

 

[CoverMeCagney]

Has Mabel Andrews been checked? findthemissing.org/cases/24936

Looks like a good match!

 

[CarlK90245]

Has Mabel Andrews been checked? findthemissing.org/cases/24936

fftopic:

Mabel is being considered as a possible for one of the two Jane Does found in 1975 in Lake Mann.

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/727uffl.html

I don't know what is holding up the ruling on this comparison, but I am guessing that she will eventually turn out to be 727UFFL (UP1328).

 

[Alleykins]

fftopic:

Mabel is being considered as a possible for one of the two Jane Does found in 1975 in Lake Mann.

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/727uffl.html

I don't know what is holding up the ruling on this comparison, but I am guessing that she will eventually turn out to be 727UFFL (UP1328).

((BBM) It's Florida. That's what's holding it up, LOL. I don't think they do the best job with their unidentified remains cases, IMHO.

 

[Moonwalker9]

thought she looked very diffrent on the two scethes of her and I couldn't see the post mortem photo on identifyus no longer.

 

[digitective]

She is in Codis now.

I'm not finding any good possibles.

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/2159dftx.html
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/8671/1/

Debra Kay Stewart is missing since May 1976 from Texas. She caught my eye because she has a scar on one breast and a kidney condition that might have caused a need for surgery. However, she is two to five inches shorter and 20-30 lbs lighter than the UID and her DNA is in Codis too and apparently did not trigger a match, so it should be a rule out by default.

The closest I could find in terms of LKA date is Barbara Kay Jolly missing from Seattle 6 days earlier but her dental info is entered in the system, so it's probably a rule out by dentals.
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/4935/0/

Margaret Dash is pretty close in height and weight but she is too old.
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/2931/5/

Debra and Barbara are now listed as exclusions. Both Margaret and Jane Doe have DNA entered, according to NamUs, so they would have automatically matched if they were a fit.

 

[digitective]

Susan Redding: findthemissing.org/cases/20630

Both Susan and Jane Doe have DNA entered, so they would have matched automatically if they were a fit.

 

[digitective]

Has Mabel Andrews been checked? findthemissing.org/cases/24936

Both Mabel and Jane Doe have DNA entered, according to NamUs, so they would have matched automatically if they were a fit.

 

[Moonwalker9]

Seen the PM. Not 100% it's her based on that photo but there are too many factors that are right. Age, Height, looks, the glasses. I say send it in.

 

[digitective]

I’ve been informed that if NamUs has two different types of DNA for each person, they wouldn’t be able to automatch, so disregard my previous comments! I don’t think I can delete them. [emoji848]


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