CA - Bakersfield 3: Disappearance of Baylee Despot and murders of James Kulstad & Micah Holsonbake

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  • #501
@bakersfield3 I saw an article last night on James' daughter talking about the case and what she didn't get to say in the Dr. Phil interview. It stated where she was going to school. Is that safe for her? My mom worry was going into over drive when I saw that. I do hope the players that tried to involve her leave her alone to heal.

Regardless of whether the information was public or not. One of you guys would find it anyway or anybody for the fact of the matter.
 
  • #502
I should have been more clear, sorry - I was wondering if he was wanting to get out of this "underworld", as Ryan called it - not if he might've been suicidal.

Yes, he was cleaning up some aspects of his life before his death.
 
  • #503
I answered part of my own question by watching Ryan's account again in the first Dr. Phil episode - sounds like there was at least one male and one female in the car with him when he first left the chiropractor's house.

Ryan mentioned he and his passengers slouching down in the car as the car carrying the shooter(s) passed them - so they wouldn't be seen. I can't figure out when that would've happened - when he was coming back from dropping someone off, or leaving SB's again? Wondering who was still in the car with him at that point.

I notice so many things I'd missed every time I re-watch it.

It wasn't in the cul de sac.
 
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  • #504
Was Baylee in the car with Ryan that night?
 
  • #505
I'm curious why Ryan and the passenger (s) would be slouching when the silver car passed if they didn't know who it was and that they were up to no good. They were hiding right? could they have known why they were there or were they also looking for someone in Ryan's car?
 
  • #506
I’ve been reading up a little on illegal weapons, trying to educate myself on it - what are they, who buys them, etc.

A few articles talk about having “everyday people,” for lack of a better term, purchase weapons legally and then turn around and sell them without any documentation. They are buying guns (mostly hand guns) en masse from legal gun stores/sellers and re-selling them at a much higher cost on Buy and Trade websites with the premium being that they’re not requiring the new owners to register the sale. It seems to be a big business and some that they’ve caught have legally purchased 100+ guns/month and have no records on file as to who they sold them to. “It’s quick and easy money,” they say. And it’s getting weapons into the hands of those who cannot legally purchase them outright (felons, etc.).

Could this relate to the money SB owed James?
 
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Also I found some pretty interesting articles while looking up some things. One of which was an arrest in Wenatchee Wa. That had to do with ID and mail fruad. It says salvador group all out of Bakersfield were arrested . May not be realted, but more to support the large crime scale out of Bakersfield .
 

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There are so many news articles. Seems like there may be answers in what was going on around the same time .here are just a few I found.. are these places to look??? Just trying to think outside of what has already been spoken about .​
 

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  • #510
One of these articles are from February20th 2018 the other in October .
There are so many news articles. Seems like there may be answers in what was going on around the same time .here are just a few I found.. are these places to look??? Just trying to think outside of what has already been spoken about .​
 
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I’ve been reading up a little on illegal weapons, trying to educate myself on it - what are they, who buys them, etc.

A few articles talk about having “everyday people,” for lack of a better term, purchase weapons legally and then turn around and sell them without any documentation. They are buying guns (mostly hand guns) en masse from legal gun stores/sellers and re-selling them at a much higher cost on Buy and Trade websites with the premium being that they’re not requiring the new owners to register the sale. It seems to be a big business and some that they’ve caught have legally purchased 100+ guns/month and have no records on file as to who they sold them to. “It’s quick and easy money,” they say. And it’s getting weapons into the hands of those who cannot legally purchase them outright (felons, etc.).

Interesting idea, especially if James was starting to try to clean up his life. Maybe he wanted out?

ETA- fixed quote
 
  • #513
There are so many news articles. Seems like there may be answers in what was going on around the same time .here are just a few I found.. are these places to look??? Just trying to think outside of what has already been spoken about .​
I had looked at this group and couldn't find any link. I had seen the case I linked and wondered about whether there could be a link. I have seen a few possible links.

Drug trafficking ring busted in Bakersfield
 
  • #514
There have been so many names released with all these crimes and arrests there has to be a place to find a connection.
 
  • #515
<modsnip: Removed FB link. Please do NOT link to social media of anyone who is not the victim, officially named POI/suspect, MSM, or LE>

(I believe) This is the girl that was with Micah and his mom when she dropped him off by the dumpster AND in the car with Ryan leaving the chiropractor. She also knew James, and the moms said they weren’t sure if she knew Baylee. They also said she was arrested with 5 felonies in Northern California related to counterfeit ids/mail fraud/etc.

So many questions! If she was the last one to to be with Micah, did she bring his to la mikes house to be murdered?
If Ryan always the intended target and she was in the car with him, is it coincidence that she’d be with 2 murdered men right before they died?
If she had all these fake ids, were they for the human trafficking ring?
If she was with Ryan when James died and she was involved with the shooters, it makes sense why she wouldn’t give any info about the car/circumstances
Could she be the person who sent Ryan the poem?
Did you find arrested records for SH?
 
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  • #516
Did you find arrested records for SH?
I have tried looking at a number of counties in Northern California and have not been able to find anything. Bay Area and Fresno checked. Sacramento has a pay wall.
 
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  • #517
I have tried looking at a number of counties in Northern California and have not been able to find anything. Bay Area and Fresno checked. Sacramento has a pay wall.
Okay. I haven't either . May I ask why you think she was with Micah that day?
 
  • #518
@calo44
"Could this relate to the money SB owed James?"

Or maybe the $18,000 Ryan was said to have "funneled"?
 
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  • #519
One of these articles are from February20th 2018 the other in October .
I really don’t believe this is related; I’m from Bakersfield and there’s huge gang cultures in certain parts of town and it’s absolutely race related. White/Indians wouldn’t be allowed in these street gangs
 
  • #520
Okay. I haven't either . May I ask why you think she was with Micah that day?
All I’ve found is she was arrested 8/8/18 in Sacramento (which you have to pay to get info from). I watched the interview the moms did with “debriefing with chadman” on Facebook and while there wasn’t a ton of info, it connected the dots that Sarah was with both men
 
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