CA - Bakersfield 3: Disappearance of Baylee Despot & murders of James Kulstad & Micah Holsonbake #2

[Jetta02]

About the chart, I have been under the assumption that there was a separate person that was the "Boss".
However, after listening to the FBI profiler again I'm not so sure. She said that there was somebody up there responsible for these acts.
Is the "Boss" one of the boxes already listed?

 

[Jetta02]

James told his mom about 2 weeks prior to his shooting that bad people were after Ryan. 2 weeks prior would be about the time Micah disappeared. James/Ryans mom was worried Ryan was dead because she could not get ahold of him for 4 days. She said he was busy running around.
I have a feeling maybe he was "hiding out" at SB house the night of James shooting.
If Ryan was the intended target was he driving somebody elses car?

 

[Bsc87bsc]

 

[MrsWells]

It seems to me that either the distributor or the bookie are “the boss”, but that’s just my own personal feeling.

 

[Bsc87bsc]

It seems to me that either the distributor or the bookie are “the boss”, but that’s just my own personal feeling.

I get the impression Jane thinks mq is the boss but I don’t think so

 

[Jetta02]

I get the impression Jane thinks mq is the boss but I don’t think so

I agree I don't think MQ is the boss either. I think its somebody much bigger. I definitely think he knows what happened & probably played a part in their disappearance.

 

[Jetta02]

I disagree with the news reporting that is was a drive by shooting. The bullet holes look too low. The angle of the bullets look straight on in bullet 1 and bullet 3. I would guess the shooter was from afar and as Mrs Wells suggested it looks like the shooter was on the ground in tactile position. Bullet 2 looks like it was shot from a position behind him.

Ryan said he was shot in the back. Was it Bullet 1, 2, or 3 that killed him?

Or did someone come up to the drivers window and shoot him in the back while he was climbing over to the passenger side to exit?

Or did someone come behind him after he was out of the car and shoot him in the back?

 

[Jetta02]

On Dr. Phil, Ryan said somebody shot 4 rounds at the car!
I'm not for sure if that means 4 bullets or how many?

 

[Jetta02]

Where was James the night he was shot? He took his mother's car at 10 pm and he was shot after 1 am.

 

[Bsc87bsc]

I agree I don't think MQ is the boss either. I think its somebody much bigger. I definitely think he knows what happened & probably played a part in their disappearance.

On Dr. Phil, Ryan said somebody shot 4 rounds at the car!
I'm not for sure if that means 4 bullets or how many?

4 rounds would mean 4 bullets

 

[MrsWells]

Where was James the night he was shot? He took his mother's car at 10 pm and he was shot after 1 am.

Do we know that he actually left her house at 10? I was thinking that was the time she went to bed, but that she didn't actually know what time he left in her car.

If so, that's a good question.

 

[Bsc87bsc]

SB’s fiancé KK is a confirmed prostitute, MQs girlfriend SW was a prostitute in Chicago, and I believe SH is as well. The women linked to this case have been willingly in the sex trade business, where and why does this tie in?

 

[MrsWells]

SB’s fiancé KK is a confirmed prostitute, MQs girlfriend SW was a prostitute in Chicago, and I believe SH is as well. The women linked to this case have been willingly in the sex trade business, where and why does this tie in?

It's definitely a way for addicts to make money to fund their addiction.

 

[Bsc87bsc]

It's definitely a way for addicts to make money to fund their addiction.

Their records/history does point to them being drug addicts as well, you are so right

 

[MrsWells]

Their records/history does point to them being drug addicts as well, you are so right

On the flip side of that, it's also a very powerful tool used by the dealers, who often double as pimps. They are able to both control and exploit the vulnerable addict/user. They manipulate (for lack of a better word) them while they're under the influence, then use their "debt" to further control exploit them, as well as the threat of withholding their next fix.

It's a sick, vicious cycle that innocent, naive young women (and men, in many cases) never see coming. Human trafficking has many faces and is far more common than most people realize.

 

[Bsc87bsc]

On the flip side of that, it's also a very powerful tool used by the dealers, who often double as pimps. They are able to both control and exploit the vulnerable addict/user. They manipulate (for lack of a better word) them while they're under the influence, then use their "debt" to further control exploit them, as well as the threat of withholding their next fix.

It's a sick, vicious cycle that innocent, naive young women (and men, in many cases) never see coming. Human trafficking has many faces and is far more common than most people realize.

I agree with that, it I also believe kk and sw we’re doing it willingly and bragged about it (thru sw’s snapchat and kk court record/social media)

 

[MrsWells]

On the flip side of that, it's also a very powerful tool used by the dealers, who often double as pimps. They are able to both control and exploit the vulnerable addict/user. They manipulate (for lack of a better word) them while they're under the influence, then use their "debt" to further control and exploit them, as well as the threat of withholding their next fix.

It's a sick, vicious cycle that innocent, naive young women (and men, in many cases) never see coming. Human trafficking has many faces and is far more common than most people realize.

Fixed it!

 

[Jetta02]

SB’s fiancé KK is a confirmed prostitute, MQs girlfriend SW was a prostitute in Chicago, and I believe SH is as well. The women linked to this case have been willingly in the sex trade business, where and why does this tie in?

These women would have "connections" to the trade...where & who to sell victims to.

 

[Jetta02]

SB’s fiancé KK is a confirmed prostitute, MQs girlfriend SW was a prostitute in Chicago, and I believe SH is as well. The women linked to this case have been willingly in the sex trade business, where and why does this tie in?

They can befriend a person & get them hooked on drugs (if not already). They can train them to the sex trade.
They also know how to pimp the victims because of their own experience.

 

[MrsWells]

These women would have "connections" to the trade...where & who to sell victims to.

The women (and fake accounts posing as women) promote one another on social media. It’s not subtle, either.

The escort/prostitution business and the drug business also feed and promote one another. Think of it as networking.

I hope every single one of those involved in this goes down hard.