CA - Bakersfield 3: Disappearance of Baylee Despot & murders of James Kulstad & Micah Holsonbake #2

[Bsc87bsc]

I read the big post. My issue with the story about the Tahoe/Denali and Baylee leaving with JF (or her "cartel family") is that the only person I know of who claims this is MQ. I see it as a massive deflection.

Same

 

[MrsWells]

Is JF/H black or hispanic?

 

[ChasingAmy]

The only problem I have with that flow chart is it is too ground level. The “distributor” in this case, is not going to be the head of operations. Or the guy who calls the shots. (H) supplies MH but he is NOT the distributor, the distributor is going to be way farther up the food chain. The real shot caller is most likely who (H) gets his supply from or even higher up than that. As it relates t this flow chart, I would put (H) as the friend. Has this theory ever been discussed: MH possibly gets ripped off by someone, or skips out on money he owes, and is now at the mercy of (H) employers?

 

[ChasingAmy]

Is JF/H black or hispanic?

Hispanic. Heavy set. Mid 40s.

 

[Speak truth]

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[ChasingAmy]

I read the big post. My issue with the story about the Tahoe/Denali and Baylee leaving with JF (or her "cartel family") is that the only person I know of who claims this is MQ. I see it as a massive deflection.

See, I didn’t know who originally claimed that. Knowing that, deflection HAS to be assumed, especially considering he probably knew that H and MH were friends.

 

[ChasingAmy]

No idea. In this town, it’s impossible for anyone to say unless they had direct knowledge or are investigators with LE. Cocaine is just as easy to find as pot.

 

[Speak truth]

Hispanic. Heavy set. Mid 40s.

People have a lot to say about him and did you say is has been MIA?

 

[Bsc87bsc]

People have a lot to say about him and did you say is has been MIA?

I’ve heard the same, that he “disappeared” after bp went missing. But I’ve assumed he’s been in jail somewhere

 

[Speak truth]

Is there proof he doesn’t?

I have to question everything MQ says as a distraction - the only thing I think is true about that comment is him asking if they heard is MC got arrested .
Not to say he isnt connected in some way or if he wasn't used to let's say pick BD up and take her somewhere or not connected at all. It is hard to say with it coming from MQ but he could used partial truths to minipulate

 

[Speak truth]

I’ve heard the same, that he “disappeared” after bp went missing. But I’ve assumed he’s been in jail somewhere

Would not be surprised if the jail somewhere else comment wasn't true considering they almost all have records in other areas

 

[Bsc87bsc]

Would not be surprised if the jail somewhere else comment wasn't true considering they almost all have records in other areas

That was my thought- all of these people spread out so far. I’d be shocked if there weren’t twice as many arrests we just haven’t found yet

 

[ChasingAmy]

Would not be surprised if the jail somewhere else comment wasn't true considering they almostu all have records in other areas

H has not been in Jail. He’s been seen, he’s just not as mobile as he was before this all began.

 

[Speak truth]

Yes James had a drug issue in his past
Yes James hung around questionable people in a social circle
Yes James might of been involved in something that led to his ultimate death
But the question is who was in the silver car?
Who else did James spend time with prior to his death that early Sunday outside of the neighborhood where he was murdered?
Was James a target, set-up, or a person in the wrong place at the wrong time?
Lastly who in that inner circle is talking?

I have often questioned who who else picked him up that day w SH. I had asked this question before but still wonder if James started asking SH where Micah was because it got around that she was the last person seen with him before he disappeared.
If that day when they hung out and later that night if he started to really push the question of what happened to Micah.
If I remember correctly the moms said that James and Micah had been hanging out in the months or so leading up to these tragic events.
I have questioned if James' death was an intent to threaten and stop him from asking questions gone wrong . I feel like that would make sense why they were trying to get SH out of the house if he was not letting it go and looking for the last person with Micah for answers . Just an opinion.

 

[Speak truth]

@ Bakersfield3 if you can answer,
Was Micah walking alone that night he was last seen by Kern Medical by that reliable source? ( I think the person was related to him somehow or a family friend)

 

[ChasingAmy]

Is SH being the last person seen with MH been corroborated by LE? The story I got, from someone I don’t feel would lie about it, says something completely different.

I was given: last seen at 3am near KMC by a male, early 30s, friend of Micah’s.

 

[Speak truth]

Is SH being the last person seen with MH been corroborated by LE? The story I got, from someone I don’t feel would lie about it, says something completely different.

Last person seen with would not be the most accurate choice of words . We were led to believe she was the passenger in the car with him when she picked him up. it is more the last person she saw him with. But from what i am getting that could have been days before he actually went missing so I am curious to know about the days between his mom seeing him and what happen to him .

 

[MrsWells]

Is SH being the last person seen with MH been corroborated by LE? The story I got, from someone I don’t feel would lie about it, says something completely different.

I was given: last seen at 3am near KMC by a male, early 30s, friend of Micah’s.

My understanding is that days before he actually went missing, his mom picked him and SH up and took them to the East side. I think the fact that SH was the last person Cheryl saw him with might be getting confused with "the person he was last seen with".

 

[MrsWells]

The only problem I have with that flow chart is it is too ground level. The “distributor” in this case, is not going to be the head of operations. Or the guy who calls the shots. (H) supplies MH but he is NOT the distributor, the distributor is going to be way farther up the food chain. The real shot caller is most likely who (H) gets his supply from or even higher up than that. As it relates t this flow chart, I would put (H) as the friend. Has this theory ever been discussed: MH possibly gets ripped off by someone, or skips out on money he owes, and is now at the mercy of (H) employers?

I agree with you on the bolded. I’ve just assumed that the chart consists of the players they know are involved and where they fit in relation to one another. I do agree that the actual “boss” is higher up, and I believe that the chart isn’t necessarily representative of the entire operation.

 

[Jetta02]

Has anyone found out anything about online gambling or any other gambling connections?
Is is true that some bookies will pay out in cash or sex w girls?
Has anyone ever heard blue coin or other code names for gaming .
It's hard not to think of gambling w bookie and I don't know how much this has been explored?

HF fb has link to World Series Of Poker--Texas Holdem.