CA CA - Barbara Thomas, 69, from Bullhead City AZ, disappeared in Mojave desert, 12 July 2019 #10

[LietKynes]

BUT, actions speak louder than words. If I was in fear, I certainly wouldn't be doing any interviews, or [DELETED BY ME]
How do we know he is in fear? @dbdb11 do you know?

I think the VI was referring to her son.
RT does not display fear. And the interviews demonstrated this.

 

[Kapua]

IMO; Hard to know whether the truck has an extra gas tank, like this: RDS Aluminum Transfer Fuel Tank Toolbox Combo — 60 Gallon, Rectangular, Diamond Plate, Model# 71787 | Northern Tool + Equipment

I was competing on a horse show circuit for several years, many years ago (late teens to early 20s); had a crew cab dually (silverado or maybe a GMC) with an extra aftermarket tank. Gas, not diesel. We got about 5-6 miles per gallon pulling the horses in the trailer, and I think it took about 75-80 gallons to fill all 3 tanks (2 side tanks that came with the truck, plus the tank in the bed..I think they were connected together somehow.) Long time ago so definitely not recalling exact details here.

Interesting. I wonder if RT stopped for gas on his way home that night.

 

[LietKynes]

I pondered that previously, but if we're talking about RT parking at the place where they went for their walk, I'm thinking LE would have been able to tell from tire marks that the truck had left and returned to hitch back onto the RV, if that had been the case. Unless you are speculating that perhaps BT wasn't with him *at all* during that rock formation interlude?

BBM

No, I wasn't, yet.
But that's a good theory.
We do not know where Barbara was after the drop off at the kennel.
It has NOT been verified that she was with RT at the gas station/convenience store.

RT saying to the employee in a 'naggy' way that he couldn't function without Barbara to help him was immediately called into question when he sprinted back to the truck-- which was parked out of view of the store.
This is not my opinion as we have LE talking to the employee and pulling the store surveillance for verification.

 

[Nikynoo]

I think the VI was referring to her son.
RT does not display fear. And the interviews demonstrated this.

I was referring to the son, not RT. I don't believe that Matthew is afraid

 

[shanadk]

Someone may have been hired to attack Barbara, right after she left the vet's office...
Not even sure why, but getting the feeling there could be more than one person involved.

 

[kay74]

And here's where my brain is reverting back to questions r/t whether any of the money she received from an inheritance is sitting in any joint accounts right now, or not.

If their financial assets are co-mingled and don't require the signatures of both parties for withdrawals, then BT NOT being found may mean that "her" money is "his" money in the meantime.

Kind of like "Mi Casa Es Su Casa," only "Mi Dinero Es Su Dinero....?"

JMO.

And here's where my brain is reverting back to questions r/t whether any of the money she received from an inheritance is sitting in any joint accounts right now, or not.

If their financial assets are co-mingled and don't require the signatures of both parties for withdrawals, then BT NOT being found may mean that "her" money is "his" money in the meantime.

Kind of like "Mi Casa Es Su Casa," only "Mi Dinero Es Su Dinero....?"

JMO.

And here's where my brain is reverting back to questions r/t whether any of the money she received from an inheritance is sitting in any joint accounts right now, or not.

If their financial assets are co-mingled and don't require the signatures of both parties for withdrawals, then BT NOT being found may mean that "her" money is "his" money in the meantime.

Kind of like "Mi Casa Es Su Casa," only "Mi Dinero Es Su Dinero....?"

JMO.

Yup, you got that right!

 

[kay74]

Sorry the above came out 3 times! Weird. Want to add maybe, BT wanted it that way with their finances co-mingled.

 

[LietKynes]

I was referring to the son, not RT. I don't believe that Matthew is afraid

Oh I thought you meant the son was fearful.
He sounds a bit off the wall-- but there could be a kernel of truth in his theories.
Not sure LE takes him at all seriously.

 

[HongKongPhooey]

I personally do not believe that BT's disappearance is at all due to any impulsive behavior and/or impaired decision-making by either BT or RT that day.

I don't think anyone acted impulsively that day.

I don't think anyone's decision-making ability was impaired that day.

JMO.

Me neither. Foresight and planning IMO

 

[LietKynes]

Yup, you got that right!

You can always edit before the 17 minutes is up.
Of course you can just leave it that way-- for added emphasis.

I wish that the son would divulge what was discussed ; esp. in the last months before she vanished.
Had Barbara talked about leaving RT ?
Was she suspicious of anything or anyone ?
Had anyone been stalking them ?

 

[kay74]

You can always edit before the 17 minutes is up.
Of course you can just leave it that way-- for added emphasis.

I wish that the son would divulge what was discussed ; esp. in the last months before she vanished.
Had Barbara talked about leaving RT ?
Was she suspicious of anything or anyone ?
Had anyone been stalking them ?

That would be interesting.

 

[kay74]

You can always edit before the 17 minutes is up.
Of course you can just leave it that way-- for added emphasis.

I wish that the son would divulge what was discussed ; esp. in the last months before she vanished.
Had Barbara talked about leaving RT ?
Was she suspicious of anything or anyone ?
Had anyone been stalking them ?

Thanks for the tip on editing, I didn't know that.

 

[shanadk]

Where are you Barbara...:-(

 

[GordianKnot]

Oh I thought you meant the son was fearful.
He sounds a bit off the wall-- but there could be a kernel of truth in his theories.
Not sure LE takes him at all seriously.

I think LE takes his concern for his mom very seriously.

His theories about why she's missing, not so much.

JMO.

 

[k-mac]

Although.. if random kidnapper perhaps hired to speed up some kind of an inheritance theory, it is very likely BT would have turned up obviously deceased by now... whereas perhaps someone with the means to hold out for that for a few years, not so much of a rush? But also have to consider age factors. <pondering>

just jumping off this post into my own rabbit hole of money trails....

if say I inherited a large sum of money via inheritance, my husband would already be enjoying the fruits of my wealth (as well as his own, as well as ours together).
if I went missing never to be found again his financial situation wouldn't change.

but if I was contemplating leaving him.......well then....our financial situation becomes a big dividing issue.

moo

 

[k-mac]

And here's where my brain is reverting back to questions r/t whether any of the money she received from an inheritance is sitting in any joint accounts right now, or not.

If their financial assets are co-mingled and don't require the signatures of both parties for withdrawals, then BT NOT being found may mean that "her" money is "his" money in the meantime.

Kind of like "Mi Casa Es Su Casa," only "Mi Dinero Es Su Dinero....?"

JMO.

exactly
status quo is the best scenario IF there is a complicated will lurking around.

moo

 

[MsBetsy]

BUT, actions speak louder than words. If I was in fear, I certainly wouldn't be doing any interviews, or [DELETED BY ME]
How do we know he is in fear? @dbdb11 do you know?

The VI has stated that Matt is in fear of his safety and the VI's family is in fear of his (the VI's) safety.
I think it was brought up as one of the reasons the VI's family didn't want him to get involved.

And yes, if Matt was really that concerned I would think he would stay away from the media. Imo

 

[LAhiker]

I was considering earlier today..
Just in case he was using the gas station to establish himself at a location and time, knowing he would be on camera.. The question is what are all the possible routes they could have taken prior to the purchase of ice.. What other isolated spots could they have stopped at ?

I don't know the answer off-hand, but if LE was right when they told the VI that the photos show that RT & BT were where and when RT said, and if that would be at Kelbaker/Hidden Hill, then I'd be more worried about what time that was ad where he might've gone after the stop at the Circle K.

If on the other hand LE was mistaken or fibbing about when/where the photos were taken, for instance, if the time/date stamps had been altered, and if BT didn't show up in any surveillance photo at the Circle K/Chevron station or the Red Roof Inn across the street, then similar to what you suggest, I'd be more concerned about where they were before the stop for ice.

Another factor is time -- what time they left Bullhead City and when RT was seen at the Circle K. If there was little extra time between those two points (given their likely maximum speed pulling the RV), I would again tend to focus on what happened after the stop for ice and before RT called 911....

 

[MsBetsy]

Someone may have been hired to attack Barbara, right after she left the vet's office...
Not even sure why, but getting the feeling there could be more than one person involved.

Yet the one thing that LE did share with the VI is that they have pictures of Barbara that RT took of her in the desert that day.

They also said that just because someone has suspicious behavior, it does not mean that they are a murderer.

Imo

 

[MsBetsy]

You can always edit before the 17 minutes is up.
Of course you can just leave it that way-- for added emphasis.

I wish that the son would divulge what was discussed ; esp. in the last months before she vanished.
Had Barbara talked about leaving RT ?
Was she suspicious of anything or anyone ?
Had anyone been stalking them ?

Since he has proven to be an unreliable source of information and a liability to LE, I'm not sure how credible any information from him would be. He wouldn't even say how they were communicating.

Imo