CA CA - Barbara Thomas, 69, from Bullhead City AZ, disappeared in Mojave desert, 12 July 2019 #10

[MsBetsy]

Hmmm I wonder if that is the only time she wears a bikini is when they are going to be in the river.I don't know anyone who would wear a bikini in the desert on a hike

The VI said a beer and bikini sounds just like Barbara.
It was not uncommon for her. She probably enjoyed being tanned. Imo

 

[MsBetsy]

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Dbdb11 also said he went on a day trip with them on the Colorado River, but they did not go swimming since it was too cold.
That was the same post in which he said Barbara would go walking in the desert in a bikini top and shorts. Imo

 

[K9Enzo]

Hmmm I wonder if that is the only time she wears a bikini is when they are going to be in the river.I don't know anyone who would wear a bikini in the desert on a hike

While hiking I have come across women hiking in activewear bras & boy shorts. Even recently climbing a mountain in NY. IMO, it’s really not a big deal. If that was BT’s thing, hi five to her.

 

[girlhasnoname]

While hiking I have come across women hiking in activewear bras & boy shorts. Even recently climbing a mountain in NY. IMO, it’s really not a big deal. If that was BT’s thing, hi five to her.

ITA, just came back from hiking and an organized run also, it is absolutely not uncommon for women to wear these items, I did myself. Barbra is a fit and lovely woman for any age. I am so worried for her.

MOO

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Cindy Bachman, a sheriff's spokeswoman, said that investigators were looking into all leads.

Bachman said the Sheriff's Department does not release information on polygraph tests.

I take this statement by the sheriff's spokeswoman when questioned by the reporter is that they will not give the reporter any information on polygraph tests including whether they gave one to RT or if they told him the test showed deception. JMO

Family suspects foul play in disappearance of Bullhead City woman

 

[Gigi3]

ITA, just came back from hiking and an organized run also, it is absolutely not uncommon for women to wear these items, I did myself. Barbra is a fit and lovely woman for any age. I am so worried for her.

MOO

Thanks for sharing. Agreed.
I, for one, could give 2 flying fig newtons what she was wearing. I only hope to be as awesome as Barbara is at that age! Please let her be found soon! It’s time to bring Barbara home. MOO

 

[Chingaling]

The VI said a beer and bikini sounds just like Barbara.
It was not uncommon for her. She probably enjoyed being tanned. Imo

A tan is nice,were talking burned to a crisp if things don't go as planned.I have talked to several people whose opinion I value and we are all in agreement.It just isn't wise.And her being the age she is the wrinkles and sun damage just isn't worth the risk.

 

[Chingaling]

While hiking I have come across women hiking in activewear bras & boy shorts. Even recently climbing a mountain in NY. IMO, it’s really not a big deal. If that was BT’s thing, hi five to her.

Not a big deal for her to wear a bikini if she wants too but wearing one in a desert is not a good decision and I don't know any older women who would do it because of UV rays,and I know a few older women who dress like they are in their 20's, not anything to do with her right to wear a bikini.

 

[MsBetsy]

Not a big deal for her to wear a bikini if she wants too but wearing one in a desert is not a good decision and I don't know any older women who would do it because of UV rays,and I know a few older women who dress like they are in their 20's, not anything to do with her right to wear a bikini.

Well, sunscreen with an SPF of at least 30 protects skin from about 98% of the sun's UV rays.

I'm sure Barbara was familiar with how to protect her skin from getting burned.

IMO

 

[al66pine]

Assets, Accounts, Real Estate. His? Hers? Theirs? Whose?
Some posts asked about a husband spending money/using assets of missing wife.
Generally, verrrrry generally, when a wife is missing/absent, husband has only the
same legal authority as when she is not missing/absent jmo.* Ditto, vice versa.
Joint tenancy w right of survivorship** (JTWROS) a/c’s may require only one signature for
many types of transactions. But to sell some assets in JTWROS name, both signatures may be required. .

Hypotheticals below are broad generalities which may or may not apply to a particular situation.
Hypothetical husband Harry Hammond & hypothetical wife Wanda Watson hold
most of their (hypo) assets, a/c’s, & property in JTWROS, at the time Wanda goes missing.
.
Husband’s authority re JOINT a/c’s while Wife is absent/missing. .
Title/Registration….................Ex’s of a/c, assets …….................... Harry while Wife Missing/Absent.
HH & WW, JtTen,Rt of Surv….Bank: Checking, Savings, CDs……... Write cks, w/draw $, use ATM, etc.
HH & WW, JtTen,Rt of Surv….Invmt Brokerage, e.g. Merrill Lynch… Buy & sell stocks, bonds, etc.
HH & WW, JtTen,Rt of Surv….Mutual Funds, e.g., Fidelity Funds…. Buy & sell mutual funds.
HH & WW, JtTen,Rt of Surv….Car ………………….…………….….…***
HH & WW, JtTen,Rt of Surv….Motorcycles…...…………………..……***
HH & WW, JtTen,Rt of Surv….RV …...…………………………….……***
HH & WW, JtTen,Rt of Surv….Boat…...…………………………….…..***
HH & WW, JtTen,Rt of Surv….House…...………………………….…...***
.
*** Although a given transaction may be legally valid (would 'stand up' in ct) w only one a/c holder's signature, it is not uncommon for a company to require signatures of both joint tenants/owners and
sometimes to require notarization when not legally mandated. Of course, ^ usu to protect the bank, lender, payer, or other buyer or seller, et al..
Other factors may influence decision of bank or co. about whether to process/facilitate a transaction, w only one signature or to require two sig's. The following may tip the scale one way or another:
--- 1. Type of proposed transaction - buy, sell, or loan.
--- 2. Type of entity involved, financial institution, bank, investment brokerage, mutual fund company, auto dealership, RV - boat - motorcycle dealership, real estate agency, title ins co., et al.
--- 3. The particular entity & size, for ex: mom & pop business or nationwide co.
--- 4. Amount of $ in question.
--- 5. State where transaction occurs.
--- 6. Other?.
Q: Can Harry 'can spend' money or sell assets on his signature alone if a/c is JTWROS w Wanda?
A: It depends. Practically speaking the answer may be institution-specific, and even
transaction-specific, so is difficult to predict.
__________________________________________
* JMO ^ based largely on ~20 years of home office employment in legal/compliance depts. of
financial institutions operating in 40+ states, as well as specialized training in related legal issues. And personal experience in buying & selling in 25+ pieces of real estate in three states. JMO. YMMV..
Above info is given only as hypothetical examples and is not intended to apply to or
reflect on any assets, accounts, or property Robert and/or Barbara Thomas may have..
** Joint Tenancy with Rights of Survivorship. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concurrent_estate.

 

[Sillybilly]

Discussing minor children is absolutely not allowed and gleaning information from sleuthing family social media is not allowed either.

Please read The Rules (linked in my signature) and post in accordance with them.

Thank you.

 

[al66pine]

When Spouse is a MisPers, Does Person 'Need' to Engage Atty?

What kind of representation does RT need?
Isn't it only logical him not having a lawyer, only just briefly when being told he was deceptive while he wasn't, that makes sense imo.
Soon after LE said no foul play no kidnapping, they have pictures of that day and time of Barbara being where Robert said she was, he isn't a suspect, so no need for a lawyer. IMO

@Micheline Good question in your post. bbm
I don't know about 'need' to engage crim atty in this circumstance.
If RT now has exercised his 5th A'mt right, in face of LE trying to question/interrogate, I recognize his legal prerogative to do so. Nor do I think he is obligated to make public stmts himself.
.
That said, imo, seems unusual for ---
--- person w MisPers spouse to give public MSM interviews about disappearance,
---then for atty to make public MSM announcement (~ trying to get info to get spouse return home/come back home ~ my paraphrasing)
--- then (public) silence from both AFAIK for ~ 2 mos after disappearance. Just a bit unusual.
.
Above post states as fact: " ...LE said no foul play no kidnapping..." Per ToS, I'm asking for link, pls.
The purported LE's 'no foul play' and 'no kidnapping' stmts have been discussed here past exhaustion, to the point where I thought that equine was mortally wounded and about to meet his Maker.
Nevertheless I'll ask @Micheline or anyone, for a link to -
1) MSM article w a named LEO saying there was/is "no foul play" and "no kidnapping" w those words in "quotation marks" meaning the reporter has not paraphrased, or used his/her own words, or interpreted the LEO's stmt, or
2) MSM vid w those exact words coming from LEO's mouth, or
3) LE media release w that exact wording.
I've looked but have not located. Thx in adv.

 

[K9Enzo]

Not a big deal for her to wear a bikini if she wants too but wearing one in a desert is not a good decision and I don't know any older women who would do it because of UV rays,and I know a few older women who dress like they are in their 20's, not anything to do with her right to wear a bikini.

Protection from the sun and skin damage. Agree.

Maybe BT felt the same and took precautions to protect herself with sunscreen, as an example. Maybe, she doesn't feel the same way as you on the subject.

I have no clue if BT made good or bad decisions. My comment was to point out it's not really unusual (in my experience) to see someone hiking in something similar to a bikini.

(If I recall correctly, you stated: Hmmm I wonder if that is the only time she wears a bikini is when they are going to be in the river. I don't know anyone who would wear a bikini in the desert on a hike)

Many people when they step out for a short day hike don't anticipate an emergency, such as a severe injury or getting lost, as an example. If this were to happen - what means do you (not you personally) have to get help and keep yourself alive until a rescue? What you carry is your life line potentially. Based on the information released I was VERY concerned for BT when she went missing and SAR was actively conducting searches for her. If the information released was accurate, she most likely only had what she was wearing and 12 oz. of fluid. This is a harsh environment. We also have no idea what kind of condition she was in when she set off that day, how hydrated she was, what she ate, etc. To me, this information matters as well. Probability of survival, the bigger picture based on several factors.

Some members here question if that's really what she was wearing to begin. Some people just can't wrap their minds around it because they would not do the same, ever. Some say this appears to be normal for her and others, even if they would not do the same. The list goes on really.

 

[cazador]

My only thought on clothing is .. Walking in a that particular environment. You better stay on the beaten path. No rock climbing or off road walking.
So that brings me to her being lost.. Impossible in that type clothing..

Other then that having LE agencies list clothing differently on their web sites noting her as a missing person is very odd
jmho

 

[al66pine]

dbm

 

[al66pine]

Did BT Ever Meet her Grandchildren?

....RT and Barbara will have been married 13 years this November 2019, not counting their courtship. Her grandchildren are 13 and 11. It sure sticks out to me that basically the entire time with RT that Barbara has never met her grandchildren.

@ CSIDreamer Thanks for post. bbm sbm
I do not recall reading/hearing bbm as fact, but could have missed it. If true, and if no in-person visits ever, it does seem quite unusual but could have happened for reasons other than hard feelings/neglect on BT's or RT's parts.
Link, pls, anyone? Thx in adv.

 

[AliceInPain]

I haven't been here for some time. Still hoping Barbara will be found soon!

But I'm wondering WHY are people still dicussing her clothing??
It was sorted out the first few weeks she was missing!

 

[al66pine]

Lost?

My only thought on clothing is .. Walking in a that particular environment. You better stay on the beaten path. No rock climbing or off road walking.
So that brings me to her being lost.. Impossible in that type clothing.. ....

@cazador bbm sbm Thanks for your post, but I'm not tracking.
Are you saying "being lost" as in----
--- she could not orient self, could not find her way back to trail? What diff does her clothing make? or
--- other ppl looking for her could not find her? Again, what diff does her clothing make? Presumably, any of the following - RT, LE, SAR, others - could have found her whether she was in bikini, business attire, or arctic parka & gear.

More coffee to wake my wonky brain?

 

[al66pine]

That equine was mortally wounded and about to meet his Maker but...

....But I'm wondering WHY are people still dicussing her clothing?? It was sorted out the first few weeks she was missing!

@AliceInPain Thanks for your post. bbm

... Trigger still has a faint pulse. LOL

 

[mks762]

I haven't been here for some time. Still hoping Barbara will be found soon!

But I'm wondering WHY are people still dicussing her clothing??
It was sorted out the first few weeks she was missing!

My first time here in a while as well and I thought the EXACT same thing!! Still about the bikini and the beer?? But in cases like these where there isn't a whole lot of new information coming, you tend to go in circles. Wash rinse and repeat. I'm truly shocked that she has not been located still. I thought by this point I'd be seeing an arrest at least.