CA CA - Barbara Thomas, 69, from Bullhead City AZ, disappeared in Mojave desert, 12 July 2019 #10

[bronbaby]

Thank you so much for this, @ChuckMaureen !

Here it is --- RT did say that LE told him the poly revealed deception; but the LE said they didn't tell him that.
So why is he pushing that narrative ?
Makes no sense and it makes him look bad; among other words/inaction.

to garner sympathy from the public possibly?
MOO

 

[MsBetsy]

Thank you so much for this, @ChuckMaureen !

Here it is --- RT did say that LE told him the poly revealed deception; but the LE said they didn't tell him that.
So why is he pushing that narrative ?
Makes no sense and it makes him look bad; among other words/inaction.

Yes, he is clearly his own worst enemy.
It never made sense to me that he would go on national tv and announce to everybody that he is the "prime suspect" and his polygraph indicated deception.

When LE was questioned about it in an interview they said they asked him the same questions that are asked in any other missing persons case and that the search was based on the last location where Mr. Thomas told them he saw his wife. They stressed that they do not suspect foul play.

Yet he goes on tv and basically says the opposite. I have no idea why he would intentionally point the finger at himself.

IMO

 

[MsBetsy]

Thank you for that @MsBetsy Your post jogged my memory of this post you remembered from dbdb11: “Thank you, I “never could” get an answer from Matt as to how they were communicating.”

just spent awhile looking through our VI’s posts; I could not find it. Perhaps it was one that was deleted before his verification. I scrolled through from the start... such a tragedy beyond imagining ...surreal; bizarre; awful. My heart is with Barbara and her family

It wasn't deleted because I just saw it about two days ago. I was actually looking for another post and couldn't find it, so I ended up reading about twenty of them.
I'm not sure of the exact wording so I didn't put the whole thing in quotes, but I think it's pretty close to what was said.

 

[christinac1969]

Interview provided absoloutely no new information. RT refused an interview.

 

[cazador]

The psychology of selling or setting up for a good con By placing yourself as a victim

 

[bronbaby]

Interview provided absoloutely no new information. RT refused an interview.

a question i am asking myself...
why would someone refuse the opportunity to bring national attention to their missing spouse?
my immediate answer...
because it brings the spotlight onto them.

IMO BBM

 

[bronbaby]

The psychology of selling or setting up for a good con By placing yourself as a victim

^^^ manipulation...

 

[christinac1969]

Excellent find! So at 10.8 MPG with a 34 gallon tank, that gives the combined vehicle a range of 367.2 miles. Someone driving a vehicle like this would need to conserve enough fuel to make it to the nearest gas station. From Kelbaker/Hidden Hills back to Needles is 70.2 miles and one would need ~6.5 gallons to make it there on fumes. Let's conserve twice that much to be on the safe side - 12 gallons of the 34. That gives a range of 237 miles for a day trip, conserving enough to make it to the gas station safely on the way back. MOO and YMMV.

ETA: Sorry, checked my math and corrected.

Excellent find! So at 10.8 MPG with a 34 gallon tank, that gives the combined vehicle a range of 367.2 miles. Someone driving a vehicle like this would need to conserve enough fuel to make it to the nearest gas station. From Kelbaker/Hidden Hills back to Needles is 70.2 miles and one would need ~6.5 gallons to make it there on fumes. Let's conserve twice that much to be on the safe side - 12 gallons of the 34. That gives a range of 237 miles for a day trip, conserving enough to make it to the gas station safely on the way back. MOO and YMMV.

ETA: Sorry, checked my math and corrected.

 

[christinac1969]

There is a gas station between Needles and KelBaker/Hidden Hills

 

[MimosaMornings]

Wonder how often Barbara saw her grandchildren (her son’s two children). Guessing her son is divorced and ex has custody of the children.

 

[PommyMommy]

SEP 24, 2019
Professor uses coverage of missing woman as case study
[...]

At the time, 13 Action News spoke with Bob Thomas about the search for his wife. Now, an anthropology professor at Oxnard College in Ventura, California is using that news coverage as a case study in her class.

[...]

She says she first has them watch the coverage with no sound.

[...]

Then she has them watch with the sound on.

Kama’ila says the students tend to point out how calm Bob Thomas is during the interview.

“He sort of breaks down but everybody notices there’s no real tears or real sobbing, so it just seemed really suspicious to most of the people in the class,” she says.

[...]

Kama’ila says the overall feeling of sadness is noted.

“It could just be that he feels guilty, he lost his wife in the desert. It was his idea to go and now she’s missing and everyone is going to blame him, it doesn’t mean he actually did something to her,” says Kama’ila.

[...]

 

[MassGuy]

a question i am asking myself...
why would someone refuse the opportunity to bring national attention to their missing spouse?
my immediate answer...
because it brings the spotlight onto them.

IMO BBM

Yeah, that’s abnormal behavior.

If people are casting aspersions against you, that’s not something that anyone enjoys.

But most people in that situation would push forward, and do everything in their power to bring attention to their missing spouse.

This is life and death; who cares about what the public thinks?

It’s odd.

 

[MsBetsy]

a question i am asking myself...
why would someone refuse the opportunity to bring national attention to their missing spouse?
my immediate answer...
because it brings the spotlight onto them.

IMO BBM

He brought the spotlight on himself from the very beginning.
Maybe by now he has given up hope. LE may have convinced him that there is no evidence of a kidnapping, or they think there is little chance that she will be found alive. Imo

 

[MsBetsy]

SEP 24, 2019
Professor uses coverage of missing woman as case study
[...]

At the time, 13 Action News spoke with Bob Thomas about the search for his wife. Now, an anthropology professor at Oxnard College in Ventura, California is using that news coverage as a case study in her class.

[...]

She says she first has them watch the coverage with no sound.

[...]

Then she has them watch with the sound on.

Kama’ila says the students tend to point out how calm Bob Thomas is during the interview.

“He sort of breaks down but everybody notices there’s no real tears or real sobbing, so it just seemed really suspicious to most of the people in the class,” she says.

[...]

Kama’ila says the overall feeling of sadness is noted.

“It could just be that he feels guilty, he lost his wife in the desert. It was his idea to go and now she’s missing and everyone is going to blame him, it doesn’t mean he actually did something to her,” says Kama’ila.

[...]

I'm sure he feels guilty, and he probably does blame himself.
That so many believe he had something to do with it probably adds to his guilt and his grief. Imo

 

[dbdb11]

Oh, I thought family members told you that RT and Barbara would often visit and travelled in his plane.

correct. after websleuths brought the plane to my attention, i shared that info with LE, with matt, and also brought it up with RT's family. they knew about the plane and explained rob and barb flew in to visit. that was normal. for me and my family we only saw the flight simulator, we went on the colorado river in the boat, and took day trips into the desert. we rarely visited... about once a year, until 2008 or so when we stopped doing annual family visits to the US.

he's had the plane since before meeting barb, so not sure why they wouldn't think to mention it, ever.

When asked I will state categorically that I have not been in contact with my sister for years.

This does not mean I have not "heard" from her, or that I have not had contact with my nephews.

I suspect the main source of contact was not with her son, but rather her grandchildren.

barb has never met her grandchildren, and, imo, they are too young to share health details about relatives or travel plans with. perhaps with their mother? its not impossible, but i doubt it.

as i understand, barb and matt were in direct contact, on at least one occasion, in the months leading up to her disappearance.

 

[dbdb11]

Lafayette man's mother still missing after hiking in the Mojave Desert with husband

Aug 7, 2019

[...]

Pages of notes fill his desk and he is adamant his mother's husband of 14 years played a role in her disappearance.

"It's just none of it adds up," said Schellinkhout. "It's angering and frustrating. I hope he just tells the truth. The truth about what happened."

The truth is temperatures were brutal the day Barbara went missing and it continues to be like that.

"It's been triple-digit heat especially in that part of the desert," said Allison.

Deputies believe Barbara was last seen about 20 miles north of the I-40 freeway east of Kelbaker Road.

We reached out to Robert to ask him what happened, but he directed us to his lawyer.

"Still frantically working on a way to get information to bring her [Barbara] home," said Robert's attorney, Eric Anderson out of California. bbm

Call the anonymous We-Tip hotline if you have information about Barbara Thomas' disappearance. That number is 1-800-78-CRIME.

ETA: OK, I finally see reference to RT's attorney, and understand why no further statements, reward, etc.

repeating: eric anderson is no longer representing robert thomas, and declined to comment why.

 

[Steelslady]

Yes, he is clearly his own worst enemy.
It never made sense to me that he would go on national tv and announce to everybody that he is the "prime suspect" and his polygraph indicated deception.

When LE was questioned about it in an interview they said they asked him the same questions that are asked in any other missing persons case and that the search was based on the last location where Mr. Thomas told them he saw his wife. They stressed that they do not suspect foul play.

Yet he goes on tv and basically says the opposite. I have no idea why he would intentionally point the finger at himself.

IMO

Someone has a guilty conscience, if you ask me. JMO

 

[Steelslady]

repeating: eric anderson is no longer representing robert thomas, and declined to comment why.

Well now, that is interesting indeed.

 

[MassGuy]

repeating: eric anderson is no longer representing robert thomas, and declined to comment why.

Attorneys are expensive, and the heat may have subsided.

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

repeating: eric anderson is no longer representing robert thomas, and declined to comment why.

Hey dbdb......glad to have u here with us.