CA CA - Barbara Thomas, 69, from Bullhead City AZ, disappeared in Mojave desert, 12 July 2019 #5

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  • #21
OK, so please clear this for me - very sorry if I missed it: that picture of Barbara, in the black 'bikini' top (looks sorta bra like to me, but really doesn't matter) & red hat: I am under impression that it was NOT taken the day she disappeared...

Is that correct - ?

TIA!

No one has been able to verify WHEN that photo was taken.
 
  • #22
Checking to see from the excellent photos from members of the area they hiked in -- where that cave is RT spoke of.
Haven't found it yet.

Also --and this was brought up near the end of thread #4, if RT thought she was abducted -- why did he spend an hour or more looking for her ?

From post # 1458 on thread #4 ; No, afaik, LE have not used the words 'crime scene'.
But RT has used those words in msm.
 
  • #23
I think the VI also does not know if the photo was taken the day she vanished.

Okay, thanks! I thought it was determined it wasn't - it's sticking in my craw.

Sure like to know one way or another

The rocks behind her sure look like the rock formation. But, even so, could have been taken on an earlier trip

I keep having a niggling feeling about it - like to lay it to rest if possible

Thanks again
 
  • #24
I wonder if LE is really referring to this, though—or are they saying that they have not found evidence of her in the course of their desert searches?
Good point.
Maybe both ?
 
  • #25
Also --and this was brought up near the end of thread #4, if RT thought she was abducted -- why did he spend an hour or more looking for her ?

Do you have a source for RT thinking she was abducted before he searched and before he called 911 and SAR and LE not finding her the day she disappeared? Wasn't his interview saying she might be abducted some time or day after the initial searching?
 
  • #26
Well that may answer a few questions.... namely that LE HAVE scoured through security footage from various places they may have stopped at-- and she was not visible-- at least on camera.
Again with LE using the word, "Evidence".
Has LE stated that they have looked through all the video surveillance and not observed Barbara in the vehicle?
In this case wouldn't it be a criminal investigation?

Why aren't they asking the public for tips or asking if people observed the truck and the RV at any of the locations?
Wouldn't they be relying on the public for help if this was the case?
Why would they say they do not suspect foul play?
Why wouldn't they reveal that his story does not add up and they consider him a suspect? Imo
 
  • #27
Also --and this was brought up near the end of thread #4, if RT thought she was abducted -- why did he spend an hour or more looking for her ?.
There's no reason to think that he thought of abduction straight away.
Makes sense that he would look for her first. He would not expect her to be far away.
As days went by without any sign of her, chances of her survival in the desert dwindled. I think it's quite natural to look for (and pin hopes on) an explanation in which she might still be alive and well.
 
  • #28
Checking to see from the excellent photos from members of the area they hiked in -- where that cave is RT spoke of.
Haven't found it yet.

Also --and this was brought up near the end of thread #4, if RT thought she was abducted -- why did he spend an hour or more looking for her ?

From post # 1458 on thread #4 ; No, afaik, LE have not used the words 'crime scene'.
But RT has used those words in msm.
He apparently came to the conclusion that she must have been abducted after several days of the searchers looking and finding no sign of her.
He looked for her after not finding her at the RV because he thought she might be lost or had stopped in the cave to get some shade or rest. Imo
 
  • #29
Has LE stated that they have looked through all the video surveillance and not observed Barbara in the vehicle?
In this case wouldn't it be a criminal investigation?

Why aren't they asking the public for tips or asking if people observed the truck and the RV at any of the locations?
Wouldn't they be relying on the public for help if this was the case?
Why would they say they do not suspect foul play?
Why wouldn't they reveal that his story does not add up and they consider him a suspect? Imo

Perhaps they are just letting RT continue talking as they collect more evidence in their investigation.

It does seem to me they are focused on him -- without disclosing all the details.

I'm really sorry for her family that she's not been recovered.

MOO
 
  • #30
Perhaps they are just letting RT continue talking as they collect more evidence in their investigation.

It does seem to me they are focused on him -- without disclosing all the details.

I'm really sorry for her family that she's not been recovered.

MOO
Apparently he has gone silent since he did those interviews a few days after she went missing.
Even Barbara's family has said he has not contacted them and has stopped talking to them. (according to the VI) imo
 
  • #31
If RT feels that LE are focused on him-- maybe he's becoming angry ?
Any innocent person would be.
Possibly Barbara's family have been putting some pressure on him ?
 
  • #32
Apparently he has gone silent since he did those interviews a few days after she went missing.
Even Barbara's family has said he has not contacted them and has stopped talking to them. (according to the VI) imo

Where did the VI say that RT has stopped talking with them? I don't recall seeing that. MOO
 
  • #33
Do you have a source for RT thinking she was abducted before he searched and before he called 911 and SAR and LE not finding her the day she disappeared? Wasn't his interview saying she might be abducted some time or day after the initial searching?
^^^ No, I don't.
Too many emoticons
Just thinking out loud.
Will backtrack and reread some of the threads.

Quite honestly that entire day that Barbara went missing is a mystery to me.
Although the timeline put up in thread #4 is illuminating.
 
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  • #34
the interesting thing with this case is we have a definitive starting point and place.
LE have the advantage of being able to dissect, re-anact every single part of RT's narrative.
prove or disprove the reality of possibility to his claims.

atm I am curious about the visual opportunities to see the main road and vehicles coming and going from the track.
iirc a poster earlier on said you would be able to see the roof of RT's 5th wheeler from the track so wondering what else you could see from various parts of the track?

moo
 
  • #35
If RT feels that LE are focused on him-- maybe he's becoming angry ?
Any innocent person would be.
Possibly Barbara's family have been putting some pressure on him ?
I wonder if he’s reading here, and getting worked up over any of our ideas
 
  • #36
DBM....might stir things up and don't wish to do that! : )
 
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  • #37
Where did the VI say that RT has stopped talking with them? I don't recall seeing that. MOO
I'm not sure which thread. Maybe the last one?
I don't have a very good sense of time either so I'm not even sure how many days ago. I'm thinking it was at least a week ago.
I know he said it was very frustrating to them. I made a comment in response that maybe he had fallen into a deep depression. Imo
 
  • #38
I go back and forth about the "What if's".

What if my DH went missing and I was pestering (in their minds) his family for information that they might-- or might not -- have ?
I still might bother them, out of fear.

So--- if RT isn't that involved with Barbara's family-- and all of a sudden he's calling and emailing and they're thinking, "We don't know any more than you do..."
Must be a lot of frustration happening behind the scenes.

I'm thinking if she left of her own volition, she'd have contacted someone on her side by now.
But some people don't, for reasons of their own.
 
  • #39
I'm still here, just waiting for official news and holding onto what is rapidly dwindling hope that BT comes home safe. :(
Where is Barbara?
Chi
 
  • #40
Whenever I'm "on to something" I get a panicky sense of urgency. I just got it now. Here's what I think happened to Barbara, and because I am an amateur, could be completely wrong. That's the caveat.

I think, just like RT speculates, Barbara was crossing the road, and I believe she was hit by a vehicle. They panicked and threw her in the trunk, and dumped her somewhere else. That long desert drive to Vegas, they could have been looking at scenery, reaching for something, or whatever, (on cruise control), and didn't see her.

That's what I think happened to Barbara.
LE should look for signs of this on the highway, if they haven't already.

Amateur opinion and speculation
 
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