Found Deceased CA - Beau Mann, 39, Tech CEO, texted “911” after leaving store, Studio City, 30 Nov 2021 *found deceased 2023*

[Psychic Sleuth]

I'm confused... I thought this was the official family page run by Amy (Beau's mom). She just posted this about Uber on May 19:
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Thanks for posting this and yes the family is concerned about the Uber driver and no they are not getting any more info from LAPD then the fiance' and no LAPD has not officially cleared the driver. There are 2 official FB pages-one is a page run by Amy and one is a group run by Jason.

 

[Rusty Braincells]

I use Sober Grid and was sorry to hear about the founder’s disappearance. I hope he is found safe and well soon.

Having read through the thread, there’s nothing immediately suspicious to me personally about the Uber driver. I understand the family wanting more answers but as an alcoholic myself, I know that chaos follows if I relapse and that situations that aren’t threatening become scary and elevated through the prism of substance abuse. Foul play is certainly a possibility but to me the least likely one. Of course it has happened before and could have happened here, but there isn’t any real evidence for it.

I would be the last person to make assumptions, but if BM was near to relapse or having issues and it happened or was about to happen, from my own personal experience I can say that paranoia and feeling a sense of catastrophe is not uncommon. Hence the 911 communication. Usually, any sober person of right mind who contacts emergency services has good reason to be fearful or report a crime but if relapse had happened then all bets are off. Like I say, not seeing to make assumptions too heavily and there is only limited evidence for this possibility too, but with the blog and past history of issues, IMO more cause to suspect this than a random Uber driver deciding to hurt a passenger or taking the ultimate steps to cover up an altercation of some kind.

 

[BelTin007]

I use Sober Grid and was sorry to hear about the founder’s disappearance. I hope he is found safe and well soon.

Having read through the thread, there’s nothing immediately suspicious to me personally about the Uber driver. I understand the family wanting more answers but as an alcoholic myself, I know that chaos follows if I relapse and that situations that aren’t threatening become scary and elevated through the prism of substance abuse. Foul play is certainly a possibility but to me the least likely one. Of course it has happened before and could have happened here, but there isn’t any real evidence for it.

I would be the last person to make assumptions, but if BM was near to relapse or having issues and it happened or was about to happen, from my own personal experience I can say that paranoia and feeling a sense of catastrophe is not uncommon. Hence the 911 communication. Usually, any sober person of right mind who contacts emergency services has good reason to be fearful or report a crime but if relapse had happened then all bets are off. Like I say, not seeing to make assumptions too heavily and there is only limited evidence for this possibility too, but with the blog and past history of issues, IMO more cause to suspect this than a random Uber driver deciding to hurt a passenger or taking the ultimate steps to cover up an altercation of some kind.

Hi Rusty, but Beau has been missing for over 6 months with no access to cash, credit, phone etc., where would he be? I understand what you're saying, but a person wouldn't be able to survive this long voluntarily without money, a place to stay, etc. and Beau understood the nature of addiction and would never judge anyone for a relapse but rather would do whatever he could to get them the help they need for treatment etc. I am not implying it must have involved Uber but I am just using the only data we have which is the last place he was where anyone saw him or heard from him was in that Uber combined with that 911 text which was the last phone activity he ever had as far as I know, is pretty eyebrow raising. I mean, his 40th birthday (a big one!) has come and gone, Christmas, New Years, Easter, his Nephews birthday, our beloved dog passed and Beau knew the dog was dying of end-stage cancer and the treatments were failing. Beau is extremely sensitive to the importance of events like all of these, to just not show up, or at at least call someone to say he was ok is not like Beau at all. Trust me, nothing would every get in the way of this man expressing his love for those he loved, he is the most loving man.

 

[Rusty Braincells]

Hi Rusty, but Beau has been missing for over 6 months with no access to cash, credit, phone etc., where would he be? I understand what you're saying, but a person wouldn't be able to survive this long voluntarily without money, a place to stay, etc. and Beau understood the nature of addiction and would never judge anyone for a relapse but rather would do whatever he could to get them the help they need for treatment etc. I am not implying it must have involved Uber but I am just using the only data we have which is the last place he was where anyone saw him or heard from him was in that Uber combined with that 911 text which was the last phone activity he ever had as far as I know, is pretty eyebrow raising. I mean, his 40th birthday (a big one!) has come and gone, Christmas, New Years, Easter, his Nephews birthday, our beloved dog passed and Beau knew the dog was dying of end-stage cancer and the treatments were failing. Beau is extremely sensitive to the importance of events like all of these, to just not show up, or at at least call someone to say he was ok is not like Beau at all. Trust me, nothing would every get in the way of this man expressing his love for those he loved, he is the most loving man.

I understand what you’re saying also, the lack of money etc is strange. You knew Beau best and I’m sure your instincts are most accurate. While I don’t see any evidence that the Uber driver did anything wrong, I realize that’s the main lead that there is and would nevertheless hope Uber provided all information that they possibly could. If they haven’t handed over everything, then they should.

My main thought was about people I know contacting emergency services or contacting friends to do so for them when they perceive a danger that isn’t present — this has happened multiple times with people I know who have relapsed. I don’t mean to dismiss the 911 communication, because of course anyone can be in a genuine emergency, and that could well have been the case here obviously, and of course Beau may not have relapsed at all.

I truly hope Beau is okay and comes back safely soon.

 

[BelTin007]

I understand what you’re saying also, the lack of money etc is strange. You knew Beau best and I’m sure your instincts are most accurate. While I don’t see any evidence that the Uber driver did anything wrong, I realize that’s the main lead that there is and would nevertheless hope Uber provided all information that they possibly could. If they haven’t handed over everything, then they should.

My main thought was about people I know contacting emergency services or contacting friends to do so for them when they perceive a danger that isn’t present — this has happened multiple times with people I know who have relapsed. I don’t mean to dismiss the 911 communication, because of course anyone can be in a genuine emergency, and that could well have been the case here obviously, and of course Beau may not have relapsed at all.

I truly hope Beau is okay and comes back safely soon.

Thanks, Rusty, I understand what you mean. I just hope someone comes forward soon. If he is alive someone knows, Beau is a people person and 100% could not be without human interaction. If something happened, someone knows something as well. I just wish someone, anyone, would come forward who knows anything, the not knowing where he is -- is absolutely debilitating. I appreciate everyone's prayers and I check my messages including the spam everyday hoping some kind soul will help me locate him. Please keep praying everyone, Beau is loved by so many people and his business has and still is helping so many people all over the world.

 

[Lore Listener]

I get that people want to think that Uber is a safe and trustworthy company and they cooperated in finding Beau 100% and they wouldn't cover for a driver behaving suspiciously. After all, it's pretty hard to find a taxi these days.

I personally haven't gotten those impressions of Uber and the Uber driver in this case though. I cannot get over Beau's emergency call to Uber in the car or the fact that Beau was never seen again after that ride, nor the driver's changing story. I don't believe for a second that the driver just forgot a person who made an emergency call from their cab! (For example, I used to be a yoga teacher. Hundreds of people took my classes over the years. Like an Uber driver with hundreds of passengers, I probably wouldn't remember many of them even a week or two after they came to my class, especially those who only showed up once. But the one student who ever got injured in my class? I still remember her face and name--Jean--13 years later! She stumbled in a crow pose arm balance and bloodied her lip. It wasn't even such a bad injury, and I had experienced a traumatic brain injury just a few years before, but I have a crystal clear memory of that and her. Our brains record out-of-the-ordinary, emotionally charged experiences as part of our survival mechanism.)

Anyway, there are a couple of articles in the Washington Post today that strengthen my position that Uber is only out to cover its but and protect its bottom line, even at the expense of dishonesty and putting employees and passengers in danger. I believe more strongly than ever the driver must be investigated thoroughly and that Uber is more interested in avoiding or delaying a potential lawsuit or bad press than helping to find Beau.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/07/10/uber-taxi-driver-violence/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/07/10/uber-europe-raids-kill-switch/

 

[annpats]

I get that people want to think that Uber is a safe and trustworthy company and they cooperated in finding Beau 100% and they wouldn't cover for a driver behaving suspiciously. After all, it's pretty hard to find a taxi these days.

I personally haven't gotten those impressions of Uber and the Uber driver in this case though. I cannot get over Beau's emergency call to Uber in the car or the fact that Beau was never seen again after that ride, nor the driver's changing story. I don't believe for a second that the driver just forgot a person who made an emergency call from their cab! (For example, I used to be a yoga teacher. Hundreds of people took my classes over the years. Like an Uber driver with hundreds of passengers, I probably wouldn't remember many of them even a week or two after they came to my class, especially those who only showed up once. But the one student who ever got injured in my class? I still remember her face and name--Jean--13 years later! She stumbled in a crow pose arm balance and bloodied her lip. It wasn't even such a bad injury, and I had experienced a traumatic brain injury just a few years before, but I have a crystal clear memory of that and her. Our brains record out-of-the-ordinary, emotionally charged experiences as part of our survival mechanism.)

Anyway, there are a couple of articles in the Washington Post today that strengthen my position that Uber is only out to cover its but and protect its bottom line, even at the expense of dishonesty and putting employees and passengers in danger. I believe more strongly than ever the driver must be investigated thoroughly and that Uber is more interested in avoiding or delaying a potential lawsuit or bad press than helping to find Beau.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/07/10/uber-taxi-driver-violence/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/07/10/uber-europe-raids-kill-switch/

Absolutely amen to everything you've written!

 

[Kimkimba]

I get that people want to think that Uber is a safe and trustworthy company and they cooperated in finding Beau 100% and they wouldn't cover for a driver behaving suspiciously. After all, it's pretty hard to find a taxi these days.

I personally haven't gotten those impressions of Uber and the Uber driver in this case though. I cannot get over Beau's emergency call to Uber in the car or the fact that Beau was never seen again after that ride, nor the driver's changing story. I don't believe for a second that the driver just forgot a person who made an emergency call from their cab! (For example, I used to be a yoga teacher. Hundreds of people took my classes over the years. Like an Uber driver with hundreds of passengers, I probably wouldn't remember many of them even a week or two after they came to my class, especially those who only showed up once. But the one student who ever got injured in my class? I still remember her face and name--Jean--13 years later! She stumbled in a crow pose arm balance and bloodied her lip. It wasn't even such a bad injury, and I had experienced a traumatic brain injury just a few years before, but I have a crystal clear memory of that and her. Our brains record out-of-the-ordinary, emotionally charged experiences as part of our survival mechanism.)

Anyway, there are a couple of articles in the Washington Post today that strengthen my position that Uber is only out to cover its but and protect its bottom line, even at the expense of dishonesty and putting employees and passengers in danger. I believe more strongly than ever the driver must be investigated thoroughly and that Uber is more interested in avoiding or delaying a potential lawsuit or bad press than helping to find Beau.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/07/10/uber-taxi-driver-violence/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/07/10/uber-europe-raids-kill-switch/

These are my thoughts as well.

 

[Lore Listener]

There are a whole bunch more investigative articles regarding Uber again today in the WaPo. @BelTin007, maybe you could reach out to the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists:

The Uber Files - ICIJ

The secret story of how the tech giant won access to world leaders, cozied up to oligarchs and dodged taxes amid chaotic global expansion.

www.icij.org

or some of the WaPo reporters who worked on this investigation: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/uber-files-investigation/
with Beau's story. Seems like they might be more willing to ask tough questions and not accept evasive answers as compared to the LAPD. Just a thought--but I know you're desperate to try new avenues for getting the answers you and all Beau's loved ones deserve!

 

[bears10]

What motive does a random Uber driver have to kill Beau? We saw a video that Beau posted where he seemed very out of it, and IIRC he may have recently relapsed. Also, Didn’t he and his SO break up right before he disappeared? I personally would think he relapsed before I would accuse an Uber driver who seemingly had no motive. IME (losing a sister to addiction) and IMO, I think Uber is a red herring. Jmo jme and not trying to be insensitive. My sister died of a drug overdose last year, and pretty much everyone except me is in denial, regardless of the nurse flat out telling me what was in her system. So I understand where his loved ones are coming from, but I guess I can also put myself in the Uber drivers shoes.

 

[ChatteringBirds]

@bears10
I am very sorry for your loss.

This case is tough because if he has overdosed, where is he? If he relapsed but is alive, why hasn't he contacted anyone, and where is he?

 

[Lusitana]

I also don't think the Uber driver is that important of a piece here. He was most likely using again. Wasn't he seeing someone else too or is that from another case? Either way, something bad happened to him be it an accident or something else. For the sake of his family, I hope he's found.

 

[bears10]

@bears10
I am very sorry for your loss.

This case is tough because if he has overdosed, where is he? If he relapsed but is alive, why hasn't he contacted anyone, and where is he?

Thank you for your kind words.

It’s hard for me to even guess where he could be since I am not familiar with the area at all, and we also don’t know where he could have gone once he got out of the Uber. He could have went to someone’s house, overdosed, and they moved his body. He could be in the water, a wooded area, etc. unfortunately, I think he is no longer with us.

 

[pizzaman12]

I also don't think the Uber driver is that important of a piece here. He was most likely using again. Wasn't he seeing someone else too or is that from another case? Either way, something bad happened to him be it an accident or something else. For the sake of his family, I hope he's found.

I wouldn't discount the Uber driver and/or their knowledge. There is a reason there is an in app emergency feature that Beau used. Whether the Uber driver had anything to do with it or not is somewhat irrelevant. You need to gather as much information as possible so we're not simply speculating. Why not just get rid of the feature on the app if a procedure isn't adhered to anyway? You state "most likely using again" but that is purely speculation. I'm not saying a I disagree but that doesn't make it factual. I would also agree that something bad probably happened. I'm pretty sure I'd want to talk with the last person he was known to be around, especially given he utilized the emergency feature while with that person. I don't see how this information wouldn't be valuable except for someone who just think he's a junkie which is what I feel LEO has concluded based on their pathetic "investigation"

 

[bears10]

You state "most likely using again" but that is purely speculation. I'm not saying a I disagree but that doesn't make it factual.

Beaus fiancé stated on the Help Find Beau Facebook page that Beau had relapsed.

Justice For Beau Mann | I'm constantly getting asked if Beau ended his long- term relationship with me and yet another brave soul asked me yet again minutes ago.. | Facebook

I'm constantly getting asked if Beau ended his long- term relationship with me and yet another brave soul asked me yet again minutes ago... Addressing this rumor of Beau ending his long-term...

www.facebook.com

 

[pizzaman12]

Beaus fiancé stated on the Help Find Beau Facebook page that Beau had relapsed.

Justice For Beau Mann | I'm constantly getting asked if Beau ended his long- term relationship with me and yet another brave soul asked me yet again minutes ago.. | Facebook

I'm constantly getting asked if Beau ended his long- term relationship with me and yet another brave soul asked me yet again minutes ago... Addressing this rumor of Beau ending his long-term...

www.facebook.com

And??? My position doesn't change. So the last person who saw him alive was the same person who was driving the vehicle in which Beau used an emergency feature (which was not properly executed) and you don't feel their information is valuable or why the employee failed to follow protocol? Also, the fiancé said he relapsed...And? What does that do the any of the above? I won't comment on her but why should we take that as gospel. There far too many people that watch far too much tv that don't understand addition, relapse, etc...and the world they live in. I'm not going to drag her in but if you're engaged to a junkie/recovering...good chance you had your ups & downs. (not always). My point is why are we just assuming he's a relapsed junkie and nothing else happened yet the last efforts from him were utilizing the emergency feature in the app in regards to the last person who saw him alive? You'd think Uber would be all over this (assuming protocol was followed) which wasn't so we'll hear silence and I'm sure the LEO aren't doing anything about it and having a fiance saying he relapsed, so don't bother asking questions. I'd bet money this case isn't on their radar. I would love to be wrong

 

[Lusitana]

I wouldn't discount the Uber driver and/or their knowledge. There is a reason there is an in app emergency feature that Beau used. Whether the Uber driver had anything to do with it or not is somewhat irrelevant. You need to gather as much information as possible so we're not simply speculating. Why not just get rid of the feature on the app if a procedure isn't adhered to anyway? You state "most likely using again" but that is purely speculation. I'm not saying a I disagree but that doesn't make it factual. I would also agree that something bad probably happened. I'm pretty sure I'd want to talk with the last person he was known to be around, especially given he utilized the emergency feature while with that person. I don't see how this information wouldn't be valuable except for someone who just think he's a junkie which is what I feel LEO has concluded based on their pathetic "investigation"

We can speculate that the Uber driver was involved somehow but we can’t speculate that Beau was using? Why?

Look, as far as I remember, the LE told the family that they checked the Uber driver and he’s not a suspect. As far as I remember, his boyfriend stated Beau had relapsed. As far as I remember, it has been stated that he was involved with someone else. And, as far as I remember, CCTV from that day show a seemingly under the influence Beau.

I don’t think it’s fair or very logical to demand people use facts and not “speculate” but then allow yourself to do the same thing. Doesn’t make a lot of sense. What I remember is that LE not only was able to make contact with the “friend” he was supposed to meet that day but also with the Uber driver. Now what?

 

[pizzaman12]

We can speculate that the Uber driver was involved somehow but we can’t speculate that Beau was using? Why?

Look, as far as I remember, the LE told the family that they checked the Uber driver and he’s not a suspect. As far as I remember, his boyfriend stated Beau had relapsed. As far as I remember, it has been stated that he was involved with someone else. And, as far as I remember, CCTV from that day show a seemingly under the influence Beau.

I don’t think it’s fair or very logical to demand people use facts and not “speculate” but then allow yourself to do the same thing. Doesn’t make a lot of sense. What I remember is that LE not only was able to make contact with the “friend” he was supposed to meet that day but also with the Uber driver. Now what?

I'm not speculating the driver was involved at all. I was simply stating that even if they're not involved, I can't see how that person's information wouldn't be important which was stated above. The driver was literally the last person to see him while contacting 911 for help. I will add that I didn't recall LAPD even contacting the Uber driver but I see per the fiancé, the driver was finally interviewed about a month after. Uber hasn't done anything. I can't imagine that being standard operating procedure

In any investigation, information gathered from the last person and place is as routine as it gets (even without the 911). LAPD & Uber failed the basics

 

[bears10]

So the last person who saw him alive was the same person who was driving the vehicle in which Beau used an emergency feature (which was not properly executed) and you don't feel their information is valuable or why the employee failed to follow protocol?

Sure, I think the Uber driver could possibly offer valuable info on Beau's actions and behavior, which is why LE has already spoken to him. What protocol did he fail to follow? Also, the Uber driver is the last person we *know of* that saw Beau alive - once Beau was dropped off, he certainly could have been with people who haven't come forward for whatever reason.

Also, the fiancé said he relapsed...And? What does that do the any of the above? I won't comment on her but why should we take that as gospel.

What reason do we have to think the fiance is lying or misinformed about Beau relapsing? Also, his fiance is a male.

There far too many people that watch far too much tv that don't understand addition, relapse, etc...and the world they live in.

My sister died of a heroin overdose last year, so I understand addiction and relapse way more than I'd prefer. I am all too familiar with the world addicts live in.

I'm not going to drag her in but if you're engaged to a junkie/recovering...good chance you had your ups & downs. (not always). My point is why are we just assuming he's a relapsed junkie and nothing else happened yet the last efforts from him were utilizing the emergency feature in the app in regards to the last person who saw him alive?

We are assuming he relapsed because his fiance SAID HE RELAPSED. I don't think anyone here besides you has referred to him as a "junkie", which is probably because junkie is an insensitive and derogatory term.

Peace out.

 

[deadfoot13]

And??? My position doesn't change. So the last person who saw him alive was the same person who was driving the vehicle in which Beau used an emergency feature (which was not properly executed) and you don't feel their information is valuable or why the employee failed to follow protocol? Also, the fiancé said he relapsed...And? What does that do the any of the above? I won't comment on her but why should we take that as gospel. There far too many people that watch far too much tv that don't understand addition, relapse, etc...and the world they live in. I'm not going to drag her in but if you're engaged to a junkie/recovering...good chance you had your ups & downs. (not always). My point is why are we just assuming he's a relapsed junkie and nothing else happened yet the last efforts from him were utilizing the emergency feature in the app in regards to the last person who saw him alive? You'd think Uber would be all over this (assuming protocol was followed) which wasn't so we'll hear silence and I'm sure the LEO aren't doing anything about it and having a fiance saying he relapsed, so don't bother asking questions. I'd bet money this case isn't on their radar. I would love to be wrong

I'm in complete agreement with you that LE has written this off as "just another addict", it's a problem that keeps growing unchecked.

Before I write this next piece, I want to emphasize that this is in no way written to instigate you or be rude, it's only to prove a point.

You talk about assumptions and why would anyone make the assumption that he's just another relapsed junkie, etc., yet your posts refer to Beau's partner as "her" a couple of times when in fact Beau is engaged to a man. I myself am going to assume that your assumption is what is most common in your world and that you weren't saying it to be mean or obtuse or anything like that.

Right, wrong or otherwise, everyone makes assumptions in life. Although certain assumptions are necessary for LE (person is waving a gun around, you assume they will use it; person is dressed like a ninja and crawling through a window, you assume they are a burglar), changing times really demand that LE begins handling these types of situations differently and not just triaging things based on assumptions. Unfortunately, the ability to consider and decide on every situation isn't really possible due to the sheer volume, so they will continue to prioritize things based on assumption -- that means it's up to the rest of us to make them see that a situation is different from what they assume.