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GUILTY Ca - Becky Friedli, 18, Vicki, 53, & Jon Hayward, 55, Slain, Palm Desert, 17 Sep 2006
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Well, I just got a Google Alert on this. Looks like they did NOT go to trial in January! :dunno: and unfortunately, the article give a date for next hearing or even trial! :gaah:
At Pinyon Pines murder trial, prosecutors want to use strange video as evidence
https://www.desertsun.com/story/news/crime_courts/2018/02/28/pinyon-pines-strange-video/378312002/
Officially, the video just shows a murder suspect, left alone in an interview room for about an hour.
But to prosecutors, apparently, it is more than that.
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In the footage, Smith rebuffs questions from investigators, then allegedly makes "incriminating" statements while left alone in an interview room with photos of the victims. In an unusual twist, this allegation has been revealed by Smith's own lawyer, but prosecutors have declined to confirm.
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Both Pape and Smith have pleaded not guilty and are poised to begin trial within the next few months. On Friday, prosecutors filed several court motions arguing about what evidence should be permitted at the upcoming trial, including one motion focused solely on the video of Smith. The footage is not public and has been kept mostly secret by law enforcement, but glimpses of its contents have been revealed in court records over the past year.
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Last Friday, Deputy District Attorney Donald Ostertag filed a motion to introduce the video, saying it is admissible because Smith was told repeatedly he could leave the interview room at any time, which means he was not in custody and the detectives did not have to read him his rights at any point.
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Charges were refiled in 2016, with prosecutors saying they now had a stronger case, but court filings have never revealed any physical evidence tying Pape or Smith directly to the murders. Instead, the prosecution has come to rely on a collection of circumstantial evidence, including cell phone records, bullet calibers, shoe prints and statements from indirect witnesses.
more at link.
At Pinyon Pines murder trial, prosecutors want to use strange video as evidence
https://www.desertsun.com/story/news/crime_courts/2018/02/28/pinyon-pines-strange-video/378312002/
Officially, the video just shows a murder suspect, left alone in an interview room for about an hour.
But to prosecutors, apparently, it is more than that.
[.....]
In the footage, Smith rebuffs questions from investigators, then allegedly makes "incriminating" statements while left alone in an interview room with photos of the victims. In an unusual twist, this allegation has been revealed by Smith's own lawyer, but prosecutors have declined to confirm.
[.....]
Both Pape and Smith have pleaded not guilty and are poised to begin trial within the next few months. On Friday, prosecutors filed several court motions arguing about what evidence should be permitted at the upcoming trial, including one motion focused solely on the video of Smith. The footage is not public and has been kept mostly secret by law enforcement, but glimpses of its contents have been revealed in court records over the past year.
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Last Friday, Deputy District Attorney Donald Ostertag filed a motion to introduce the video, saying it is admissible because Smith was told repeatedly he could leave the interview room at any time, which means he was not in custody and the detectives did not have to read him his rights at any point.
[.....]
Charges were refiled in 2016, with prosecutors saying they now had a stronger case, but court filings have never revealed any physical evidence tying Pape or Smith directly to the murders. Instead, the prosecution has come to rely on a collection of circumstantial evidence, including cell phone records, bullet calibers, shoe prints and statements from indirect witnesses.
more at link.
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Ah, another Google Alert this morning - we have dates!! Sort of....
Pinyon homicide trial set for late March
http://idyllwildtowncrier.com/2018/02/28/pinyon-homicide-trial-set-late-march/
More than 10 years after the crime and 20 months since the defendants were re-arrested and re-charged, Judge Bernard Schwartz of the Riverside County Superior Court has set March 27 as a tentative start of the murder trial for Robert Lars Pape, 29, and Cristin Conrad Smith, 29.
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the Friday, Feb. 23, hearing, Schwartz announced that any new motions must be filed by March 9. Beginning March 27, and for the next two days, he will hear these new motions.
Smith’s attorney already has filed a paper with pre-trial motions and objections.
In early April, jury selection will begin. Schwartz ruled that Pape and Smith will have separate juries. DA’s Office Public Information Officer John Hall said one trial with two juries is not uncommon in Riverside County.
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Some of the new evidence included retesting of DNA found at the scene, which matches Smith’s, and that better forensic analysis of cell tower data places Smith and Pape closer to Pinyon Pines about the time when the murders were committed.
Sounds like the headline is kind of misleading. In article it states jury selection will be early April. March 27th is when Judge will hear any new motions.
Pinyon homicide trial set for late March
http://idyllwildtowncrier.com/2018/02/28/pinyon-homicide-trial-set-late-march/
More than 10 years after the crime and 20 months since the defendants were re-arrested and re-charged, Judge Bernard Schwartz of the Riverside County Superior Court has set March 27 as a tentative start of the murder trial for Robert Lars Pape, 29, and Cristin Conrad Smith, 29.
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the Friday, Feb. 23, hearing, Schwartz announced that any new motions must be filed by March 9. Beginning March 27, and for the next two days, he will hear these new motions.
Smith’s attorney already has filed a paper with pre-trial motions and objections.
In early April, jury selection will begin. Schwartz ruled that Pape and Smith will have separate juries. DA’s Office Public Information Officer John Hall said one trial with two juries is not uncommon in Riverside County.
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Some of the new evidence included retesting of DNA found at the scene, which matches Smith’s, and that better forensic analysis of cell tower data places Smith and Pape closer to Pinyon Pines about the time when the murders were committed.
Sounds like the headline is kind of misleading. In article it states jury selection will be early April. March 27th is when Judge will hear any new motions.
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Many motions to decide before Pinyon homicide trial begins
http://idyllwildtowncrier.com/2018/03/06/many-motions-to-decide-before-pinyon-homicide-trial-begins/
Later this month, Riverside County Superior Court Judge Bernard Schwartz will begin making decisions and issuing court orders that will lead to the trial of Robert Pape and Cristin Smith, charged with multiple counts of murder.
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The judge has already ruled there will be separate juries for each defendant.
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These included a motion to introduce a video of Smith from May 2012, when he was in the military stationed at Ft. Lewis in Washington. Military investigators brought him to an interrogation room to ask questions. Several times they told him he was not under arrest and so he did not receive his Miranda warning. He confirmed his understanding of his situation, according to the DA’s motion.
However, when the investigators left the room, they continued to record Smith. Several times he spoke out to himself and this is what the DA wants to introduce. The motion stresses that Smith was never in custody during this period.
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Another motion requests that the judge admit several recorded calls between Pape and his former wife, Sara Honaker Pape. These occurred in June 2014 after his first arrest.
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The DA’s Office also wants to admit statements that Smith made to Jeremy Todd Witt when they worked together in 2007 at Knott’s Soak City in Palm Springs.
Due to the 10% content - more at link.
These will be filed tomorrow, March 9th, and the judge will decide on these motions on March 27 & 28. Jury trial starts early April. No exact date that I've seen yet.
http://idyllwildtowncrier.com/2018/03/06/many-motions-to-decide-before-pinyon-homicide-trial-begins/
Later this month, Riverside County Superior Court Judge Bernard Schwartz will begin making decisions and issuing court orders that will lead to the trial of Robert Pape and Cristin Smith, charged with multiple counts of murder.
[.....]
The judge has already ruled there will be separate juries for each defendant.
[.....]
These included a motion to introduce a video of Smith from May 2012, when he was in the military stationed at Ft. Lewis in Washington. Military investigators brought him to an interrogation room to ask questions. Several times they told him he was not under arrest and so he did not receive his Miranda warning. He confirmed his understanding of his situation, according to the DA’s motion.
However, when the investigators left the room, they continued to record Smith. Several times he spoke out to himself and this is what the DA wants to introduce. The motion stresses that Smith was never in custody during this period.
[.....]
Another motion requests that the judge admit several recorded calls between Pape and his former wife, Sara Honaker Pape. These occurred in June 2014 after his first arrest.
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The DA’s Office also wants to admit statements that Smith made to Jeremy Todd Witt when they worked together in 2007 at Knott’s Soak City in Palm Springs.
Due to the 10% content - more at link.
These will be filed tomorrow, March 9th, and the judge will decide on these motions on March 27 & 28. Jury trial starts early April. No exact date that I've seen yet.
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Friday, March 9th:
*Motions Hearing - CA - Rebecca 'Becky' Annaleigh Friedli (18), Vicki Friedli (53) & Jon Hayward (55) (Mom's BF) (Sept. 17, 2006) - Cristin Conrad Smith (29/17 @ time of crime) faces LWOP (juvenile @ time of crime) accused & charged with 3 counts of murder w/special circumstances allegedly of committing multiple murders. Pled not guilty.
And Robert Lars Pape (28/18 @ time of crime) (ex-BF) charged with 3 counts of murder with special circumstances allegedly of committing multiple murders & faces the LWOP. Pled not guilty.
**Both arrested in March, 2014, but case was dismissed in October, 2014
3/1: Trial never started on January 22. Motions hearing on 2/23 re what evidence DA will introduce.
Today 3/9 filing date deadline for any Motions, Judge will hear them on Mar. 27th; trial to start early April.
*Motions Hearing - CA - Rebecca 'Becky' Annaleigh Friedli (18), Vicki Friedli (53) & Jon Hayward (55) (Mom's BF) (Sept. 17, 2006) - Cristin Conrad Smith (29/17 @ time of crime) faces LWOP (juvenile @ time of crime) accused & charged with 3 counts of murder w/special circumstances allegedly of committing multiple murders. Pled not guilty.
And Robert Lars Pape (28/18 @ time of crime) (ex-BF) charged with 3 counts of murder with special circumstances allegedly of committing multiple murders & faces the LWOP. Pled not guilty.
**Both arrested in March, 2014, but case was dismissed in October, 2014
3/1: Trial never started on January 22. Motions hearing on 2/23 re what evidence DA will introduce.
Today 3/9 filing date deadline for any Motions, Judge will hear them on Mar. 27th; trial to start early April.
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If anyone can find "what" motions were filed and what we might expect at the next hearing on March 27th, it would be appreciated!
TIA! :wave:
TIA! :wave:
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Tuesday, March 27th:
*Motions Hearing - CA - Rebecca 'Becky' Annaleigh Friedli (18), Vicki Friedli (53) & Jon Hayward (55) (Mom's BF) (Sept. 17, 2006) - Cristin Conrad Smith (29/17 @ time of crime) faces LWOP (juvenile @ time of crime) accused & charged with 3 counts of murder with special circumstances allegedly of committing multiple murders. Pled not guilty.
And Robert Lars Pape (29/18 @ time of crime) (ex-BF) charged with 3 counts of murder with special circumstances allegedly of committing multiple murders & faces the LWOP. Pled not guilty. There will be 2 separate juries.
**Both arrested in March, 2014, but case was dismissed in October, 2014
3/1: Trial never started on January 22. Motions hearing on 2/23 re what evidence DA will introduce.
Today 3/27 & tomorrow (3/28): Judge will hear any Motions from Mar. 9th; trial to start early April.
*Motions Hearing - CA - Rebecca 'Becky' Annaleigh Friedli (18), Vicki Friedli (53) & Jon Hayward (55) (Mom's BF) (Sept. 17, 2006) - Cristin Conrad Smith (29/17 @ time of crime) faces LWOP (juvenile @ time of crime) accused & charged with 3 counts of murder with special circumstances allegedly of committing multiple murders. Pled not guilty.
And Robert Lars Pape (29/18 @ time of crime) (ex-BF) charged with 3 counts of murder with special circumstances allegedly of committing multiple murders & faces the LWOP. Pled not guilty. There will be 2 separate juries.
**Both arrested in March, 2014, but case was dismissed in October, 2014
3/1: Trial never started on January 22. Motions hearing on 2/23 re what evidence DA will introduce.
Today 3/27 & tomorrow (3/28): Judge will hear any Motions from Mar. 9th; trial to start early April.
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Wednesday, March 28th:
*Motions Hearing Continued - CA - Rebecca 'Becky' Annaleigh Friedli (18), Vicki Friedli (53) & Jon Hayward (55) (Mom's BF) (Sept. 17, 2006) - Cristin Conrad Smith (29/17 @ time of crime) faces LWOP (juvenile @ time of crime) accused & charged with 3 counts of murder with special circumstances allegedly of committing multiple murders. Pled not guilty.
And Robert Lars Pape (29/18 @ time of crime) (ex-BF) charged with 3 counts of murder with special circumstances allegedly of committing multiple murders & faces the LWOP. Pled not guilty. There will be 2 separate juries.
**Both arrested in March, 2014, but case was dismissed in October, 2014
3/1: Trial never started on January 22. Motions hearing on 2/23 re what evidence DA will introduce.
Today (3/28): Judge will continue to hear any Motions from Mar. 9th; trial to start early April.
*Motions Hearing Continued - CA - Rebecca 'Becky' Annaleigh Friedli (18), Vicki Friedli (53) & Jon Hayward (55) (Mom's BF) (Sept. 17, 2006) - Cristin Conrad Smith (29/17 @ time of crime) faces LWOP (juvenile @ time of crime) accused & charged with 3 counts of murder with special circumstances allegedly of committing multiple murders. Pled not guilty.
And Robert Lars Pape (29/18 @ time of crime) (ex-BF) charged with 3 counts of murder with special circumstances allegedly of committing multiple murders & faces the LWOP. Pled not guilty. There will be 2 separate juries.
**Both arrested in March, 2014, but case was dismissed in October, 2014
3/1: Trial never started on January 22. Motions hearing on 2/23 re what evidence DA will introduce.
Today (3/28): Judge will continue to hear any Motions from Mar. 9th; trial to start early April.
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Motions Begin for Trial of Men Accused of Killing Three
https://mynewsla.com/crime/2018/03/27/motions-begin-for-trial-of-men-accused-of-killing-three/
Pretrial motions began Tuesday ahead of jury selection for the trial of two men accused of killing a Pinyon Pines family in 2006.
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Pape, who’s being held without bail at the Robert Presley Detention Center in Riverside, could face the death penalty if convicted.
Smith, who’s being held without bail at the Byrd Detention Center in Murrieta, was a juvenile at the time and would face life in prison without the possibility of parole if found guilty.
Riverside County Superior Court Judge Bernard Schwartz heard from the prosecution and defense regarding proposed witness lists and trial scheduling.
Jury selection is tentatively slated to begin Monday at the Riverside Hall of Justice and is expected to take at least two weeks.
and another article with dates!!
Suspects in Pinyon Pines triple murder case may be tried by separate juries
http://www.kesq.com/news/suspects-i...case-to-be-tried-by-separate-juries/721791589
Opening statements for the trial are set to begin on April 16. Cristin Smith's case will begin first with the opening statements and will be followed by Robert Pape's case.
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The maximum sentence for Pape and Smith if convicted as currently charged, would be life in prison without the possibility of parole.
In August, the Riverside County District Attorney Office decided not to seek the death penalty against Pape.
https://mynewsla.com/crime/2018/03/27/motions-begin-for-trial-of-men-accused-of-killing-three/
Pretrial motions began Tuesday ahead of jury selection for the trial of two men accused of killing a Pinyon Pines family in 2006.
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Pape, who’s being held without bail at the Robert Presley Detention Center in Riverside, could face the death penalty if convicted.
Smith, who’s being held without bail at the Byrd Detention Center in Murrieta, was a juvenile at the time and would face life in prison without the possibility of parole if found guilty.
Riverside County Superior Court Judge Bernard Schwartz heard from the prosecution and defense regarding proposed witness lists and trial scheduling.
Jury selection is tentatively slated to begin Monday at the Riverside Hall of Justice and is expected to take at least two weeks.
and another article with dates!!
Suspects in Pinyon Pines triple murder case may be tried by separate juries
http://www.kesq.com/news/suspects-i...case-to-be-tried-by-separate-juries/721791589
Opening statements for the trial are set to begin on April 16. Cristin Smith's case will begin first with the opening statements and will be followed by Robert Pape's case.
[.....]
The maximum sentence for Pape and Smith if convicted as currently charged, would be life in prison without the possibility of parole.
In August, the Riverside County District Attorney Office decided not to seek the death penalty against Pape.
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FINALLY - after 12 years....
Monday, April 2nd:
*Jury Selection begins - CA - Rebecca 'Becky' Annaleigh Friedli (18), Vicki Friedli (53) & Jon Hayward (55) (Mom's BF) (Sept. 17, 2006) - *Cristin Conrad Smith (29/17 @ time of crime) faces LWOP (juvenile @ time of crime) accused & charged with 3 counts of murder w/special circumstances allegedly of committing multiple murders. Pled not guilty.
*Robert Lars Pape (29/18 @ time of crime) (ex-BF) charged with 3 counts of murder with special circumstances allegedly of committing multiple murders & faces LWOP. Pled not guilty.
**Both arrested in March, 2014, but case was dismissed in October, 2014
Trial to start April 16. 2 separate juries.
:judge:
Monday, April 2nd:
*Jury Selection begins - CA - Rebecca 'Becky' Annaleigh Friedli (18), Vicki Friedli (53) & Jon Hayward (55) (Mom's BF) (Sept. 17, 2006) - *Cristin Conrad Smith (29/17 @ time of crime) faces LWOP (juvenile @ time of crime) accused & charged with 3 counts of murder w/special circumstances allegedly of committing multiple murders. Pled not guilty.
*Robert Lars Pape (29/18 @ time of crime) (ex-BF) charged with 3 counts of murder with special circumstances allegedly of committing multiple murders & faces LWOP. Pled not guilty.
**Both arrested in March, 2014, but case was dismissed in October, 2014
Trial to start April 16. 2 separate juries.
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I'm going to "assume" that jury selection continues today - as I haven't seen any updates....
Tuesday, April 3rd:
*Jury Selection (Day 2) - CA - Rebecca 'Becky' Annaleigh Friedli (18), Vicki Friedli (53) & Jon Hayward (55) (Mom's BF) (Sept. 17, 2006) - *Cristin Conrad Smith (29/17 @ time of crime) faces LWOP (juvenile @ time of crime) accused & charged with 3 counts of murder w/special circumstances allegedly of committing multiple murders. Pled not guilty.
*Robert Lars Pape (29/18 @ time of crime) (ex-BF) charged with 3 counts of murder with special circumstances allegedly of committing multiple murders & faces LWOP. Pled not guilty.
**Both arrested in March, 2014, but case was dismissed in October, 2014
Trial to start April 16. 2 separate juries.
Tuesday, April 3rd:
*Jury Selection (Day 2) - CA - Rebecca 'Becky' Annaleigh Friedli (18), Vicki Friedli (53) & Jon Hayward (55) (Mom's BF) (Sept. 17, 2006) - *Cristin Conrad Smith (29/17 @ time of crime) faces LWOP (juvenile @ time of crime) accused & charged with 3 counts of murder w/special circumstances allegedly of committing multiple murders. Pled not guilty.
*Robert Lars Pape (29/18 @ time of crime) (ex-BF) charged with 3 counts of murder with special circumstances allegedly of committing multiple murders & faces LWOP. Pled not guilty.
**Both arrested in March, 2014, but case was dismissed in October, 2014
Trial to start April 16. 2 separate juries.
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Haven't seen any updates on whether jury selection is still going, but I'm going to "assume" it is, as they have to pick 2 juries....
If anyone sees any updates - please post!
TIA.
If anyone sees any updates - please post!
TIA.
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Well, it looks like there was NO jury selection last week!!!
Trial preparations for Robert Pape and Cristin Smith, charged with the 2006 Pinyon murders of Jon Hayward, Vicki Friedli and Vicki’s daughter Becky, began last week.
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Superior Court Judge Bernard Schwartz’s decision to conduct one trial with two juries — one for each defendant.
But last week, both defendants agreed to a single jury.
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Schwartz plans to begin jury selection Tuesday, April 10, and begin the trial with opening statements on April 16.
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Besides preparation for jury selection, other pretrial motions will be before the court this week.
Trial preparations for Robert Pape and Cristin Smith, charged with the 2006 Pinyon murders of Jon Hayward, Vicki Friedli and Vicki’s daughter Becky, began last week.
[.....]
Superior Court Judge Bernard Schwartz’s decision to conduct one trial with two juries — one for each defendant.
But last week, both defendants agreed to a single jury.
[.....]
Schwartz plans to begin jury selection Tuesday, April 10, and begin the trial with opening statements on April 16.
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Besides preparation for jury selection, other pretrial motions will be before the court this week.
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Let's see if this is still a go....
Tuesday, April 10th:
*Jury Selection begins - CA - Rebecca 'Becky' Annaleigh Friedli (18), Vicki Friedli (53) & Jon Hayward (55) (Mom's BF) (Sept. 17, 2006) - *Cristin Conrad Smith (29/17 @ time of crime) faces LWOP (juvenile @ time of crime) accused & charged with 3 counts of murder w/special circumstances allegedly of committing multiple murders. Pled not guilty.
*Robert Lars Pape (29/18 @ time of crime) (ex-BF) charged with 3 counts of murder with special circumstances allegedly of committing multiple murders & faces LWOP. Pled not guilty.
**Both arrested in March, 2014, but case was dismissed in October, 2014
Trial to start April 16
12 years... it's time for JUSTICE!!
:judge:
Tuesday, April 10th:
*Jury Selection begins - CA - Rebecca 'Becky' Annaleigh Friedli (18), Vicki Friedli (53) & Jon Hayward (55) (Mom's BF) (Sept. 17, 2006) - *Cristin Conrad Smith (29/17 @ time of crime) faces LWOP (juvenile @ time of crime) accused & charged with 3 counts of murder w/special circumstances allegedly of committing multiple murders. Pled not guilty.
*Robert Lars Pape (29/18 @ time of crime) (ex-BF) charged with 3 counts of murder with special circumstances allegedly of committing multiple murders & faces LWOP. Pled not guilty.
**Both arrested in March, 2014, but case was dismissed in October, 2014
Trial to start April 16
12 years... it's time for JUSTICE!!
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Anyone see any updates on Jury selection for this case?
TIA! :wave:
I know trial starts this Monday, April 16th or will it??
Can't find any court dockets on this either....
TIA! :wave:
I know trial starts this Monday, April 16th or will it??
Can't find any court dockets on this either....
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Looks like it's a GO!!
Opening statements expected to begin Monday in Pinyon Pines triple murder case
http://www.myvalleynews.com/story/2...in-pinyon-pines-triple-murder-case/60421.html
Opening statements are expected to begin Monday in the trial of two men accused in the 2006 slaying of three people in Pinyon Pines.
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Both men face life in prison without the possibility of parole if they're convicted, according to Hall.
Opening statements expected to begin Monday in Pinyon Pines triple murder case
http://www.myvalleynews.com/story/2...in-pinyon-pines-triple-murder-case/60421.html
Opening statements are expected to begin Monday in the trial of two men accused in the 2006 slaying of three people in Pinyon Pines.
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Both men face life in prison without the possibility of parole if they're convicted, according to Hall.
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Monday, April 16th:
*Trial set to begin - CA - Rebecca 'Becky' Annaleigh Friedli (18), Vicki Friedli (53) & Jon Hayward (55) (Mom's BF) (Sept. 17, 2006) - *Cristin Conrad Smith (29/17 @ time of crime) faces LWOP (juvenile @ time of crime) accused & charged with 3 counts of murder w/special circumstances allegedly of committing multiple murders. Pled not guilty.
*Robert Lars Pape (29/18 @ time of crime) (ex-BF) charged with 3 counts of murder with special circumstances allegedly of committing multiple murders & faces LWOP. Pled not guilty.
**Both arrested in March, 2014, but case was dismissed in October, 2014
:judge:
*Trial set to begin - CA - Rebecca 'Becky' Annaleigh Friedli (18), Vicki Friedli (53) & Jon Hayward (55) (Mom's BF) (Sept. 17, 2006) - *Cristin Conrad Smith (29/17 @ time of crime) faces LWOP (juvenile @ time of crime) accused & charged with 3 counts of murder w/special circumstances allegedly of committing multiple murders. Pled not guilty.
*Robert Lars Pape (29/18 @ time of crime) (ex-BF) charged with 3 counts of murder with special circumstances allegedly of committing multiple murders & faces LWOP. Pled not guilty.
**Both arrested in March, 2014, but case was dismissed in October, 2014
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Guess no one is interested in this case. Can't find any twitters or live stream....
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Oh geez.... :doh: I keep forgetting I'm 10 hours ahead of California time....
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