Found Deceased CA - Blaze Bernstein, 19, Lake Forest, 2 Jan 2018 #6 *Arrest*

[animlzrule]

Animalirule,

Than you for bringing this to my attention. My belief was that you and another poster seemed to favor this as being a "hate Crime". I simply meant just because SW's ideology is a" conservative "one, his character and values will come into play...but not to prove at the time of the murder it was a Hate Crime.

Perhaps they will uncover the planning stage of this crime, and then premeditation could be examined as a Motive for it being a hate crime.

No. I think they'd have a hard time proving this was a hate crime. My point was more that some posters are dismissing the idea of "hate crimes" as a superfluous or meaningless designation. There are very real, logical reasons that the hate crime designation came to be. I believe SW had a lot of hate and ugliness in his heart as evidenced by his SM, but I'm not thinking of this particular murder in the aspect of a hate crime. Other posters are claiming that any discussion of SW's ideology is an insidious way to bring politics into the discussion. I don't think that there's a way to innocently ignore his SM postings, which went way beyond "innocuous postings" of "conservative values".

 

[stlrfninca]

Is the press conference streaming yet? I'm not seeing anything on the DA's Facebook page

 

[Deleted member 278]

I watched the video. She requested privacy for her family and the Berenstein family.

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Bernstein

 

[SleuthDr]

Arraignment 1:30 today. Charges on court website are murder and enhanced charge of personally using a deadly weapon

https://ocapps.occourts.org/Vision_PublicNS/Case.do#first

Is this more or less equivalent to 'Murder 1' (first degree)? I assume 'hate crime' is now off the table?

 

[animlzrule]

I watched the video. She requested privacy for her family and the Berenstein family.

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Keep digging that hole, lady... SMH.

 

[Cherry]

abc7.com/live/23340

 

[callyn]

NC has started

eta: lol, sorry, that was an old news conference that started up on DA facebook page

 

[borndem]

Whatever the reason, SW is a murderer. BB is his victim.

BB happens to be/have been openly gay.

SW was not, for whatever reason, be it closeted or straight.

They knew each other since high school.

They get together one night, go to places with surveillance cameras that capture their movements and then BB ends up dead, in a shallow grave, in a public park and SW calls the police within 4 hours of the murder and reports BB missing, taking LE to the park.

It doesn't sound premeditated. And, it sounds remorseful. He took LE to the body within 4 hours of killing him. Why? Guilt. Remorse. He wanted them to find the body.

What he did is horrific, it shows a lack of self-control that is unacceptable in a civilized world and he must be imprisoned to keep others safe. I suggest for his natural life. He is a danger to society as is every person who intentionally takes the life of another without any legal defense. I agree, wholeheartedly.

I just don't see any benefit to calling it a hate crime. Murder is hateful and none less hateful or more hateful than another. It is all hate.

A "hate crime" legally will put the killing, if it is charged as 1st Degree Murder, on a higher punishment level. If the jury decides it is indeed a hate crime, the penalty could be worse -- as we all know.

 

[Coquette]

I was hoping to make the arraignment, but can’t get away. I’m looking forward to Gitana’s report. I believe she’s there.

 

[Cherry]

Is the press conference streaming yet? I'm not seeing anything on the DA's Facebook page

abc7 live stream is up.
http://abc7.com/live/23340/

 

[Gussified]

Arraignment 1:30 today. Charges on court website are murder and enhanced charge of personally using a deadly weapon

https://ocapps.occourts.org/Vision_PublicNS/Case.do#first

So does the enhanced charge meet the requirement for ‘special circumstances’ that could lead to no bail?

 

[Vresia]

abc7 live stream is up.
http://abc7.com/live/23340/

http://abc7.com/live/23340/

 

[Cherry]

So does the enhanced charge meet the requirement for ‘special circumstances’ that could lead to no bail?

link,is broken for me?

 

[appleeye]

I don't have an issue with her discussing the Bernstein family.

I believe that the Woodwards are victims also.

They didn't ask for this.

 

[Deleted member 278]

Too much background noise!

 

[Tortoise]

A murder charge has been filed against a suspect in the death of a University of Pennsylvania student whose body was found buried and stabbed in a Southern California park.

A complaint filed in Orange County Superior Court Wednesday morning alleges 20-year-old Samuel Woodward used a knife to kill 19-year-old Blaze Bernstein.

http://www.metronews.ca/news/world/...harge-filed-in-college-student-s-killing.html

 

[Catonahottinroof]

link,is broken for me?

Its broken for me too

 

[SleuthDr]

link,is broken for me?

I am getting a Null Pointer which suggests that there is nothing attached to the website location we are trying to access.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

Bernstein

Apologies. I need to figure out how to delete certain autocorrect stuff out of my phone keyboard.

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[Mica]

abc7 live stream is up.
http://abc7.com/live/23340/

Just lost the stream. Anybody else?