CA CA - Blythe, WhtFem UP7020, 18-25, in open desert, ''Judy from San Antonio'', May'83

[Romulus]

Unidentified White Female

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  [*]The victim was discovered on May 1, 1983 in Blythe, Riverside County, California
  [*]Estimated Date of Death: 8 months-2 years prior
  [*]Skeletal Remains

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Vital Statistics

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  [*]Estimated age: 18-25 years old
  [*]Approximate Height and Weight: 4'10-5'2"; 185 lbs.
  [*]Distinguishing Characteristics: These skeletal remains are believed to a female Caucasian to include Hispanic. It is a 10% possibility that it is a male. No hair or eye color could be determined. Petite build. No scars, tattoos or disfigurements were observed.
  [*]Clothing: No clothing was located with her. No jewelry or identification was found.
  [*]Dentals: Available.

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Case History
The victim was located in the open desert area north of the I-10 freeway, east of Wiley's Well Road, Blythe, CA.
This skeletal remains was found above ground in the desert and reflected extreme exposure to the elements.
At one time Henry Lee Lucas took credit for the death of a young women in the vicinity and time that this woman's remains were found. He said that her name was Judy, possibly from San Antonio, Texas.
Over the years no family or missing person has been found.

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Investigators
If you have any information about this case please contact:
Riverside County Coroner
951-443-2300
You may remain anonymous when submitting information.
Agency Case Number:
51251 (U83-008)
Source Information:
Riverside County Sheriff's Office

 

[Dionysia]

Judie Munguia
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/8816/35

Judy Proud
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/8601/41

 

[Romulus]

Namus https://www.identifyus.org/en/cases/7020

Doe link http://www.doenetwork.org/hot/hotcase1282.html

 

[Dr.Strangelove]

Wait 4'10 - 5'2 and 185 pounds? And then they say a petite build? What would that even mean? I'd think that that weight at those heights would be a little over weight at least. I'm 4'11 and 105 pounds and I look "average" weight. Would petite in this case just mean short?

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[Romulus]

I search in Doe Network and find this profiles

Judy Silvester missing in 1977 from Virginia
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/684dfva.html

Judy Martins missing in 1978 from Ohio
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/2474dfoh.html

Judith Erin O'Donnel missing in 1980 from Maryland
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/39dfmd.html

Judy Ann Chartier missing in 1982 from Massachussets
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/10dfma.html

 

[EmmaliLucia]

Wait 4'10 - 5'2 and 185 pounds? And then they say a petite build? What would that even mean? I'd think that that weight at those heights would be a little over weight at least. I'm 4'11 and 105 pounds and I look "average" weight. Would petite in this case just mean short?

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5'2 and 185 lbs is obese. I'm guessing with extreme exposure to the elements and 10% chance of being male they wouldn't have been able to find markers telling weight. I'm thinking they meant to put about 105 just because that is fairly standard

 

[Tuck]

It says in a Los Angeles Times article that he picked her up in North Carolina.

 

[CarlK90245]

It just occurred to me that this Jane Doe might be Sheila Pauley. She lived in Blythe, and was LKA just across the river at a bar in Ehrenburg Arizona

I have been waiting for a year on a comparison to 84 Spokane Millie. They have never published the NamUs casefile citing a "likely match" without indicating which UP case she is likely matched to. She was LKA about 1979 or 1980, so the 8 months to 2 years timeframe timeframe doesn't quite get us to 79/80, but almost.

 

[digitective]

Judie Munguia
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/8816/35

Judy Proud
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/8601/41

Seems like they could possibly be a fit, did anyone submit?

 

[digitective]

I search in Doe Network and find this profiles

Judy Silvester missing in 1977 from Virginia
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/684dfva.html

Judy Martins missing in 1978 from Ohio
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/2474dfoh.html

Judith Erin O'Donnel missing in 1980 from Maryland
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/39dfmd.html

Judy Ann Chartier missing in 1982 from Massachussets
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/10dfma.html

Judy Martins, Judith O'Donnell and Judith Chartier all have dental records entered in NamUs, same as the JD, so they would have been auto-matched if they were a fit.
Probably worth submitting Judy Silvester, even though the distance is quite far and the amount of time since she disappeared is quite long.

 

[CarlK90245]

It just occurred to me that this Jane Doe might be Sheila Pauley. She lived in Blythe, and was LKA just across the river at a bar in Ehrenburg Arizona

I have been waiting for a year on a comparison to 84 Spokane Millie. They have never published the NamUs casefile citing a "likely match" without indicating which UP case she is likely matched to. She was LKA about 1979 or 1980, so the 8 months to 2 years timeframe timeframe doesn't quite get us to 79/80, but almost.

Since Sheila has been ruled-out as Spokane "Millie", I submitted her as a possible to this case.

This might be a difficult comparison, as there are no dentals for Sheila, and no DNA for the Jane Doe.

 

[rats]

Surely they would be able to have an inkling of whether or not to grab DNA based on if she has the gap in her teeth or not?

 

[CarlK90245]

Surely they would be able to have an inkling of whether or not to grab DNA based on if she has the gap in her teeth or not?

I talked to the Coroner's investigator this morning. She says that there were no good photos of the remains, and the autopsy report wasn't clear about whether or not the Jane Doe had a gap in her teeth, or an underbite.

 

[LanadelNay]

If he picked her up from NC, there's a possibility she could be Angela Hamby, a 20 year old who disappeared from Wilkes Co. in October 29, 1982.

 

[Romulus]

Doe Network link case update

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1335ufca.html

1335UFCA - Unidentified Female

Date of Discovery: May 1, 1983
Location of Discovery: Blythe, Riverside County, California
Estimated Date of Death: 1982 to 1983
State of Remains: Not recognizable - Partial skeletal parts only
Cause of Death: Unknown

Physical Description
Estimated Age: 18-30 years old
Race: White and/or Hispanic
Gender: Unsure - 90% chance female
Height: 4'10" to 5'2", Estimated
Weight: Unknown
Hair Color: Unknown or Completely Bald
Eye Color: Unknown or Missing
Distinguishing Marks/Features: Unknown

Identifiers
Dentals: Available
Fingerprints: Not Available
DNA: Not Available
Clothing & Personal Items

Clothing: None located.
Jewelry: None located.
Additional Personal Items: None located.

Circumstances of Discovery
The victim's skeletal remains were located above ground in the open desert area north of the I-10, east of Wiley's Well Road, in Blythe.
No obvious trauma was detected. The pathologist stated "90% chance that it is female, 90% chance it is between 18-30 years, 90% chance of it being between 58" and 62" in height, and had been dead greater than eight months."
At one time, Henry Lee Lucas took credit for the death of a young woman in the vicinity and within the time-frame that these remains were found. He said her name was Judy and she was possibly from San Antonio, Texas.
Investigating Agency(s)

Agency Name: Riverside County Coroner's Office
Agency Contact Person: Dawna Wimsatt
Agency Phone Number: 951-443-2300
Agency E-Mail: N/A
Agency Case Number: 51251
NCIC Case Number: Unknown
NamUs Case Number: 7020
Information Source(s)

Namus

 

[Richard]

Could this unidentified woman be Judy Ann Proud of Dallas, Texas who went missing on 24 August 1982?

Judy Ann Proud
Missing since August 24, 1982 from Dallas, Dallas county, Texas
Classification: Endangered Missing

Vital Statistics

• • Date Of Birth: November 1, 1947
  • Age at Time of Disappearance: 34 years old
  • Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 4'11"; 100 lbs.
  • Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Blonde hair; green eyes. Petite build.
• LINK: TX - TX - Judy Proud, 34, Dallas, 24 Aug 1982

 

[Melt71]

Could this unidentified woman be Judy Ann Proud of Dallas, Texas who went missing on 24 August 1982?

Judy Ann Proud
Missing since August 24, 1982 from Dallas, Dallas county, Texas
Classification: Endangered Missing

Vital Statistics

• • Date Of Birth: November 1, 1947
  • Age at Time of Disappearance: 34 years old
  • Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 4'11"; 100 lbs.
  • Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Blonde hair; green eyes. Petite build.
• LINK: TX - TX - Judy Proud, 34, Dallas, 24 Aug 1982

she was suggested as a match in above posts by in 2016 and followed up by @digitective in 2017 but unclear if she was formally submitted

 

[UnlicensedPI]

I don't think we should be looking at Judys from Texas, given Lucas' propensity to lie. (Or at least we shouldn't limit ourselves to Judys from Texas, in the off chance that happens to fit her circumstances.)

 

[UnlicensedPI]

Maybe, Graciela Maldonado? 28yo, short, was known to move around a lot and lived in California. Her family lost touch with her sometime in 1982.
The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

 

[rainwaterstill]

I search in Doe Network and find this profiles

Judy Silvester missing in 1977 from Virginia
The Doe Network: Case File 684DFVA

Judy Martins missing in 1978 from Ohio
The Doe Network: Judy Martins - 2474DFOH

Judith Erin O'Donnel missing in 1980 from Maryland
The Doe Network: Case File 39DFMD

Judy Ann Chartier missing in 1982 from Massachussets
The Doe Network: Case File 10DFMA

Judith O' Donnell from MD is listed as 5 ft 10 inches tall. Definitely not her.