Found Deceased CA - British actor Julian Sands, 65, missing in Mount Baldy area, San Gabriel Mountains, last seen 13 Jan 2023

Just a thought, but are there any mountain lions in the hiking area?
I'm sure there are.

We here in Palm Springs, CA, are about an hour from Mt. Baldy and at the foot of Mt. San Jacinto: two of the three peaks over 10,000' in Southern California. (The third and tallest is Mt. San Gorgonio, about halfway in between the other two, just outside San Bernardino.)

Despite the many millions of people living at lower elevations, the mountains are quite rugged. It isn't unusual for hikers to go missing or even die in ANY season, but as has been noted, it's especially dangerous during winter storms.

And, yes, the mountain ranges in California have mountain lions. Supposedly, those in our area are collared and monitored electronically by park services to insure they don't wander down into town.
 
The search for Julian Sands has entered its 11th day amid a warning of strong winds and gusts of up to 62 to 67mph.

In the latest update, the Warlock star’s family has thanked California authorities for their “heroic” efforts in the search for the missing British actor.

“Our heartfelt thanks to the compassionate members of the San Bernardino County Sheriff’s Department who are coordinating the search for our beloved Julian, not least the heroic search teams listed below who are braving difficult conditions on the ground and in the air to bring Julian home,” the statement read.

On 23 January, the National Weather Service reported high winds affecting the Santa Ana mountain region and San Bernandino, close to the San Gabriel mountains where Sands is believed to have gone missing. An alert warned of possible power outages, travel disruption, and the risk of falling trees.

 
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It's so troubling to read all of the missing/dead hiker cases. While most are inadequately prepared, some are very experienced and an accident can happen to anyone.
But I really liked @RickshawFan 's earlier post about wishing people would turn around as soon as they sense a problem. It's not fair to the SAR teams to have to put their own lives at risk...particularly in the cases where people were ill-prepared or too ego-driven.
 
Julian Sands’ brother Nick has said that he knows “in my heart” that his sibling is no longer alive, as the search for the missing British actor entered its 11th day.

In comments to his local Yorkshire paper, the Craven Herald, Mr Sands said: “He has not yet been declared missing, presumed dead, but I know in my heart that he has gone. However sibling rivalry being what it is, it would be just like him to walk out of there and prove me wrong.”

 
It's now 11 days since he was last seen. I find it hard to believe he would still be alive, simply from the food and water aspect aside from any possible physical injury.
I think you are probably right, but people can go quite awhile without food.

Not so long without water, but snow and ice can stand in for liquid water, obviously.
 
I am not a hiker. I am more of a beach walker. Question for you hikers. I have noticed quite a few people missing, killed, or found dead from hiking in various areas. Based on what I am seeing about JS he is an experienced hiker. Do hikers choose to go out alone or do most prefer to go with a partner? I was always taught to never go in the ocean alone. Is that the same rule for hikers?
The conditions did not seem great for his hike but with his experience, could he have felt confident that he could handle the conditions?
This is sad. IMHO this is no looking like as good outcome.
There are many, many groups who organize outings online. With some research and recommendations, you can find safe and reputable groups for people of any experience level. It takes a little work, but I have spent many years cultivating good relationships with people I trust. I never go hiking or mountaineering alone. The quicker weather or conditions could turn deadly, imo, the more you need to have a partner.

It is my strong opinion that Search and Rescue teams should not be put in harms’ way because of us. Having at least 2 and preferably 4 in a group is ideal, one to stay with an injured hiker and two more to go together for help. At least your partner can alert authorities that you’ve had a mishap. Most SAR are volunteers and they are not standing by to serve us. They sacrifice and put themselves at risk to help people. Imo


 
I think you are probably right, but people can go quite awhile without food.

Not so long without water, but snow and ice can stand in for liquid water, obviously.
Imo, based on experience, the weather conditions would permit survival only with proper gear: a stove with enough fuel to melt snow for water for 11 days, proper clothing to survive in a snow cave, or a 4-season tent and proper sleeping bag, etc., to survive inside. Unfortunately, I think it has been pretty well-established JS did not have this gear with him, as he did not intend to stay in the snow and ice overnight. Imo
 
One of the missing hikers on Mt Baldy was found alive.

A 75-year-old man who had disappeared while hiking on Mount Baldy over the weekend has been found alive on Tuesday.

Jin Chung, 75, from North Hollywood, was found responsive and transported to a hospital for treatment, confirmed the San Bernardino County Sheriff’s Department.

He had suffered a leg injury and some weather-related wounds, officials said. Chung was first reported missing around 6 a.m. on Sunday.
 
There are many, many groups who organize outings online. With some research and recommendations, you can find safe and reputable groups for people of any experience level. It takes a little work, but I have spent many years cultivating good relationships with people I trust. I never go hiking or mountaineering alone. The quicker weather or conditions could turn deadly, imo, the more you need to have a partner.

It is my strong opinion that Search and Rescue teams should not be put in harms’ way because of us. Having at least 2 and preferably 4 in a group is ideal, one to stay with an injured hiker and two more to go together for help. At least your partner can alert authorities that you’ve had a mishap. Most SAR are volunteers and they are not standing by to serve us. They sacrifice and put themselves at risk to help people. Imo


Thanks for the information. My husband was a Coast Guard Search and Rescue pilot and I understand searchers being put in harms way.
 
There are many, many groups who organize outings online. With some research and recommendations, you can find safe and reputable groups for people of any experience level. It takes a little work, but I have spent many years cultivating good relationships with people I trust. I never go hiking or mountaineering alone. The quicker weather or conditions could turn deadly, imo, the more you need to have a partner.

It is my strong opinion that Search and Rescue teams should not be put in harms’ way because of us. Having at least 2 and preferably 4 in a group is ideal, one to stay with an injured hiker and two more to go together for help. At least your partner can alert authorities that you’ve had a mishap. Most SAR are volunteers and they are not standing by to serve us. They sacrifice and put themselves at risk to help people. Imo


I so much agree. What we've been running into on several of the recent cases are ad hoc groups assembled via FB or Meetup. If you'll notice, these groups are splitting up during the hike—as in this "second hiker's" case—the hikers can be poorly matched, don't feel responsible for each other, goad each other into ill-advised or poorly-equipped outings, etc.

The government of BC Canada has been specifically warning against those kinds of groups. Story about one woman's experience:

Like @Tower with his/her organization examples here, I point to the need to go in a group that you can trust. I 'm in favor of a group with a long history like the Mountaineers, especially if you're newish or going into unfamiliar conditions. Learn from them, and get experience, listen to how they make decisions, and how to gear up. They will have different ideas than you do: this is very valuable. Mountaineers is one example of these groups. There's also Sierra Club (e.g. local chapters), Green Mountain Club, AMC, ATC, LatinX Hikers, Obsidians, Mazamas, Outdoor Afro, well-established university outing clubs..... You can also get training from outdoor companies (e.g. REI). Even the State of New Hampshire Fish & Game (the SAR leads in NH)! For just a nominal fee.

Even read trip reports on the Mountaineers and American Alpine sites! You'll find out about good decisions and bad decisions. Get their gear lists..... (If you go on one of their trips, you might even have to show the contents of your pack before you head out; if you aren't equipped properly, you can put the rest of the group in danger, especially in winter. I once went on a Sierra Club wilderness trip, where yep, the contents of our packs were inspected. Everyone else had their little tricks to pass, except me: it was humiliating.......).

I also don't go out if I think there's a risk I might need SAR, e.g. if my knee is twinging. It's not fair to them IMO.
 
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I took a look at the trail and… yikes. It’s strenuous in the summer and positively beastly in winter. If you start up the bowl in the snow, you pretty much have to keep going, there’s nowhere to rest and it’s steep AF. The ridge line has steep drops to either side, if you fall, you don’t stop for a long time. I think he slipped and fell.

The trail is tricky to follow in places, more so in the snow. It’s easy to get lost and end up in a dead end ravine or on a trail to a neighboring peak. Oof.
 
The search for missing actor Julian Sands is set for its third week, with authorities using new technology that can detect electronic devices and credit cards in their desperate search.

The Sheriff's Department in San Bernardino says it is "hopeful" the technology will be able to more accurately pinpoint an area on which to focus efforts, which have been limited to air searches of late.

Searching on higher ground are said to still not be possible because of the poor conditions in the Mount Baldy area the star went missing in.

[...]

"The search for Julian Sands continues by air only. The California Highway Patrol – Valley Division Air Ops from Auburn, California, is currently assisting us in the search using a Recco device.

"Recco technology can detect Recco reflective material, electronics, and in some cases, credit cards."

It continued: "We are hopeful our @chp_hq partners, Officers Hertzell & Calcutt, can pinpoint an area where we can focus our search efforts, and we thank them for their assistance."

So far, infrared devices have also been used by authorities, but they've unfortunately had no effect.

 

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