CA CA - Bryce Laspisa, 19, Castaic, 30 Aug 2013 - #3

[Whiteorchids]

Hi, I've been a lurker. Just wanted to put my two cents in. I've been involved in two search for missing people within the past 3 years. My husband's niece and my husband. I was the one who found my husband's niece body and almost found my husband's body, but thankfully turned around very close before I reached it. Both were from suicide. Both very different cases. The niece was 19, bipolar and had just broke up with her boyfriend. my husband at age 30 was completely a shock. Never seemed depressed. We didn't have any marital or financial problems. My only theory that makes sense to me is that he had some sort of mental breakdown or onset of mental illness that he was hiding. I found a podcast on his phone, the last thing he downloaded which was about schizophrenia. I know I'm starting to ramble but it should be pointed out that schizophrenia does have onset around Bryce's age, and is often linked to marijuana abuse, and could explain BL's odd behavior.

As far as the search, in both cases, both bodies were found between a half mile and a mile from the car they left. Both searches were sending people very far from the car sites to places that seemed very unlikely to me. Both bodies were found close to visible trails, but were a few feet off kind of hidden off the trail. Helicopters and LE both failed to find the bodies, how I have no idea, they were not far from the cars and were in fairly obvious areas, but were missed by both volunteers, LE, dogs, and helicopters initially. It also should be noted that I used search dogs and they picked up scents in locations that do not make sense at all in terms of where the bodies were found.

I live very close to Castaic and have been wanting to help but don't know if it would be an emotionally healthy thing for me to do. I did drive up there Wednesday afternoon and found the crash site, watched hawks and buzzards, tried to sense where he would go, but felt very odd and not very safe physically or emotionally by myself there. The lake is also so big and all the places and trails he could be quite overwhelmed me. Has the mile radius from the crash site been searched thoroughly? I also am interested about the other side of the dam across from the crash site. I did see a few vultures fly that way, but had no idea how I could get across there safely. It was also frustrating that the lake wanted to charge me when I said I was helping so I had to park up off Lake Hughes and spend most of my time walking just to get to where I wanted to start searching. I also drove by the crash site yesterday but did not see any search teams out.

I don't know if any of my rambling helps at all, but I just wanted to put out there that I think a very thorough search from the crash site should be performed. And that as they are searching they should be looking with the eyes of someone who may be suicidal or have had a psychotic break. Anywhere he could have hidden, maybe OD'd, anywhere he could have gotten stuck or hurt from, ie jumping from the dam to the lower lagoon. I know this is morbid, but it just seems like it should be ruled out. These were all things that LE seemed to dismiss and rule out in both my husbands and nieces case, but were unfortunately untrue and the search they performed just wasn't thorough enough.

So sorry to hear about what happened to your loved ones. My heart breaks for you and what a brave strong person you are to have survived this terrible tragedy. I will pray for you.

My oldest handsome, smart son who is now 30 was diagnosed with schizophrenia/ bi-polar at age 20. He was a straight A student all through HS with high honors and lots of friends. He went off to college in Sacramento and never came back the same. It all started going downhill when he started self medicating with the Adderrall that he was introduced to by his Fraternity and would take off alone on trips and would go missing for weeks and just stopped going to college. He has been in and out of jail and psych hospitals ever since. He was athletic, an avid baseball, pop warner football player, snowboarder, skateboarder, and on the college wake-boarding team. He was amazing. This has been a living hell for our family for 10 years and continuing as this is a life-time illness there is no cure. He has refused taking his monthly antipsychotic injection and lithium meds because it makes him feel lethargic, sleepy like jello 24/7 so his mental health is declining rapidly. It's like my son has a brain tumor because he is not that same wonderful fun loving guy I raised through HS. It breaks my heart that so many young people are lost to mental illness. Nobody in my large network family has ever had any signs of mental illness. My son is the first case. We denied it was this in the beginning but the behavior continued with increasing episodes so eventually with enough Drs diagnosing him we came to terms with it.

Thank you so much for posting this. You are not alone and are a blessing to pass on the word!!!


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[EGirl]

OK, I am desperately behind here. Did they identify the burned body?

 

[Trackergd]

Wow, I'm impressed. Feldjäger are great in tracing somebody. I read about some missing girl a few days ago, that the fbi is now on board.
If I got that right, if the vanished is a at high risk missing person, the case is provided to nationwide LE . So every state must have know that bl is missing.(police departments) found this very informative https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=...10cycle/30Abills/0530a01anjmissingpersons.pdfsend from GT-N7105 with Tapatalk 2

FBI ist das gleiche wie das Bundeskriminalamt mit einigen kulturellen Unterschieden.

And you have now about reached my limit of conversational German...

 

[SmartSassyBBW]

So sorry to hear about what happened to your loved ones. My heart breaks for you and what a brave strong person you are to have survived this terrible tragedy. I will pray for you.

My oldest handsome, smart son who is now 30 was diagnosed with schizophrenia/ bi-polar at age 20. He was a straight A student all through HS with high honors and lots of friends. He went off to college in Sacramento and never came back the same. It all started going downhill when he started self medicating with the Adderrall that he was introduced to by his Fraternity and would take off alone on trips and would go missing for weeks and just stopped going to college. He has been in and out of jail and psych hospitals ever since. He was an avid baseball, pop warner football player, snowboarder, skateboarder, and on the college wake-boarding team. He was amazing. This has been a living hell for our family for 10 years and continuing as this is a life-time illness there is no cure. He has refused taking his monthly antipsychotic injection and lithium meds so his mental health is declining rapidly. It's like my son has a brain tumor because he is not that same wonderful fun loving guy I raised through HS. It breaks my heart that so many young people are lost to mental illness. Nobody in my large network family has ever had any signs of mental illness. My son is the first case. We denied it was this in the beginning but the behavior continued with increasing episodes so eventually with enough Dr diagnosing him we came to terms with it.

Thank you so much for posting this. You are not alone and are a blessing to pass on the word!!!


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Oh my. My heart is aching reading the sad stories of loss. The reason I am here is to offer support in whatever way I can. In sharing your stories of loss know that those of us listening are offering up our prayers and healing thoughts to those of you so overly burdened with sadness. We hear you and send our love to you. Thank you for joining us here in this community and for reaching out to help others who are hurting.

 

[Jillybean78]

Hi, I've been a lurker. Just wanted to put my two cents in. I've been involved in two search for missing people within the past 3 years. My husband's niece and my husband. I was the one who found my husband's niece body and almost found my husband's body, but thankfully turned around very close before I reached it. Both were from suicide. Both very different cases. The niece was 19, bipolar and had just broke up with her boyfriend. my husband at age 30 was completely a shock. Never seemed depressed. We didn't have any marital or financial problems. My only theory that makes sense to me is that he had some sort of mental breakdown or onset of mental illness that he was hiding. I found a podcast on his phone, the last thing he downloaded which was about schizophrenia. I know I'm starting to ramble but it should be pointed out that schizophrenia does have onset around Bryce's age, and is often linked to marijuana abuse, and could explain BL's odd behavior.


As far as the search, in both cases, both bodies were found between a half mile and a mile from the car they left. Both searches were sending people very far from the car sites to places that seemed very unlikely to me. Both bodies were found close to visible trails, but were a few feet off kind of hidden off the trail. Helicopters and LE both failed to find the bodies, how I have no idea, they were not far from the cars and were in fairly obvious areas, but were missed by both volunteers, LE, dogs, and helicopters initially. It also should be noted that I used search dogs and they picked up scents in locations that do not make sense at all in terms of where the bodies were found.

I live very close to Castaic and have been wanting to help but don't know if it would be an emotionally healthy thing for me to do. I did drive up there Wednesday afternoon and found the crash site, watched hawks and buzzards, tried to sense where he would go, but felt very odd and not very safe physically or emotionally by myself there. The lake is also so big and all the places and trails he could be quite overwhelmed me. Has the mile radius from the crash site been searched thoroughly? I also am interested about the other side of the dam across from the crash site. I did see a few vultures fly that way, but had no idea how I could get across there safely. It was also frustrating that the lake wanted to charge me when I said I was helping so I had to park up off Lake Hughes and spend most of my time walking just to get to where I wanted to start searching. I also drove by the crash site yesterday but did not see any search teams out.

I don't know if any of my rambling helps at all, but I just wanted to put out there that I think a very thorough search from the crash site should be performed. And that as they are searching they should be looking with the eyes of someone who may be suicidal or have had a psychotic break. Anywhere he could have hidden, maybe OD'd, anywhere he could have gotten stuck or hurt from, ie jumping from the dam to the lower lagoon. I know this is morbid, but it just seems like it should be ruled out. These were all things that LE seemed to dismiss and rule out in both my husbands and nieces case, but were unfortunately untrue and the search they performed just wasn't thorough enough.

So sorry about both your losses . That's just terrible. It's definitely understandable that it may be too much for you to help. I'm sure it would bring back many emotions.
This is very helpful information. I think I might have to agree that the closer areas need to be thoroughly searched. I hear of LE looking over things all the time. Hopefully the volunteers on foot have searched those areas.

 

[Voice4theSilent]

Originally Posted by Voice4theSilent View Post
Anyone with a sneaky teenage kid and an iphone knows that there are numerous applications in which you can use to send messages that wouldn't show up in your message folder, not to mention Facebook, Instagram, Kik, snap chat, etc. There are also applications to hide application on your phone so that they are very difficult to find if you don't know what you are looking for. Also, if he received/sent a text message all he would have to do is delete it off of his phone and there wouldn't be a record of it on his phone or, more than likely, on his cell phone bill. I don't know about all carriers but my cell phone bill only tells me the number of text messages sent/received, not the specific number, date and time each was sent/received.



That is not true. LE has the laptop and cell phone and are able to retrieve texts on phones that were deleted and emails that were sent and deleted on laptops.
I thought my sister had these but she was just informed early on that there were no calls made out of the ordinary, according to the call log on the phone itself
We do not have the results/info from LE as to what else they might have found out about the phone or laptop

Thank you for your response. My information above about the different applications and ways to communicate with others outside of sending a text message or placing a phone call with a smart phone was in response to family members stating there were no odd phone calls / messages on the AT&T billing statements, not in response to what LE may have found on the actual phone. I know that LE has capabilities of pulling up information on phones (and computers) that may have been deleted or that parents may not be able to access, and we haven't, obviously, been privy to their results. Thanks for clearing up the information on where the phone and computer is. Hoping that there is a real possibility that there may be some information on the computer or the phone that may prove useful in finding Bryce.

 

[CatFancier]

OK, I am desperately behind here. Did they identify the burned body?

Yes, not Bryce.

 

[CatFancier]

Welcome Tamrabbit! Your perspective is so helpful to us here!

 

[gitana1]

I wish I could write in german, that would made it easier for me to explain the conclusions I came up with.
So please excuse if its hard to understand what I mean.
First, I'm a bit mad why there looking in castaic again. Why not Buttonwillow?
Second, it doesn't make sense to me to leave the engine running because of ac, but maybe it is necessary, in german cars you can have the ac running independent from the engine . It runs over the battery. The key just have to pull halfway. Also it didn't make sense for me to run the ac but have a window open, the cold air will leak.
Jmo. And don't want to offended a1.
@gitana.. I think I misunderstood but your last post sounds a bit sarcastic to me. No offense.

Bolded by me.

Nope, not sarcastic at all. I'm quite serious. I love the Bryce threads. Some of the other threads can occasionally devolve into bizarre, far-fetched craziness but not this one. People are combing through the facts we know with such a fine tooth comb that they are catching things and asking questions I never would have caught or thought of. Excellent sleuthing on here.

 

[deicide]

FBI ist das gleiche wie das Bundeskriminalamt mit einigen kulturellen Unterschieden.

And you have now about reached my limit of conversational German...

are you sure about that?

Can we make arrangement, I send you my opinions in german and you translate it.
Something popped up again in my head when I reread the last posts. We have here the same mobile options. A contract or this pay as you go, or whatever this is called. But over here even for the pre-paid you need an ID to register the phone. Really have no clue how's that in the US. But if you have to do so, it's maybe worth an equire if bl have had such a mobile.

 

[gitana1]

Allow me to interject. I ran the search centers for Danielle van dam, Amber Dubois and Chelsea king. When a search center is being established, it can take some time for actual searches to commence as there is much training going on behind the scenes. For example, when our group arrives on scene, we bring two or three members of our organization with us, but then have to train volunteers from the community to do these jobs. There's no other way to say this, but it just takes time. once these groups are trained, the searches really take off and much is accomplished. I have personally worked with both Mark Klaas and Brad Dennis, his search director and with Carrie of Team Amber and can assure you that they are consummate professionals and work tirelessly in their efforts to help the families of missing children. I've noticed that you are concerned that TES isn't involved, please keep in mind that you simply can't have too many search groups involved as it can create more confusion and has the potential to stymy the efforts. If you have too many chefs in the kitchen, somehow the water will become over salted.

:fireworks::welcome::fireworks:

They are not a well known search team with as many resources as TES nor have the track record and reputation. Whatever, I'm tired of asking. If it was my son thats one search team I would have on my team even if I had to personally fly toTexas and grab Tim Miller and his crew and bring them back with me LOL. You might want to get team amber to get some PC and media attention because as of now it's lacking and people are losing interest in this case.

Also, when Tim Miller and TES is involved in a search he is always in front of the camera on the news talking about the case to get the word out and updates. I've not seen one person from Team Amber on the news talking about this case nor on the Nancy Grace show.

I hope he is found soon.

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Amber's team has the same knowledge as TES. TES may have more equipment but TES only searches upon invitation by LE which has not happened here. So there is no use urging the family to badger TES into coming. They won't until LE allows it.

Also, TES has limited resources. They are a Texas organization and can only handle a certain amount of searches. They are already involved in a few right now, closer to home, I believe. They don't have the funding to go anywhere in the country that someone goes missing.

Those are just the facts.

Team Amber was trained by Brad Dennis of Klaas kids and are very well respected, they were the team that found Michelle Le.

That's right. They are a young organization but very good. True, TES has likely found more people but they've been around longer (13) years).

Be gentle with me, I'm new on the posting, but been reading for weeks.... Here's my burning question: There were two different sightings of a person matching Bryce's description, both posted on the Find Bryce FB page. One on September 10th at the Habit in Valencia (see: https://www.facebook.com/FINDBRYCELASPISA/posts/623898800987860 ) and a few days later on September 12th, at the intersection of McBean and Valencia (see: https://www.facebook.com/FINDBRYCELASPISA/posts/624930760884664) which is 1.4 miles from the first spot. IMO, if I were to believe this is Bryce, and looking back at his behavior from the moment his friends took his car keys, through Buttonwillow, to the trips to Castaic (two) and then to these sightings of someone who is "out of it" or confused, I would (IMO) say that a combination of Adderal, with alcohol, and maybe a few other things mixed in, created a fugue state originally, which was then made worse by the accident. (Some 29 years ago, I rolled my car down a slope, and thanks to a seat belt, stepped out of the car, and locked the door, though there were no windows remaining!)

Bryce could be walking, just walking, aware enough to seek water, but with a small brain bleed or other head trauma (swelling). Would explain why the cell phone was left behind. I think of my accident and how I was determined to find a phone at a gas station. Then, could not remember a single phone number.

See attached map for sightings. Hopefully great effort is being made to search McBean and surrounding streets for places Bryce could curl up and take a nap unseen. Just my musings... Truly hope we find him, safe and sound:newhere:.

:fireworks::welcome::fireworks:

Hi, I've been a lurker. Just wanted to put my two cents in. I've been involved in two search for missing people within the past 3 years. My husband's niece and my husband. I was the one who found my husband's niece body and almost found my husband's body, but thankfully turned around very close before I reached it. Both were from suicide. Both very different cases. The niece was 19, bipolar and had just broke up with her boyfriend. my husband at age 30 was completely a shock. Never seemed depressed. We didn't have any marital or financial problems. My only theory that makes sense to me is that he had some sort of mental breakdown or onset of mental illness that he was hiding. I found a podcast on his phone, the last thing he downloaded which was about schizophrenia. I know I'm starting to ramble but it should be pointed out that schizophrenia does have onset around Bryce's age, and is often linked to marijuana abuse, and could explain BL's odd behavior.

As far as the search, in both cases, both bodies were found between a half mile and a mile from the car they left. Both searches were sending people very far from the car sites to places that seemed very unlikely to me. Both bodies were found close to visible trails, but were a few feet off kind of hidden off the trail. Helicopters and LE both failed to find the bodies, how I have no idea, they were not far from the cars and were in fairly obvious areas, but were missed by both volunteers, LE, dogs, and helicopters initially. It also should be noted that I used search dogs and they picked up scents in locations that do not make sense at all in terms of where the bodies were found.

I live very close to Castaic and have been wanting to help but don't know if it would be an emotionally healthy thing for me to do. I did drive up there Wednesday afternoon and found the crash site, watched hawks and buzzards, tried to sense where he would go, but felt very odd and not very safe physically or emotionally by myself there. The lake is also so big and all the places and trails he could be quite overwhelmed me. Has the mile radius from the crash site been searched thoroughly? I also am interested about the other side of the dam across from the crash site. I did see a few vultures fly that way, but had no idea how I could get across there safely. It was also frustrating that the lake wanted to charge me when I said I was helping so I had to park up off Lake Hughes and spend most of my time walking just to get to where I wanted to start searching. I also drove by the crash site yesterday but did not see any search teams out.

I don't know if any of my rambling helps at all, but I just wanted to put out there that I think a very thorough search from the crash site should be performed. And that as they are searching they should be looking with the eyes of someone who may be suicidal or have had a psychotic break. Anywhere he could have hidden, maybe OD'd, anywhere he could have gotten stuck or hurt from, ie jumping from the dam to the lower lagoon. I know this is morbid, but it just seems like it should be ruled out. These were all things that LE seemed to dismiss and rule out in both my husbands and nieces case, but were unfortunately untrue and the search they performed just wasn't thorough enough.

:fireworks::welcome::fireworks:


Oh, and: :grouphug:

So sorry to hear about what happened to your loved ones. My heart breaks for you and what a brave strong person you are to have survived this terrible tragedy. I will pray for you.

My oldest handsome, smart son who is now 30 was diagnosed with schizophrenia/ bi-polar at age 20. He was a straight A student all through HS with high honors and lots of friends. He went off to college in Sacramento and never came back the same. It all started going downhill when he started self medicating with the Adderrall that he was introduced to by his Fraternity and would take off alone on trips and would go missing for weeks and just stopped going to college. He has been in and out of jail and psych hospitals ever since. He was an avid baseball, pop warner football player, snowboarder, skateboarder, and on the college wake-boarding team. He was amazing. This has been a living hell for our family for 10 years and continuing as this is a life-time illness there is no cure. He has refused taking his monthly antipsychotic injection and lithium meds so his mental health is declining rapidly. It's like my son has a brain tumor because he is not that same wonderful fun loving guy I raised through HS. It breaks my heart that so many young people are lost to mental illness. Nobody in my large network family has ever had any signs of mental illness. My son is the first case. We denied it was this in the beginning but the behavior continued with increasing episodes so eventually with enough Drs diagnosing him we came to terms with it.

Thank you so much for posting this. You are not alone and are a blessing to pass on the word!!!


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:grouphug:

OK, I am desperately behind here. Did they identify the burned body?

Not Bryce.

 

[Whiteorchids]

I've watched this video over and over his GF just doesn't look that worried to me. It looks rehearsed and it bothers me how she keeps looking away from the camera like somebody who's lying and can't look you in the eye.

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Bryce-Laspisa-Missing-Person-Castaic-Lake-222226581.html

 

[gitana1]

I've watched this video over and over his GF just doesn't look that worried to me. It looks rehearsed and it bothers me how she keeps looking away from the camera like somebody who's lying and can't look you in the eye.

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Bryce-Laspisa-Missing-Person-Castaic-Lake-222226581.html

I've never seen that. True, she doesn;t seem that worried and some of it near the end did seem a bit rehearsed. But she appears to be looking at an interviewer off camera, not acting shifty, IMO.

She's only 20 and this is a huge thing for her to have to handle. I don;t get a bad vibe from her. Of course I could be wrong but she just seems young to me and trying to do what she can.

Bryce's family has indicated she has been very upset off camera and they do not suspect her of anything.

 

[deicide]

I've watched this video over and over his GF just doesn't look that worried to me. It looks rehearsed and it bothers me how she keeps looking away from the camera like somebody who's lying and can't look you in the eye.

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Bryce-Laspisa-Missing-Person-Castaic-Lake-222226581.html

Maybe true, maybe don't. . While spending a lot of time with watching documentations, I heard of a new study that especially liers look someone straight in the eye because of the (they're not able to look you in the eye) more proven is the hand movement. http://www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/episode.cfm?id=eye-movements-do-not-reveal-lying-12-07-12
Just a explanation with the eyes.

 

[Whiteorchids]

I've never seen that. True, she doesn;t seem that worried and some of it near the end did seem a bit rehearsed. But she appears to be looking at an interviewer off camera, not acting shifty, IMO.

She's only 20 and this is a huge thing for her to have to handle. I don;t get a bad vibe from her. Of course I could be wrong but she just seems young to me and trying to do what she can.

Bryce's family has indicated she has been very upset off camera and they do not suspect her of anything.

Just so strange the discrepancy of the break-up. Bryce told his mom he broke-up with her but his mom doesn't think so. Maybe he tried to break it off and she was not accepting it and giving him a hard time about it and quite possibly that's why he wanted to see a friend to blow off steam as he told his mom. I just cant imagine him telling his mom he broke-up with her and didn't. Who knows this case is quite bizarre and full of mystery.


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[BluePoppy]

I've watched this video over and over his GF just doesn't look that worried to me. It looks rehearsed and it bothers me how she keeps looking away from the camera like somebody who's lying and can't look you in the eye.

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Bryce-Laspisa-Missing-Person-Castaic-Lake-222226581.html

Pretty sure this was mentioned before & dragracerz said that she is very devastated & has been very helpful & supportive. Some people are just like that when the spotlight is on them. I am one.

 

[Voice4theSilent]

I've watched this video over and over his GF just doesn't look that worried to me. It looks rehearsed and it bothers me how she keeps looking away from the camera like somebody who's lying and can't look you in the eye.

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Bryce-Laspisa-Missing-Person-Castaic-Lake-222226581.html

FWIW I do not think that Bryce's girlfriend is anything more than a very sad and confused girlfriend desperate to find her boyfriend. I think, for such a young girl not used to being put in front of the camera, she was probably nervous and out of her element (and probably still in a bit of shock at what was going on.) That early on she may have also thought that he just took a few days to find himself and that he would be walking back through her door any minute. I do not suspect that she has anything to do with Bryce's disappearance (not that I think you were implying that at all with your post, just wanted to put that out there.) With that said, I agree with you and do feel that we (the public) aren't getting the complete story about what happened when Bryce was up there, what he said to her, and also about the drugs he was using. I completely understand this, as the highest priority is to the endangered and their loved ones but I hope that the investigators have all of the proper information as I know her heart must be aching to have her boyfriend back. From photos I have seen online it really looks like they are in love.

 

[Whiteorchids]

FWIW I do not think that Bryce's girlfriend is anything more than a very sad and confused girlfriend desperate to find her boyfriend. I think, for such a young girl not used to being put in front of the camera, she was probably nervous and out of her element (and probably still in a bit of shock at what was going on.) That early on she may have also thought that he just took a few days to find himself and that he would be walking back through her door any minute. I do not suspect that she has anything to do with Bryce's disappearance (not that I think you were implying that at all with your post, just wanted to put that out there.) With that said, I agree with you and do feel that we (the public) aren't getting the complete story about what happened when Bryce was up there, what he said to her, and also about the drugs he was using. I completely understand this, as the highest priority is to the endangered and their loved ones but I hope that the investigators have all of the proper information as I know her heart must be aching to have her boyfriend back. From photos I have seen online it really looks like they are in love.

I agree. I think his head just wasn't in the right place those last 3 or 4 days and he was a lost soul.


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[nikb]

Just so strange the discrepancy of the break-up. Bryce told his mom he broke-up with her but his mom doesn't think so. Maybe he tried to break it off and she was not accepting it and giving him a hard time about it and quite possibly that's why he wanted to see a friend to blow off steam as he told his mom. I just cant imagine him telling his mom he broke-up with her and didn't. Who knows this case is quite bizarre and full of mystery.

I agree. I also think it could've easily been an attempt at a break up and she talked him out of it. Maybe he never even did it, or maybe she talked him into giving it another try, going to counseling, something like that.

ETA: or, maybe he was in a bad frame of mind and did that whole "I love you so much I want better for you - you deserve someone better than me" thing. I know we haven't seen/heard any indication that he was in a bad frame of mind for a lengthy period of time, but even a few days could've been enough.

 

[PoirotsGirlFriday]

I have been wondering all this time about FOOD. If Bryce's only money was this debit card his parents provided and it shows no food transactions, how was he eating? From Wednesday night to early Friday morning seems a long time for a 19 year old boy to go without eating! It made me think that he either had private cash that no one is aware of OR he had someone with him/met someone who was paying for his meals.

But then, there is always a chance he really didn't eat. Lack of appetite due to stress maybe? On a hunch, I googled the effects of Adderall on an empty stomach vs. a full stomach. I could not find a medical site that specifically stated Adderall should be taken with food or without food.

But...I did find some interesting bits of info. The general consensus between Adderall users is that Adderall on an empty stomach = WAY more effectiveness and faster absorption. Others have said although way more effective, it makes them feel a little crazy, sick, etc. And almost all agreed - while on Adderall, they have little to no appetite whatsoever.

One medical/prescription drug site confirmed that a side effect of Adderall is appetite loss. It also mentioned that one should not drive until they know how Adderall will affect them.

I could be wrong but I am wondering if the Adderall is why Bryce didn't stop to eat (that we know of). Which could indicate that the Adderall was even more effective. The more I find out, the worse it sounds.