CA CA - Bryce Laspisa, 19, Castaic, 30 Aug 2013 - #6

[Riverking21]

My questions posed above were based on what Riverking had posted, BBM:

"... I believe that Bryce was planning on moving out. My reason for believing that is SD had already made arraignments to move out on Oct 9th. I believe that this was the big news that he wanted to talk to his mother about. ..."
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I probably should have first asked Riverking for clarification on his statement instead of jumping forward and asking DRZ.

So ... @ Riverking, was your statement based on fact, something you heard from an insider, or your speculation? (And, with a very specific date, I might add!) Please explain, provide links. TIA

I said I believe. That would be an opinion based on how quick he was set to move out. Who makes plan to move out that fast? Like he knew BL wouldn't comeback.

 

[AmandaFast]

Just sent Brian some good resources for TV and Internet exposure. Not sure if they will work, but I looked into the ones I could think of (Investigation Discovery-Disappeared, CNN, HLN-Nancy Grace, Good morning America, Dr. Phils- Local news stories, Investigation Discoveries FB which has some missing people already on it as well as a pinterest, Americas most wanted- missing persons department), hopefully one of these will give him some much needed coverage!!lease:lease:lease:lease:

 

[Riverking21]

Lakeside Boat and Marina

Lake CastaicMarina @violins canyon rd.

Castaic Lake self storage next to Days Inn Six Flags Magic Mountain

Lots of boats...covered some small some large with cabins I would imagine.....

Should note all the Boat Service companies you list are not storage lots. Most of these boats are turned out within 2-3 weeks. They are just repair shops. However there are a couple of storage places down ridge route road and Castaic Main Street

 

[Deep12]

Should note all the Boat Service companies you list are not storage lots. Most of these boats are turned out within 2-3 weeks. They are just repair shops. However there are a couple of storage places down ridge route road and Castaic Main Street

Thanks River king......I can only go by what I'm seeing on Google maps....and as someone says ,don't know when the photo views were taken.....over 300 boats at last count.....it's worth a shot though ........

Maybe worth a try and get the owners of the marinas, dry docks,repair shops and storage to check there covered boats ....

 

[Voice4theSilent]

I don't think phone records ever get released to the public in any case. But I could be wrong.

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Nothing really gets released to the public in a missing person case really, unless the parents and/or family release it. LE has released very little information regarding Bryce (possibly because it isn't information that they think will help locate him.)

 

[AnjL]

BBM
Well, there is one we haven't covered.... :ufo:

And foul play....even after he hiked across the dam. We don't know if some creep picked him up

 

[Voice4theSilent]

Who is Lauren S., Clu?

RSBM

Lauren Spierer, I believe. From what I remember, she went missing after a night at a bar with her "friends" and the family has been pleading for her friends to tell them what happened. I think only one of them went to the police willingly to tell them what they knew. (Many lawyered up and/or left town after her disappearance.)

 

[Voice4theSilent]

I said I believe. That would be an opinion based on how quick he was set to move out. Who makes plan to move out that fast? Like he knew BL wouldn't comeback.

Didn't he also post something about writing a book?

 

[RoseGarden]

I know some posters have expressed the idea that Bryce went up by that tower to rest, but I just cannot personally fathom that being the case, JMO.

My reasoning is only my recent personal experience of being in a park like this at night. This was before reading about this case.

I was in a park at night that would seem comparable to this one for the most part, by myself, and decided to pull off into one of the shelter drives and tried to chill listening to the radio.

Call me a scaredycat, but my spidey sense was on high alert because of the darkness and inability to see around and I quickly left -- no chilling to be had there.

One poster here even mentioned that at night her husband thought he was in a horror movie.

There was a reason other than that he was up there, even if that reason was confusion or distraction.

Yet, brave Bryce (most likely in shock from the SUV tumble) marched along for 3 miles, according to the dogs' report (not exactly a typed report, but... )

Similarly, I marched along for more than a mile after my car rolled, oblivious to pain and the fact it was 3:00 AM (Mother's Day, 1984, no less!), in the dark. Bryce - if in shock as would be expected - might have instincts that kicked in the same, allowing him to take that 3 miles trek at 5:00 AM - ish. It's hard to say where he might go if he had a head injury... IMO... Maybe to scout out all of the commotion at his vehicle, maybe to hide, I really don't know... :banghead: But I do hope the searchers take all of this into account and are able to search wherever our many scenarios have suggested. Even under the boats - mentioned? Where are those? TIA, Baddux!

 

[caron]

He didn't call his mom about the keys. As far as I know she did and then spoke with the roommate to verify his condition. She stated he was fine. Keys were returned.

I'm a lurker coming out of hiding ...

I've been reading for several days, although I didn't read the early threads so forgive me if this has been stated already.

There's been some discussion about his keys being taken away, by whom and that his mother told them to give them back. There's been a LOT of discussion about his mental status at that point.

I find it very odd that a girlfriend and/or roommate would take away someones keys unless they were threatening to harm themselves or someone else or if they were under the influence. I think the fact that he called his mother (I assume that's how she found out about them having his keys???) and she told them to give them back, tells a lot about his mental status. As a mother, albeit to an 18 month old son, I can see how your instincts to protect your child would kick in. If she knew something wasn't right and the fact that they took his keys was causing more stress to him (therefor possibly making him more "unstable" for lack of a better description), it's possible that she told them to give the keys back to reduce his "panic" (again for lack of a better word). She may have felt he would go back to his apartment and settle down and they could have a conversation. She offered to fly up there ... to me that's a mom that's worried about her child.

What's disturbing to me is the timeline ... if he had called and was freaking out about his keys being taken away, why was there no conversation between mom and son in the time he was driving (and yes, I know she was attempting to contact him, but from what I've gathered that wasn't until Thursday when she received the survey from AAA and realized he wasn't at school). If you were worried enough that you were offering to fly up there, why weren't they in contact on Wednesday? Or were they and I've just missed all that.

As to what happened to him ... I go back and forth on a lot of theories and a lot of that depends on the days leading up to it.

I fully respect the families privacy and a lot of this is none of our business. The fact is he's still out there, somewhere. However, knowing his "state of mind" might help determine where he's at.

I hope they find him soon. That family needs to know where their son is.

 

[slowpoke]

Just sent Brian some good resources for TV and Internet exposure. Not sure if they will work, but I looked into the ones I could think of (Investigation Discovery-Disappeared, CNN, HLN-Nancy Grace, Good morning America, Dr. Phils- Local news stories, Investigation Discoveries FB which has some missing people already on it as well as a pinterest, Americas most wanted- missing persons department), hopefully one of these will give him some much needed coverage!!lease:lease:lease:lease:

Great thought. Since gitana1 brought up the Michelle Le case and how well they did keeping her in the spotlight until she was found 4 months later, I googled around a bit and saw that they did a variety of fundraisers like a public rally, nightclub, bowling, restaurants like Sizzler, Chevys...they were to raise awareness, meet with the public, network, as well as fundraise. Bryce, like Michelle Le, being young, means very social network-connected friends. His friends in NorCal and Ill can be doing some of these awareness-raising activities.

 

[nikb]

He didn't call his mom about the keys. As far as I know she did and then spoke with the roommate to verify his condition. She stated he was fine. Keys were returned.

Thanks Caron. In that scenario, if you know and can share, how did his Mom know the keys had been taken away in order to request that they be returned? Or does the "she" above in "she did" refer to the girlfriend - girlfriend called the Mom and then the Mom spoke with her and her roommate? I'm confused about where and how that all went down, and I think it matters a lot who he spoke to and how he was acting when this happened.

I hope LE's gotten some good information from everyone in that whole situation. Someone obviously felt the need to take away the keys, and someone else obviously felt he was fine... not to blame anyone, I bet they're all wishing they'd done things differently in hindsight.

 

[Riverking21]

Didn't he also post something about writing a book?

I'm not sure haven't heard that one? I've been trying to catch up. Sorry been MIA I've been dealing with some personal issues really The reason that attracted me to this case in the first place, so I've been consumed with that the last week. Haven't heard the book thing. But I will say I think there is something there with the Church connection.

 

[Portabella]

Just checking in and so sad to not see the words, "found alive" .... I hope to be able to be on more now as life has been challenging. I must read tons and catch up... I cannot help but still think Bryce is alive and hopefully well...praying for him.

 

[Quester]

I'm not sure haven't heard that one? I've been trying to catch up. Sorry been MIA I've been dealing with some personal issues really The reason that attracted me to this case in the first place, so I've been consumed with that the last week. Haven't heard the book thing. But I will say I think there is something there with the Church connection.

anic: What Church connection? Are you referring to the missing family / Church connection? TIA

 

[nikb]

Didn't he also post something about writing a book?

I don't remember hearing anything about that even as a rumor. Do you happen to know where it came from? Thanks.

 

[gitana1]

I said I believe. That would be an opinion based on how quick he was set to move out. Who makes plan to move out that fast? Like he knew BL wouldn't comeback.

I thought the question was how you knew what date the roommate was planning to move out? I may be lost.

RSBM

Lauren Spierer, I believe. From what I remember, she went missing after a night at a bar with her "friends" and the family has been pleading for her friends to tell them what happened. I think only one of them went to the police willingly to tell them what they knew. (Many lawyered up and/or left town after her disappearance.)

Wow. How horrible. I will have to read up on the case.

Thanks Caron. In that scenario, if you know and can share, how did his Mom know the keys had been taken away in order to request that they be returned? Or does the "she" above in "she did" refer to the girlfriend - girlfriend called the Mom and then the Mom spoke with her and her roommate? I'm confused about where and how that all went down, and I think it matters a lot who he spoke to and how he was acting when this happened.

I hope LE's gotten some good information from everyone in that whole situation. Someone obviously felt the need to take away the keys, and someone else obviously felt he was fine... not to blame anyone, I bet they're all wishing they'd done things differently in hindsight.

I'll say. It's all very sad in retrospect.

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I believe you mean the other Le--Michelle Le, whose body was found something like 4 months after her disappearance. I, too, was very impressed by her brother and cousin's ability to keep the media and public involved.

Yeah! I always get the two confused. Sorry about that!

Just checking in and so sad to not see the words, "found alive" .... I hope to be able to be on more now as life has been challenging. I must read tons and catch up... I cannot help but still think Bryce is alive and hopefully well...praying for him.

Nice to see you here, Portabella.

 

[Ghostwheel]

I know some posters have expressed the idea that Bryce went up by that tower to rest, but I just cannot personally fathom that being the case, JMO.

My reasoning is only my recent personal experience of being in a park like this at night. This was before reading about this case.

I was in a park at night that would seem comparable to this one for the most part, by myself, and decided to pull off into one of the shelter drives and tried to chill listening to the radio.

Call me a scaredycat, but my spidey sense was on high alert because of the darkness and inability to see around and I quickly left -- no chilling to be had there.

One poster here even mentioned that at night her husband thought he was in a horror movie.

There was a reason other than that he was up there, even if that reason was confusion or distraction.

But you see, I do this all the time. Yes, if I feel weird in some place I will not stay, but I have stayed in odd locations when I needed rest/sleep/reflection many times. It just depends on the personality of the person. Not to say he might not have had another reason, but sleep/rest/reflection is a fine reason for some people.

 

[Riverking21]

anic: What Church connection? Are you referring to the missing family / Church connection? TIA

No just SD being a big church guy and the saving my soul stuff. Just feel like there is something there. It prompted Bryce to go to church down here a couple of times. I didn't get to read any of those posts.

 

[Riverking21]

I thought the question was how you knew what date the roommate was planning to move out? I may be lost.



Wow. How horrible. I will have to read up on the case.



I'll say. It's all very sad in retrospect.



Yeah! I always get the two confused. Sorry about that!



Nice to see you here, Portabella.

He posted it on his twitter account. Oct. 9th