CA - California couple accused of tricking women into carrying babies through surrogacy; 21 children seized, warrants 9 May 2025

[flowershop]

I am interested in what conclusions everyone has drawn from this. I don't think Guojan wanted to sell the children. An argument is made in the article by someone that says that G&S paid for all medical expenses plus the surrogate payments. About 150K per child.

It seems to me he just wanted a lot of kids and had the financial means to acquire them. He was biological father to over 20 kids in that house.

JMO

 

[Orbweaver]

I am interested in what conclusions everyone has drawn from this. I don't think Guojan wanted to sell the children. An argument is made in the article by someone that says that G&S paid for all medical expenses plus the surrogate payments. About 150K per child.

It seems to me he just wanted a lot of kids and had the financial means to acquire them. He was biological father to over 20 kids in that house.

JMO

I’m trying to figure that out too and am super interested in what you all think. My immediate thought is like a modern version of Georgian Tan style human trafficking but the expenses don’t make sense. I hope there is some form of journal that might give insight into their motivations.

 

[sunspun]

I am interested in what conclusions everyone has drawn from this. I don't think Guojan wanted to sell the children. An argument is made in the article by someone that says that G&S paid for all medical expenses plus the surrogate payments. About 150K per child.

It seems to me he just wanted a lot of kids and had the financial means to acquire them. He was biological father to over 20 kids in that house.

JMO

It doesn't sound from the article that Guojan was highly intelligent (despite having managed to accumulate apparently a good size personal net worth), and he seems to have had, if not violent, at least an irascible personality/temper when he was under the influence of alcohol, and since he was, imo, an alcoholic, this would have been frequently.

I think I agree with you that his reasons for paying for surrogacy so many times was the simple wish to "propagate his seed." As others have mentioned, consider multi-billionaire Elon Musk's propensity for the same.

I thought it was interesting that he preferred non-Asian mothers for his children, once he was able to choose since he was paying, if I understood that article correctly.