Still Missing CA - Classic (Orson West, 3) & Cincere (Orrin West, 4) Calif. City, *parents charged* 21 Dec 2020 #7

[Laughing]

A plea bargain would keep us from knowing the facts -- but I could sure take that for the protection of the 4 children!

 

[MsBetsy]

But WHERE ARE THE BOYS?

I think the bodies ended up in a landfill somewhere. Murderers seem to know that discarding their victims in the garbage is the surest way for them never to be found.

I doubt we'll ever find the answers from Jacqueline and Trezell.

I do wonder what evidence the siblings were able to bring to the case. I've always thought many answers would lie with them.

 

[UrsulaWrenn]

I doubt we'll ever find the answers from Jacqueline and Trezell.

I think one of the very best uses of the death penalty is to seek it in these cases, then take it off the table in exchange for cooperating with LEO and disclosing the location of remains.

 

[Frodosdojo]

I think one of the very best uses of the death penalty is to seek it in these cases, then take it off the table in exchange for cooperating with LEO and disclosing the location of remains.

I agree except California has paused the death penalty. Some types of murderers wouldn't care anyways. Look at Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell.

 

[Frodosdojo]

Being adopted is supposed to be the best thing to happen to kids growing up in less-than-ideal situations; so to me that makes it all the more heart breaking when they are abused or neglected or killed by adoptive parents.

I understand why California took the boys away from their biological parents, but being adopted was just from-frying-pan-to-fire for them.

We have to do better.

In my personal experience as an adoptee in California, I think it's a broken system. They can never really know the people who adopt just like they can never really know foster parents. My sisters were adopted separately from me so I know they did not fare any better. I can say it was better in some ways than foster care but it was never "the best thing to happen".

@fidgeypie - Here is the news source you were asking about with the coverage of the missing evidence:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1633354310766702592

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

I wonder if it's DNA from the blood found at the house. Justice for Classic,and Cincere. MOO

 

[Laughing]

In my personal experience as an adoptee in California, I think it's a broken system. They can never really know the people who adopt just like they can never really know foster parents. My sisters were adopted separately from me so I know they did not fare any better. I can say it was better in some ways than foster care but it was never "the best thing to happen".

@fidgeypie - Here is the news source you were asking about with the coverage of the missing evidence:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1633354310766702592

I'm so sorry to hear this, and hope you & your sisters are doing OK now!

 

[Knox]

I think one of the very best uses of the death penalty is to seek it in these cases, then take it off the table in exchange for cooperating with LEO and disclosing the location of remains.

This means that while the death penalty is still technically on the books, no one is currently being put to death by the State of California. In January 2022, Governor Newsom took the further step of ordering the dismantling of California's "death row" (in San Quentin Prison).Sep 17, 2022

If nothing changes, all death row inmates will be transferred to other facilities within two years. The current death row will be renovated into "something innovative and anchored in rehabilitation."

https://www.egattorneys.com/death-penalty-in-california#:~:text=This%20means%20that%20while%20the,(in%20San%20Quentin%20Prison).

 

[fidgeypie]

This means that while the death penalty is still technically on the books, no one is currently being put to death by the State of California. In January 2022, Governor Newsom took the further step of ordering the dismantling of California's "death row" (in San Quentin Prison).Sep 17, 2022

If nothing changes, all death row inmates will be transferred to other facilities within two years. The current death row will be renovated into "something innovative and anchored in rehabilitation."

https://www.egattorneys.com/death-penalty-in-california#:~:text=This%20means%20that%20while%20the,(in%20San%20Quentin%20Prison).

I dont know if im speaking out of turn here, I'm not really sure personally where I stand on the death penalty but i have heard of it being used to bargain for location of remains, I do know I'm in favour of that. Jmoo

 

[fidgeypie]

In my personal experience as an adoptee in California, I think it's a broken system. They can never really know the people who adopt just like they can never really know foster parents. My sisters were adopted separately from me so I know they did not fare any better. I can say it was better in some ways than foster care but it was never "the best thing to happen".

@fidgeypie - Here is the news source you were asking about with the coverage of the missing evidence:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1633354310766702592

Thank you

 

[Frodosdojo]

I'm so sorry to hear this, and hope you & your sisters are doing OK now!

That's very kind of you. We're all old ladies now and have had our fair share of troubles, as does every one. I am always grateful to be alive and enjoying my life.

 

[PommyMommy]

MAR 17, 2023

Jury selection begins next week for West boys murder trial

Jury selection is set to begin next week starting Monday, March 20 for Trezell and Jacqueline West murder trial.RELATED: Trezell and Jacqueline West trial: Moti

bakersfieldnow.com

Jury selection is set to begin next week starting Monday, March 20 for Trezell and Jacqueline West murder trial.

[...]

The Wests are charged with second-degree murder, involuntary manslaughter, and child cruelty, among other charges.

Opening statements are set for March 28th, closing arguments for June 1st, and deliberations for June 2nd.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Jury selection expected to begin for West Boys trial

Jury selection is set to begin for Jacqueline and Trezell West, the adoptive parents of Orrin and Orson West who are accused of killing the California City boys, on Mon, March 20.

www.turnto23.com

 

[TheLoadedGoat]

Does anyone know if there will be cameras in the court room?

 

[Seattle1]

Does anyone know if there will be cameras in the court room?

Never for jury selection. Stay tuned for trial news.

 

[Frodosdojo]

The Trombetta motion was denied.

 

[Seattle1]

Around a dozen friends and family members of the biological parents of Orrin and Orson West were at the hearing. They told Eyewitness News they're planning on being there throughout the trial.

Superior Court Judge Charles Brehmer said a tentative schedule is set for the trial. There will be jury selection March 20th - March 24th, opening statements March 28th, closing arguments June 1st, and deliberations June 2nd.

Trezell and Jacqueline West trial: Motions hearing

Tuesday, Trezell and Jacqueline West, the parents charged with murdering their four and three-year-old adoptive sons, were in court Tuesday for a motions

bakersfieldnow.com

 

[Seattle1]

The Trombetta motion was denied.

Thanks for the update @Frodosdojo.

Wednesday morning, the judge and the attorneys will go over a Trombetta Motion. A Trombetta Motion is when an attorney files a request the judge dismiss the case, because evidence has been destroyed or lost.

That will not be open to the public, but the ruling on it will be.

Trezell and Jacqueline West trial: Motions hearing

Tuesday, Trezell and Jacqueline West, the parents charged with murdering their four and three-year-old adoptive sons, were in court Tuesday for a motions

bakersfieldnow.com

 

[Seattle1]

3/2/22 Closing argument with Vinnie P at the link below (15 mins video).

Adoptive parents of missing Cal City boys charged with murder

The adoptive parents of two missing toddlers have been charged with their murders, according to authorities.

www.courttv.com

 

[Knox]

Around a dozen friends and family members of the biological parents of Orrin and Orson West were at the hearing. They told Eyewitness News they're planning on being there throughout the trial.

Superior Court Judge Charles Brehmer said a tentative schedule is set for the trial. There will be jury selection March 20th - March 24th, opening statements March 28th, closing arguments June 1st, and deliberations June 2nd.

Trezell and Jacqueline West trial: Motions hearing

Tuesday, Trezell and Jacqueline West, the parents charged with murdering their four and three-year-old adoptive sons, were in court Tuesday for a motions

bakersfieldnow.com

The trial will last two months?