GUILTY CA - Classic (Orson West, 3) & Cincere (Orrin West, 4), still missing, Calif. City, *Mistrial on counts 4 & 5)* 21 Dec 2020 #8

[cuffem]

What is the number of years they can potentially receive?

Pommy posted an earlier article that stated 15 years to life for the second degree manslaughter count, with other counts it will be more, imo

West Trial: Adoptive parents found guilty of 5 of 7 charges, including murder

BAKERSFIELD, Calif. (KGET) — Trezell and Jacqueline West, the adoptive parents of two young boys who were reported missing in 2020, have been found guilty of second-degree murder and other of…

www.kget.com

 

[Ruby_PA]

I often think about what these 2 sweet boys may have grown into and what they may have contributed to society that we will never see. So sad. I'm glad justice has prevailed.

 

[cuffem]

How does that work, 2nd degree murder AND involuntary manslaughter. Seems like it would be one or the other? Or is involuntary manslaughter automatically 2 nd deg. murder in Cal? Was that explained? Geez I hate people who haven't followed a case then helicopter in!

It was explained back in jury instructions a week ago . Check KGET tweets or my not so good notes.

 

[cvaldez1975]

coming in here to say thank God!

On july 13 the DA will announce if they will retry the deadlocked charges. how does that work, it is a whole retrial or just those counts?

 

[wary]

By the way, somewhere in the maze of tweets posted here,

coming in here to say thank God!

On july 13 the DA will announce if they will retry the deadlocked charges. how does that work, it is a whole retrial or just those counts?

Just the deadlocked counts, but a whole new trial for those.

MOO, of course

 

[rosesfromangels]

Well, 3 hots and a cot for T and J at our expense. Probably tv and classes too.
Time for Justice reform.

Amateur opinion and speculation

 

[cuffem]

coming in here to say thank God!

On july 13 the DA will announce if they will retry the deadlocked charges. how does that work, it is a whole retrial or just those counts?

Just those 2 counts.
Sorry I did not see this was already answered.

 

[PommyMommy]

MAY 19, 2023

Trezell and Jacqueline West found guilty in five of seven counts

A Kern County jury has foundTrezell and Jacqueline West guilty of 5 of the 7 counts they were charged Friday morning in regards to Orrin and Orson West.The jur

bakersfieldnow.com

A Kern County jury has found Trezell and Jacqueline West guilty of 5 of the 7 counts they were charged with Friday morning in regards to Orrin and Orson West.

The jury did not find a verdict for two counts, second-degree murder and conspire to commit a crime. Those counts are in regard to 3-year-old Orson West.

[...]

The Wests were each facing a total of seven charges including:

• 2 counts of Murder: Second Degree
• Involuntary manslaughter
• 2 counts of willful cruelty to child
• Conspire to commit a crime
• False report of emergency

Jurors found Trezell guilty of:

• Second-Degree Murder
• Involuntary Manslaughter
• 2 counts of Willful Cruelty to Child
• False report of emergency

Jurors did not find a verdict of Trezell in:

• Second-Degree Murder
• Conspire to commit a crime

Jurors found Jacqueline guilty of:

• Second-Degree Murder
• Involuntary Manslaughter
• 2 counts of Willful Cruelty to Child
• False report of emergency

Jurors did not find a verdict of Jacqueline in:

• Second-Degree Murder
• Conspire to commit a crime

[...]

 

[Seattle1]

Sweet Justice!

 

[Frodosdojo]

MAY 19, 2023

Trezell and Jacqueline West found guilty in five of seven counts

A Kern County jury has foundTrezell and Jacqueline West guilty of 5 of the 7 counts they were charged Friday morning in regards to Orrin and Orson West.The jur

bakersfieldnow.com

A Kern County jury has found Trezell and Jacqueline West guilty of 5 of the 7 counts they were charged with Friday morning in regards to Orrin and Orson West.

The jury did not find a verdict for two counts, second-degree murder and conspire to commit a crime. Those counts are in regard to 3-year-old Orson West.

[...]

The Wests were each facing a total of seven charges including:

• 2 counts of Murder: Second Degree
• Involuntary manslaughter
• 2 counts of willful cruelty to child
• Conspire to commit a crime
• False report of emergency

Jurors found Trezell guilty of:

• Second-Degree Murder
• Involuntary Manslaughter
• 2 counts of Willful Cruelty to Child
• False report of emergency

Jurors did not find a verdict of Trezell in:

• Second-Degree Murder
• Conspire to commit a crime

Jurors found Jacqueline guilty of:

• Second-Degree Murder
• Involuntary Manslaughter
• 2 counts of Willful Cruelty to Child
• False report of emergency

Jurors did not find a verdict of Jacqueline in:

• Second-Degree Murder
• Conspire to commit a crime

[...]

Thank you and @cuffem for all your hard work keeping this thread updated. I am so glad there was justice today and hope for very long sentences for the Wests. I also hope the other boys find loving homes and aren't forced to deal with the adoptive grandparents. IMO, the cycle of abuse began in both of those homes and perhaps is generational.

 

[cuffem]

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Sweet Justice!

What a great pic! thank you! Got a little choked up seeing it.

 

[cuffem]

Thank you and @cuffem for all your hard work keeping this thread updated. I am so glad there was justice today and hope for very long sentences for the Wests. I also hope the other boys find loving homes and aren't forced to deal with the adoptive grandparents. IMO, the cycle of abuse began in both of those homes and perhaps is generational.

Pommy Mommy helped with the tweets and the Media thread everyday. She even started the thread from the beginning.

 

[cuffem]

Thank you and @cuffem for all your hard work keeping this thread updated. I am so glad there was justice today and hope for very long sentences for the Wests. I also hope the other boys find loving homes and aren't forced to deal with the adoptive grandparents. IMO, the cycle of abuse began in both of those homes and perhaps is generational.

Two of the boys are bio children of the Wests so I believe they will still have some visiting rights. I doubt they will ever see the 2 adoptive children. All IMO.
I wonder if TW's brother or parents will try to gain custody of the 2 bio boys?

 

[Chelly]

What is the number of years they can potentially receive?

Per googling:
On second-degree manslaughter - 15years to life for each parent.

Willful cruelty of a child - 2-6 years X 2 for each parent

Then add on Filing a false report to law enforcement- 6 months to each parent
MOO
This is all up to the Judge

 

[wary]

Per googling:
On second-degree manslaughter - 15years to life for each parent.

Willful cruelty of a child - 2-6 years X 2 for each parent

Then add on Filing a false report to law enforcement- 6 months to each parent
MOO
This is all up to the Judge

Unfortunately, I’d expect all the sentences to run concurrently, with plenty of time off for good behavior. I hope I’m wrong.

 

[cuffem]

Unfortunately, I’d expect all the sentences to run concurrently, with plenty of time off for good behavior. I hope I’m wrong.

That is what I was thinking. I hate when they do sentencing that way.

 

[UrsulaWrenn]

I'm a bit baffled by the way the verdicts were split, but am so happy to see justice for one of the boys. Hopefully there will be another trial for the other.

Thanks again to everyone who posted the updates here.

Let's all take a moment of silence for the boys, raise a glass of whatever we drink to a partial victory, and ask the Powers That Be to protect more children from the kinds of fates so many are suffering at the hands of abusive adults.

 

[wary]

I'm a bit baffled by the way the verdicts were split, but am so happy to see justice for one of the boys. Hopefully there will be another trial for the other.

Thanks again to everyone who posted the updates here.

Let's all take a moment of silence for the boys, raise a glass of whatever we drink to a partial victory, and ask the Powers That Be to protect more children from the kinds of fates so many are suffering at the hands of abusive adults.

If I understand things correctly, the jury members all believed the children who had seen one boy dying. However, a few of them couldn’t make the leap to believing the charges that related to the other boy, without the eyewitness account. So, the split verdict.

 

[Warwick7]

THANK YOU JURY!!! I'm just popping in from work but am grateful and relieved at what I've read so far. #Justice4theboys!

Me too!!! Thank you Jury!!

 

[k-mac]

Am very relieved!
so glad the jury got it right.
With what they had....I think we have to be grateful and thanks be to god that this pair of monsters have been convicted and will serve hopefully 20.

Anything less will be an injustice.