Found Deceased CA - Crystal McCarthy, 37, belongings found under a bridge, Napa, 13 Dec 2021

[Beans]

I didn’t expect a good outcome but I am glad they will have some sort of closure. Rest easy now, Crystal.

 

[azure]

Obviously doesn't need one. It's enough that he's homeless and recently released from prison.

Even though police said they don't believe any foul play was involved and the man was co-operating with them. I'm sure they have reason to believe this.

I guess we shall see upon autopsy results.

So just to be clear, simply being homeless is motive for murder?

 

[Allabouttrial]

So just to be clear, simply being homeless is motive for murder?

I absolutely don't think that and it appears LE don't either.

 

[PommyMommy]

Body Recovered in Napa River Appears to Be That of Missing Woman Chrystal McCarthy

Noting:

McCarthy’s father, mother, and boyfriend were notified in the abundance of caution that the body recovered is McCarthy. Police noted that unfortunately, spectators posted to social media ahead of official notifications.

Shame on them!

Rest peacefully now, Crystal.

 

[swanniee11]

Noting:

McCarthy’s father, mother, and boyfriend were notified in the abundance of caution that the body recovered is McCarthy. Police noted that unfortunately, spectators posted to social media ahead of official notifications.

Shame on them!

Rest peacefully now, Crystal.

That is horrible and so freaking disrespectful. SHAME ON THEM is right!

 

[PommyMommy]

This article is a few days old but I missed this bit about where and how her phone was found. Also, that she and her bf had dinner together before he went to work. So, who was the food order for?

DEC 22, 2021
Community searching for missing Napa woman | KRON4
[...]

“The boots have been confirmed to have been the boots that crystal was wearing, based on the video from 7-Eleven. That night of her last known location,” said Detective Brandt Keown.

[...]

He reported her missing to the police. He says they had dinner together and later spoke by phone from his job the night she went missing.

“I got home about midnight. When I got home she wasn’t there. I gave her phone a ring. It didn’t answer,” said AW.

He says he later found her phone on silent mode in between the couch cushions.

[...]

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

They found Crystal in the river today

Oh man

This article is a few days old but I missed this bit about where and how her phone was found. Also, that she and her bf had dinner together before he went to work. So, who was the food order for?

DEC 22, 2021
Community searching for missing Napa woman | KRON4
[...]

“The boots have been confirmed to have been the boots that crystal was wearing, based on the video from 7-Eleven. That night of her last known location,” said Detective Brandt Keown.

[...]

He reported her missing to the police. He says they had dinner together and later spoke by phone from his job the night she went missing.

“I got home about midnight. When I got home she wasn’t there. I gave her phone a ring. It didn’t answer,” said AW.

He says he later found her phone on silent mode in between the couch cushions.

[...]

So the boots that she was wearing were on the shore? Baffling. Would she really take her boots off in a rain storm? Or were they stuck in mud and maybe that's how she ended up in the river? She got stuck, lost her balance and fell in? Just a thought...

 

[Hexe]

This article is a few days old but I missed this bit about where and how her phone was found. Also, that she and her bf had dinner together before he went to work. So, who was the food order for?

DEC 22, 2021
Community searching for missing Napa woman | KRON4
[...]

“I got home about midnight. When I got home she wasn’t there. I gave her phone a ring. It didn’t answer,” said AW.

He says he later found her phone on silent mode in between the couch cushions.

[...]

Why would anyone leave the phone stuffed in the couch, while going out in the night? That's just doesn't add up

 

[Gardenista]

Why would anyone leave the phone stuffed in the couch, while going out in the night? That's just doesn't add up

Yes, that kind of made me shiver, because that's what Chris Watts said too.

 

[PommyMommy]

Yes, that kind of made me shiver, because that's what Chris Watts said too.

You beat me to it, Gardenista. I was just about to say, "The only other time I remember a phone being found in the couch ..."

 

[akazia1978]

Maybe it fell out of her pocket and she couldn't call it because she has it on silent mode generally? This just happened to me in Honduras, so I just left as I had stuff to do, and there was no time to run all around looking for it (was on silent as I often have it that way). I was under the assumption she was helping out a homeless friend with the food order. MOO

 

[swanniee11]

RE: phone in the couch, maybe she couldn't find it so she left, If it was on silent, she wouldn't even be able to get her roommate to call it to find it. IMO

 

[borndem]

Authorities ply waters of Napa River as search for Crystal McCarthy continues
The search took place from about 11 a.m. to 1 p.m., and involved a Napa County Sheriff’s Office boat patrol under Napa Police’s direction, according to police Sgt. Garrett Smith. No signs were found of the 37-year-old McCarthy, who police said was last heard from on the night of Dec. 13 during a major Bay Area rainstorm.

This is all I read about it. ( bringing from previous post). Shocking they spent only 2 hours searching in water that was in the middle of an area that had a bad rain storm. IMO
Editing. Sounds like only 1 boat too! UGH

Maybe there's evidence that points to something else that makes LE think that water was not involved in her disappearance. Something/someone they don't want to make public at this time. Who knoze? I do think a couple of hours are not enuff unless it's all the manpower and/or whatever else, was all they had at the time. SMH.

 

[borndem]

Well, its been confirmed that she was known to leave her phone behind. Also, the man she met admitted as much as meeting her for the first time that night, and even having some drinks under the bridge with her. Could be a convenient coincidence for the bf to have done something, or, more likely, is the man did something.
The food order I suspect was for after her bf got off work. Having dinner before he went to work, and midnight is pretty far apart.

bbm
Excellent thought about the food order, @NightCall. I didn't even think about that angle -- that makes a lot of sense. And perhaps the roommate didn't knock because she knew that the order delivery was for him.

 

[borndem]

LE seems awfully convinced she's in the water. I'm wondering if they've talked to the homeless man and he told them what happened.

If she was drinking, it is entirely possible she got drunk and fell in.

Yes, or she may have been just a bit tipsy, in those boots (probably slick-soled, no tread), it was probably muddy -- and she stood up, slipped and fell in with boots, probably a coat or jacket, etc., and there she went. Or not. Who knoze? Poor thing, where is she?

 

[borndem]

They found Crystal in the river today

Oh, my. Bless her heart.
And her poor family and friends. I'm sure the family members were wanting the phone or the doorbell to ring and also scared that it would. I cannot imagine being in that situation, but folks are -- somewhere, every day, every day. Oh, Crystal.

 

[Hexe]

Okay, so I have a lot of issues with that whole story around Crystal going missing. Let me go through them step by step.

First let's look into this text:

Search Continues for Missing Woman Who May Have Been Swept Into Napa River

"She called me about 10:15 asking me if I wanted anything else to eat," said Andrew Wright, McCarthy's boyfriend. "She said she was getting DoorDash. I got home about midnight. When I got home, she wasn’t there."

So, she placed an order for her and her bf, who was supposed to be back home soon, yet her phone was in silent mode, stuffed in the couch and she did not bother to find it? For me it is weird, because usually, while I wait for delivery, I keep my phone turned on and nearby.

Now look here:

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Fifteen or so minutes later Crystal is in the 7-Eleven, wearing her characteristic boots, but no umbrella in sight. The store she popped into is very close to her home, so I can imagine her darting here for a moment, to help the homeless pal, but how did he contacted Crystal, if her phone was silent and stuffed in the couch?

Then here we can find another tidbit:

Search effort for Crystal McCarthy carried out Wednesday along Napa River

At 10:30 p.m., the roommate received a food order placed by McCarthy, but assumed she was in her bedroom.

Why the roommate did not call Crystal? You know, not by phone but by yelling that the food arrived? Why didn't this person attempt to knock at the bedroom door if they thought she was inside? That's just... weird. Also, it seems Crystal left the flat minutes before the food arrived (the order was placed after 10:15, remember?), so how comes the roomie noticed the delivery arriving, but not Crystal going out?

Roomie says also:

A roommate of McCarthy and Wright was home that night and spoke with McCarthy just before 9 p.m., when she asked about an umbrella

and:

Wright, who was among the group searching for McCarthy on Wednesday, said he searched the area the next morning and found McCarthy’s umbrella and boots on the western bank of the Napa River, near their home.

In the snapshot from 7-11 footage Crystal does not carry the umbrella. Why to take the umbrella and not use it afterwards? Also, if she slipped and fell into the river, how did her belongings ended up on the bank? Especially the boots, how do you fell into a river, leaving your boots on the riverbank?

 

[Rosiebones]

Body Found In Napa River Likely That Of Missing Woman, Police Say
Parents and boyfriend have been notified but this is pending autopsy results.

 

[StarRemy8]

Okay, so I have a lot of issues with that whole story around Crystal going missing. Let me go through them step by step.

First let's look into this text:

Search Continues for Missing Woman Who May Have Been Swept Into Napa River

"She called me about 10:15 asking me if I wanted anything else to eat," said Andrew Wright, McCarthy's boyfriend. "She said she was getting DoorDash. I got home about midnight. When I got home, she wasn’t there."

So, she placed an order for her and her bf, who was supposed to be back home soon, yet her phone was in silent mode, stuffed in the couch and she did not bother to find it? For me it is weird, because usually, while I wait for delivery, I keep my phone turned on and nearby.

Now look here:

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Fifteen or so minutes later Crystal is in the 7-Eleven, wearing her characteristic boots, but no umbrella in sight. The store she popped into is very close to her home, so I can imagine her darting here for a moment, to help the homeless pal, but how did he contacted Crystal, if her phone was silent and stuffed in the couch?

Then here we can find another tidbit:

Search effort for Crystal McCarthy carried out Wednesday along Napa River

At 10:30 p.m., the roommate received a food order placed by McCarthy, but assumed she was in her bedroom.

Why the roommate did not call Crystal? You know, not by phone but by yelling that the food arrived? Why didn't this person attempt to knock at the bedroom door if they thought she was inside? That's just... weird. Also, it seems Crystal left the flat minutes before the food arrived (the order was placed after 10:15, remember?), so how comes the roomie noticed the delivery arriving, but not Crystal going out?

Roomie says also:

A roommate of McCarthy and Wright was home that night and spoke with McCarthy just before 9 p.m., when she asked about an umbrella

and:

Wright, who was among the group searching for McCarthy on Wednesday, said he searched the area the next morning and found McCarthy’s umbrella and boots on the western bank of the Napa River, near their home.

In the snapshot from 7-11 footage Crystal does not carry the umbrella. Why to take the umbrella and not use it afterwards? Also, if she slipped and fell into the river, how did her belongings ended up on the bank? Especially the boots, how do you fell into a river, leaving your boots on the riverbank?

I agree with a lot of these. If she just had dinner with her bf and he was working until midnight why order food and why ask him at 10:15 if he wants food knowing that he wouldnt be back until awhile after it was delivered?

So if she makes it to the 7-11 in less than 20 mins that means she orders food and pays, most likely lost her phone and didn’t realize (guessing it just slipped out and fell in between the cushions) started to walk to the 7-11, met this homeless man on the bridge on the way there, bought alcohol and went down by the bridge to drink with this man. I’m not too worried about the umbrella as the man could be holding it behind her or she could have left it outside, I usually do that. But a few things that dont add up.

1) If the phone was in the couch shortly after 10:15 that would likely be in the communal area that she was in and not her bedroom. So if she was out there and left and then the food came and the roommate had to answer the door to get it why wouldn’t the roommate tell her that her food was there and assume she was in her room? The roommate must have been in their own room or a different area of the home when she ordered on the couch and never heard her leave so you would think they would have been surprised that someone was at the door with food that they didn’t know was ordered and would have asked the delivery person who the food was for and when they said for her would again let her have known that it was delivered or be surprised that if she ordered she wasn’t waiting for it or didn’t leave her room when she heard someone at the door knowing she had just ordered food and that was who was at the door.

2) That is a super fast delivery service to make the food and deliver it in around 10 mins.

3) When you order they tell you when it will be delivered so if they had said 10 mins you think either she would have told the roommate it was on the way and she was running out. OR she would have thought she could make it there and back in time so why would she have gone to drink under the bridge knowing her food was on the way? And if she had her phone on her maybe she would have gone down there to have a drink and been checking her phone to walk back once she saw it was getting close or had been delivered but we know she didn’t have her phone. So if she had just ordered and would have wanted to check her phone to see timing she would have very quickly realized she didn’t have her phone which to me you’d assume she would have gone straight home after getting the alcohol to get her phone.

4) The boots and umbrella were not in the river so that would mean she or someone took them off and left both them and the umbrella up on the bank. Say hypothetically she wanted to dip her toes in, that means she took them off and left them there and didn’t have socks on which if they were similar to UGGs I can see throwing them on without socks but those are nice leatherish looking boots that would be very hard to put on without socks and if you wanted to dip your toes in you clearly would have taken the socks off then too.

5) If they had just bought alcohol and came back to drink under the bridge and he is saying he went to get more that must mean they had already been down there and had a least one drink (say they both got one beer each minimum) they would have had to take the time to drink them both before the man suggested going back to get more. At this point you think she would have either realized she didn’t have her phone and gone and told him she would be back, she would have just gone with him to 7-11 as well or for some odd reason she decided to stay there alone under the bridge and let him go by himself to get them more but then why and why not offer him the umbrella to take? But instead stayed there, kept your umbrella, all alone decided to take your boots off and go down by the river and just happened to fall in the few minutes the man was gone, knowing you didn’t have your phone, your food was being or had already been delivered as too much time had gone by and decided to keep hanging out drinking with this man and he comes back only a few minutes later most likely and she was just gone? That means he saw her boots and umbrella but not her? Where did he think she went with no shoes on? Why not go back to the 7-11 and alert them to call police that the girl you were hanging out with was missing when you got back but her boots and umbrella were still there and you were worried? Also, how did he pay for the alcohol, cash?

6) The boyfriend says that she told him she befriended a homeless person that lived under the bridge which is why he looked there. He also said that he had suspected she was getting alcohol when it came out that her last sighting was doing so. I think it’s very strange that if your gf asks you if you want food at 10:15, you get home at midnight and she is not there, her food hasn’t been touched, she doesn’t answer her phone and you find it in the couch and you had thought she may have left to get alcohol that you wouldn’t wait until the morning to look for her. This should have been immediately very suspicious. Why would you just go to bed as usual and not go to the 7-11 that night and see if she was there or ask them if they had seen her? It’s open 24 hours and typically people have the same patterns so he would know that’s where she would go to get alcohol. If he had they might have told her that she came in with another man earlier and that he came back without her. Why not check under the bridge on your way there or back either if you knew she had befriended someone that lived under there? He then might have either seen her there with him or see the man still there alone and been able to talk to him or have seen her boots and umbrella in the bank and been able to alert police.

None of this makes sense to me from the ordering dinner after you apparently just had dinner all the way up to bf clearly knowing she is missing, has been for some time as the food had not been eaten and you found her phone and then just deciding to go to bed instead of trying to locate her. I know I’d be in panic mode and there was a reason he was not. I’m not accusing him of anything but just pointing out that is not a normal reaction or non reaction should I say. This leads me to believe that maybe this is common behavior for her? Maybe she drinks a lot and orders food and forgets, maybe roommate knew she was drunk when they talked to her earlier and her bedroom door was closed and thought she ordered food and passed out. Maybe this was common for her to get drunk and leave her phone on purpose or accidentally and go and get more alcohol and hang out and just come home whenever so no one was too worried until the morning when they realized she was still not home?

Also not trying to insinuate she was a drunk by any means, maybe Monday is her night off work and that is typically when she likes to let loose but I do think it’s extremely telling that both the bf and roommate would go to bed knowing she apparently left shortly after ordering food and never came back to for it, never came back to get her phone after realizing at some point she didn’t have it and knowing she didn’t have a car and it had been storming etc. it just seems like there is a lot of things that don’t add up.

However I cannot think of one possible scenario that seems reasonable or rational as to how she would have accidentally fallen in other than if she was extremely intoxicated. Perhaps she had already been drinking and her and the man had a lot more. I wonder when he went back for more alcohol. It’s quite possible knowing that alcohol sales in Napa end at 2am that they had been drinking for a few hours at that point as well and was already too intoxicated to go back to 7-11 to get more which is why he went alone but still not understanding taking the boots off at all.

 

[borndem]

The boots off is a mystery -- she could have been planning to give them away to the homeless woman (not likely since they were dressy unless they were uncomfortable, old and scratched, etc., and excuse to buy new ones) and she took another pair of shoes to go back home. Yes, a stretch...


I'm hoping the COD will be solid, but in water and after a few days, with her possibly drinking and with people she probably didn't know well -- who knoze. Also hoping that the homeless folks will be able to give some details about what happened that night.

Thinking about those who loved her... Sounds like she was a bright light and a generous soul. She will be missed.