CA - Dr. Conrad Murray charged in the death of Michael Jackson

[oceanblueeyes]

Dr. Murry already has that. His lawyer successfully defended a nurse in propofol case.

That case was totally different than this case.

This isn't about a nurse who left a syringe of propofol which was in turn given by another nurse to an 80 year old patient.

This is about a licensed doctor who personally administered a deadly cocktail of drugs to his patient even before he gave him the lethal dose of propofol.

imo

 

[Isabelle]

Dr. Murry already has that. His lawyer successfully defended a nurse in propofol case.

Not really. The nurse he defended did not administer propofol, another nurse did. That nurse lost her license to practice; the nurse he defended was placed on probation by the Claifornia Board of Nursing. Both nurses should have been permanently banned from the practice of nursing anywhere in the world.

 

[Isabelle]

Dr. Murry already has that. His lawyer successfully defended a nurse in propofol case.

Not really. The nurse he defended did not administer propofol, another nurse did. That nurse lost her license to practice; the nurse he defended was placed on probation by the Claifornia Board of Nursing. Both nurses should have been permanently banned from the practice of nursing anywhere in the world.

 

[Isabelle]

Is there a way to view this in a location other than TMZ. That won't download for me.

Does anyone think the Medical Board's filing of a complaint publicly may sway the jury, since it is out there for anyone to read.

 

[Isabelle]

Is there a way to view this in a location other than TMZ. That won't download for me.

Does anyone think the Medical Board's filing of a complaint publicly may sway the jury, since it is out there for anyone to read.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Is there a way to view this in a location other than TMZ. That won't download for me.

Does anyone think the Medical Board's filing of a complaint publicly may sway the jury, since it is out there for anyone to read.

You mean to view the autopsy report? I think they have most of it on smokinggun.com.

As far as I know the motion filed by the medical board to revoke his license has not been made available to the public.

I really don't know Isabelle. I don't think it is a surprise to anyone that he is most likely going to lose his license.

imo

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Is there a way to view this in a location other than TMZ. That won't download for me.

Does anyone think the Medical Board's filing of a complaint publicly may sway the jury, since it is out there for anyone to read.

You mean to view the autopsy report? I think they have most of it on smokinggun.com.

As far as I know the motion filed by the medical board to revoke his license has not been made available to the public.

I really don't know Isabelle. I don't think it is a surprise to anyone that he is most likely going to lose his license.

imo

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Isabelle I was wrong and the documents are on the TMZ site.

Since you say you cannot open them up this is an except of what they revealed.

http://www.tmz.com/2010/02/08/dr-con...chael-jackson/

The Medical Board, filed these documents requesting the judge make an order that Murray "cease and desist" from practicing medicine as a condition of bail, in the interest of justice, and that without such restrictions, Murray poses a danger to the public health, safety, and welfare.

Notice of Appearance (pg 2., lines 5-8)


Murrays actions were in violation of the Medical Practicing Act, and are reprehensible;

That he used his license to perpetrate the crime, that but for his license to practice medicine, he would not have had any contact with the victim, MJ, nor the ability to administer the powerful medicine in question, that Murrays criminal conduct and reckless actions taken in the care and treatment of his patient, MJ, makes him a danger to the public.

Notice of Appearance (pg 3., lines 21-26)

That the exercise of such poor professional judgment and placing the life of his patient in jeopardy requires that the court takes measures to protect the public from future harm;

Memorandum of Points & Authorities (pg. 7, lines 21-23)

That an order by a criminal judge is a remedy available to the board, in exigent circumstances, such as this.

imo

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Isabelle I was wrong and the documents are on the TMZ site.

Since you say you cannot open them up this is an except of what they revealed.

http://www.tmz.com/2010/02/08/dr-con...chael-jackson/

The Medical Board, filed these documents requesting the judge make an order that Murray "cease and desist" from practicing medicine as a condition of bail, in the interest of justice, and that without such restrictions, Murray poses a danger to the public health, safety, and welfare.

Notice of Appearance (pg 2., lines 5-8)


Murrays actions were in violation of the Medical Practicing Act, and are reprehensible;

That he used his license to perpetrate the crime, that but for his license to practice medicine, he would not have had any contact with the victim, MJ, nor the ability to administer the powerful medicine in question, that Murrays criminal conduct and reckless actions taken in the care and treatment of his patient, MJ, makes him a danger to the public.

Notice of Appearance (pg 3., lines 21-26)

That the exercise of such poor professional judgment and placing the life of his patient in jeopardy requires that the court takes measures to protect the public from future harm;

Memorandum of Points & Authorities (pg. 7, lines 21-23)

That an order by a criminal judge is a remedy available to the board, in exigent circumstances, such as this.

imo

 

[jjenny]

That case was totally different than this case.

This isn't about a nurse who left a syringe of propofol which was in turn given by another nurse to an 80 year old patient.

This is about a licensed doctor who personally administered a deadly cocktail of drugs to his patient even before he gave him the lethal dose of propofol.

imo

Isabelle suggested Dr. Murray needs a lawyer who successfully defended a case involving the use of propofol. I am pointing out that Dr. Murray has exactly that. His lawyer successfully defended a case involving the use of propofol. Now, if Isabelle suggested that Dr. Murray needs a lawyer that successfully defended a doctor who administered propofol to a famous person in a person's home, then Dr. Murray's lawyer wouldn't fit the bill.

 

[jjenny]

That case was totally different than this case.

This isn't about a nurse who left a syringe of propofol which was in turn given by another nurse to an 80 year old patient.

This is about a licensed doctor who personally administered a deadly cocktail of drugs to his patient even before he gave him the lethal dose of propofol.

imo

Isabelle suggested Dr. Murray needs a lawyer who successfully defended a case involving the use of propofol. I am pointing out that Dr. Murray has exactly that. His lawyer successfully defended a case involving the use of propofol. Now, if Isabelle suggested that Dr. Murray needs a lawyer that successfully defended a doctor who administered propofol to a famous person in a person's home, then Dr. Murray's lawyer wouldn't fit the bill.

 

[jjenny]

Not really. The nurse he defended did not administer propofol, another nurse did. That nurse lost her license to practice; the nurse he defended was placed on probation by the Claifornia Board of Nursing. Both nurses should have been permanently banned from the practice of nursing anywhere in the world.

Dr. Murray's lawyer successfully defended a case involving a use of propofol.
Obviously that case doesn't have the same details as MJ's case, but nonetheless it's a case involving the use of propofol and the lawyer successfully defended it.

 

[jjenny]

Not really. The nurse he defended did not administer propofol, another nurse did. That nurse lost her license to practice; the nurse he defended was placed on probation by the Claifornia Board of Nursing. Both nurses should have been permanently banned from the practice of nursing anywhere in the world.

Dr. Murray's lawyer successfully defended a case involving a use of propofol.
Obviously that case doesn't have the same details as MJ's case, but nonetheless it's a case involving the use of propofol and the lawyer successfully defended it.

 

[shana]

Well, good luck to Murray's defense atty...this case is very much different from his previous 'win'...apples/oranges.

This so-called doctor will likely be convicted on the (imo, way too-far lesser) charge of involuntary manslaughter, no matter the courtroom tricks/antics that we will have to endure in order to see justice for this death at the hands of a licensed MD.

 

[shana]

Well, good luck to Murray's defense atty...this case is very much different from his previous 'win'...apples/oranges.

This so-called doctor will likely be convicted on the (imo, way too-far lesser) charge of involuntary manslaughter, no matter the courtroom tricks/antics that we will have to endure in order to see justice for this death at the hands of a licensed MD.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Cover-Up in Michael Jackson Death?
Posted Mar 1st 2010 8:00AM by TMZ Staff

Michael Jackson received the fatal dose of Propofol through an IV in his leg, and law enforcement believes Dr. Conrad Murray may have tried covering it up ... this according to law enforcement sources and an anesthesiologist who reviewed the case for the LAPD.

Dr. Murray told cops he administered only a very small amount of Propofol -- 2.5ml shortly before Jackson died. But Dr. John Dombrowski, a noted anesthesiologist and member of the board of the American Society of Anesthesiologists who reviewed the LAPD file for detectives, tells TMZ that 2.5ml couldn't put Jackson to sleep, much less kill him. Indeed, the Coroner's report notes the level of Propofol found in Jackson's body was equivalent to that found during "general anesthesia for major surgery."

A small, empty, 20ml bottle of Propofol was found in the bedroom, but there was a secret compartment in a nearby closet that could be the key to the prosecution's case. Several days after Jackson's death, law enforcement found numerous bottles of Propofol in that closet, including a large, empty, 100ml bottle with a large tear in the rubber stopper.

The tear could be critical evidence. There are two ways of administering Propofol. The first is sticking a syringe into the rubber stopper, withdrawing a small amount and then injecting it into the tubing. The second way is by using a spike -- which creates a tear in the rubber stop -- and connects the entire bottle of Propofol to the tube.

Dr. Dombrowski says if a spike is used to connect the bottle directly to the IV tube, the doctor must use an infusion pump to regulate the flow of Propofol -- otherwise, the patient could easily OD. There was no infusion pump found in Jackson's home.

Dr. Dombrowski and law enforcement sources believe Dr. Murray may have connected the 100ml bottle of Propofol to the tube, and then either tried regulating the flow by eyeballing it or just letting it flow by itself ... and Dr. Dombrowski calls either scenario "reckless." Remember, Dr. Murray himself told detectives at one point he walked out of Jackson's room to go to the bathroom.

If Dr. Murray did indeed attach the 100ml bottle to the tube and the contents emptied into Jackson's system, that would be 40 times more Propofol than Dr. Murray said he administered.

There is no explanation for the empty bottle of Propofol in the hidden compartment.



Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2010/03/01/cover...pofol-dr-conrad-murray-lapd-iv/#ixzz0gwIUtjbC

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Cover-Up in Michael Jackson Death?
Posted Mar 1st 2010 8:00AM by TMZ Staff

Michael Jackson received the fatal dose of Propofol through an IV in his leg, and law enforcement believes Dr. Conrad Murray may have tried covering it up ... this according to law enforcement sources and an anesthesiologist who reviewed the case for the LAPD.

Dr. Murray told cops he administered only a very small amount of Propofol -- 2.5ml shortly before Jackson died. But Dr. John Dombrowski, a noted anesthesiologist and member of the board of the American Society of Anesthesiologists who reviewed the LAPD file for detectives, tells TMZ that 2.5ml couldn't put Jackson to sleep, much less kill him. Indeed, the Coroner's report notes the level of Propofol found in Jackson's body was equivalent to that found during "general anesthesia for major surgery."

A small, empty, 20ml bottle of Propofol was found in the bedroom, but there was a secret compartment in a nearby closet that could be the key to the prosecution's case. Several days after Jackson's death, law enforcement found numerous bottles of Propofol in that closet, including a large, empty, 100ml bottle with a large tear in the rubber stopper.

The tear could be critical evidence. There are two ways of administering Propofol. The first is sticking a syringe into the rubber stopper, withdrawing a small amount and then injecting it into the tubing. The second way is by using a spike -- which creates a tear in the rubber stop -- and connects the entire bottle of Propofol to the tube.

Dr. Dombrowski says if a spike is used to connect the bottle directly to the IV tube, the doctor must use an infusion pump to regulate the flow of Propofol -- otherwise, the patient could easily OD. There was no infusion pump found in Jackson's home.

Dr. Dombrowski and law enforcement sources believe Dr. Murray may have connected the 100ml bottle of Propofol to the tube, and then either tried regulating the flow by eyeballing it or just letting it flow by itself ... and Dr. Dombrowski calls either scenario "reckless." Remember, Dr. Murray himself told detectives at one point he walked out of Jackson's room to go to the bathroom.

If Dr. Murray did indeed attach the 100ml bottle to the tube and the contents emptied into Jackson's system, that would be 40 times more Propofol than Dr. Murray said he administered.

There is no explanation for the empty bottle of Propofol in the hidden compartment.



Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2010/03/01/cover...pofol-dr-conrad-murray-lapd-iv/#ixzz0gwIUtjbC

 

[oceanblueeyes]

LAPD: Dr. Conrad Murray's GF Holds Secrets
Posted Mar 26th 2010 7:22PM by TMZ Staff

LAPD detectives were on the hunt for Dr. Conrad Murray's communications with his baby mama, Nicole Alvarez -- a woman cops believe knows a lot about Michael Jackson's death.





Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2010/03/26/micha...lapd-detectives-search-warrant/#ixzz0jKmDB8kE

 

[oceanblueeyes]

LAPD: Dr. Conrad Murray's GF Holds Secrets
Posted Mar 26th 2010 7:22PM by TMZ Staff

LAPD detectives were on the hunt for Dr. Conrad Murray's communications with his baby mama, Nicole Alvarez -- a woman cops believe knows a lot about Michael Jackson's death.





Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2010/03/26/micha...lapd-detectives-search-warrant/#ixzz0jKmDB8kE

 

[BOZGAL]

Dr. Murray: Why Apologize? I Did Nothing Wrong
Posted Mar 28th 2010 11:55AM by TMZ Staff

TMZ has learned Dr. Conrad Murray has not reached out to Michael Jackson's family to apologize for the death of the singer. As for why Dr. Murray has not apologized ... he believes he did nothing improper that would have led to Jackson's death.

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2010/03/28/dr-conrad-murray-michael-jackson-propofol-apology/#ixzz0jxF6cs64

I meant to post this the other day. Very telling to me for the defendant to say these words. After admitting to administering a deadly cocktail and lethal doses of Propofol I cannot believe he would say such a thing.

JMO