CA CA - East Area Rapist/Golden State Killer *ARREST* #4

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The list grows like the scarf I am knitting: I shall continue, as I guess this list will keep growing.:D
Nicely said!
 
  • #762
I was very pleasantly surprised yesterday when not one but two brand new episodes of the 12-26-75 podcast were released.

Of course, this is the podcast that was telling anyone who would listen from when it started in April 2017 right up until the arrest of JJD that the Visalia Ransacker was the same offender as the EAR/ONS.

Episode 19 is called Nancy and deals with a young women who was abducted, raped and almost murdered in a location and circumstances incredibly similar to those of Jennifer Armour and Donna Richmond.

Ep. 19 Nancy

While I am not 100% convinced that JJD murdered Jennifer Armour and Donna Richmond it is very hard to disagree with the assertion that the same individual most likely attacked Jennifer, Donna and 'Nancy', and hence Oscar Clifton cannot be guilty of the crimes.


Episode 20 is called Take Another Look and deals with some other unsolved murders in the area. It also looks at a man named Kenneth Andrew Lane who was seemingly framed for the murders of Kimberley Best and Paige Sinclair.

Ep. 20 Take Another Look

Again it is not clear that DeAngelo is responsible for the murder of Kimberley and Paige, but in the same way that a person with knowledge of police procedures may have framed Oscar Clifton it seems certain that Lane was also being framed.

Luckily - unlike Oscar Clifton who died in jail - three separate juries failed to convict Lane of murdering the two young girls.
 
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I was very pleasantly surprised yesterday when not one but two brand new episodes of the 12-26-75 podcast were released.

Of course, this is the podcast that was telling anyone who would listen from when it started in April 2017 right up until the arrest of JJD that the Visalia Ransacker was the same offender as the EAR/ONS.

Episode 19 is called Nancy and deals with a young women who was abducted, raped and almost murdered in a location and circumstances incredibly similar to those of Jennifer Armour and Donna Richmond.

Ep. 19 Nancy

While I am not 100% convinced that JJD murdered Jennifer Armour and Donna Richmond it is very hard to disagree with the assertion that the same individual most likely attacked Jennifer, Donna and 'Nancy', and hence Oscar Clifton cannot be guilty of the crimes.


Episode 20 is called Take Another Look and deals with some other unsolved murders in the area. It also looks at a man named Kenneth Andrew Lane who was seemingly framed for the murders of Kimberley Best and Paige Sinclair.

Ep. 20 Take Another Look

Again it is not clear that DeAngelo is responsible for the murder of Kimberley and Paige, but in the same way that a person with knowledge of police procedures may have framed Oscar Clifton it seems certain that Lane was also being framed.

Luckily - unlike Oscar Clifton who died in jail - three separate juries failed to convict Lane of murdering the two young girls.

Thanks GreyClay, for providing this info.
It should be very interesting to follow, and perhaps provide loads of further thoughts about similar cases.
MOO.
 
  • #764
Another episode of the incredible 12-26-75 podcast, looking at yet another double murder that could possibly be linked to the EAR / JJD:

Ep. 21 P G And E

"PG and E" Episode 21 is now streaming, available on iTunes, GooglePlay, and all of your favorite services. We take a look at the double homicide of PG & E employees Carla Burkart and Bill Harrington. March 3, 1977, Granite Bay, California.
 
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Hmmm....the police always thought that there were two burglars because a large television had been moved. Plus--knocking the doorknob off as a means of entry? Didn't the EAR always use a bit more stealth? Back window, not visible from the street, etc.

Could be him, but it just doesn't seem like it. My opinion only.
 
  • #766
You may be 100% correct cb73. :)

Playing devil's advocate, you could also argue that the crime in question was never meant to be a simple ransacking/burglary, but was in fact meant to be a rape and/or kidnapping murder. The female occupant of the house would usually have been home alone at the time of the burglary, but just happened to be at hospital with her husband.

JJD experimented with numerous different 'alarms', eg a perfume bottle placed on a door handle, to alert him if a homeowner returned home while he was still in their house. Perhaps the missing doorknob in this case was the result of frustration at not finding his intended victim at home, and / or a means to ensure her husband didn't unexpectedly interrupt JJD ransacking the home.

Moving a gun around inside a house reminds me of JJD's disdain for his victims attempts to protect themselves from him. Eg removing the ammunition from a loaded gun in another instance and hiding it under the cushions of the couch.

Moving around televisions was a feature in at least one of JJD's known crimes - he moved a television into the backyard of Manuela Witthuhn. Before he was aware that his DNA would tie many of his crimes together I believe JJD was attempting to cover up some of his murders as being "burglaries gone wrong"

And brutally eliminating witnesses who most likely couldn't identify him anyway is so similar to how JJD murdered Claude Snelling and then Brian and Katie Maggiore (as well as instantly firing on Detective McGowen and Rodney Miller.)

But unless JJD starts confessing to some of these crimes we will likely never be sure which (if any?) of these additional murders he really was responsible for.

Thanks again for your input cb73, you may be right that JJD was not involved in the murders of Carla Burkart and Bill Harrington at all. But there are definitely enough similarities with the murders of Professor Snelling, Manuela Witthuhn and the Maggiores to make me very willing to believe that JJD could well be responsible for this horrible crime.

My opinions only. :)
 
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Wow, read about this case:


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He Says He Got Away With 90 Murders. Now He’s Confessing to Them All.
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© Nick Ut/Associated Press Samuel Little during a hearing in Los Angeles in 2014.
Nearly every day for weeks, a white-haired man in a wheelchair, his body ravaged by diabetes and heart disease, has been escorted under heavy guard from a Texas jail cell to an interview room to speak about evil.

Day by day, the authorities say, he has recounted details of long-ago murders: faces, places, the layouts of small towns. He has described how he picked up vulnerable women from bars, nightclubs and along streets and strangled them to death in the back seat of his car.

The man, Samuel Little, 78, has confessed to more than 90 murders, investigators say, stretching back almost half a century. Mr. Little already is serving three life sentences for the murders of three Los Angeles women during the 1980s, but the authorities suspect him of killing women in at least 14 states. Investigators say they have established Mr. Little’s ties to about 30 of the murders so far, and have little reason to doubt his confessions.
 
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Further to the report:

“By the time we are done, we anticipate that Samuel Little will be confirmed as one of the most prolific serial killers in American history,” said Bobby Bland, the district attorney of Ector County, Tex., where Mr. Little is being held after a grand jury indicted him this summer for a 1994 killing.

Gary Ridgway, the Green River Killer, was convicted of 49 murders in Washington State during the 1980s and 1990s, the highest number of murder convictions for an American serial killer.

How a serial murderer could go on killing for years, apparently without anyone noticing a pattern, seems perplexing. But even the most effective police departments solve only about three-quarters of homicides, meaning that thousands of people get away with murder each year. Also, the killings Mr. Little is said to have admitted to occurred in a wide range of counties and states. Many of the women whom Mr. Little is believed to have killed were poor and addicted to drugs, alcohol, or both — a group of people that often are not reported missing for weeks and sometimes receive fewer investigative resources than others.
 
  • #770
In the case of Mr. Little:

"It was DNA evidence collected over years in the criminal justice system that first connected Mr. Little to several women who had been killed. Then, this year, a Texas Ranger named James Holland visited Mr. Little in a Los Angeles County prison and succeeded in winning his confidence, the authorities said. The stories began to tumble out, setting off a transfer to Texas and a frenzy of visits from investigators with cold cases from all over the nation.

Part of Mr. Little’s impetus for talking now, investigators say, is that he seems to prefer the Ector County jail to the noisy, often chaotic environment of a Los Angeles County prison. Investigators who have spoken to him say he also appears to enjoy the attention he is receiving as he recites details only a killer would know, after decades of discussing them with no one.

Officials in Texas said Mr. Little would not be made available for an interview for this article, and a public defender who recently represented him declined to comment.

As the weeks have passed and new cases and details have emerged, more than a dozen local investigators, along with the F.B.I., have flocked to Texas to speak to Mr. Little in person.

The authorities say Mr. Little displays no sign of remorse while discussing the killings. He is exacting with certain details, they say, including where he left the women’s bodies years ago: A dumpster, near a hog pit, under a pecan tree. The investigators say he is matter-of-fact about his actions, and sometimes even chuckles about them; other times, they said, he speaks so quickly, with such excitement, that they struggle to understand his words."
 
  • #771
Deangelo has another hearing tomorrow afternoon at about 1:30. I heard one comment that it has to do with whether he should have a state-funded attorney or not, but I don't know if that's speculation or fact.

Just saw a story that Sacramento County is saying they expect his trial to cost upwards of $20 million--and they don't know how they're going to pay for it. Hmmmm........
 
  • #772
Deangelo has another hearing tomorrow afternoon at about 1:30. I heard one comment that it has to do with whether he should have a state-funded attorney or not, but I don't know if that's speculation or fact.

Just saw a story that Sacramento County is saying they expect his trial to cost upwards of $20 million--and they don't know how they're going to pay for it. Hmmmm........

Perhaps, it will take ages, to decide where/how they have this money.
But that is fine.
This jerk remains 'locked up' never to be released.
Perhaps he may not 'live' too long as is elderly, and pretending to be frail.o_Oo_O
MOO.
 
  • #773
Thursday, Dec. 6th:
*Motions Hearing (@ 1:35pm PT) - CA - Katie (20) & Brian (21) Maggiore (Feb. 2, 1978 in Rancho Cordova) - *Joseph James DeAngelo (72/32 @ time of crime) (East Area Rapist/Golden State Killer) - arrested (4/24/18) & formally charged (4/27/18) with 2 counts of 1st degree murder with special enhancements for burglary and rape; did not enter plea. Sacramento County.
Relative's (Great-great-great grandfather’s) DNA from genealogy website (GEDMatch) cracked East Area Rapist case, DA's office says.
8/22/18 Update: amended complaint also includes 13 new charges of kidnapping to commit robbery, with sentencing enhancements for using a firearm and a knife during those alleged crimes. Nine in Sacramento and four in Contra Costa County-stemming from sexual assaults.
4/27/18 Update: charged in Ventura County of 2 counts of 1st degree murder with special circumstances for being a double homicide in the deaths of Charlene (33) & Lyman (43) Smith on 3/13/80 in Ventura.
5/10/18 Update: charged in Santa Barbara County of the 4 counts of 1st degree murder with special circumstances, where investigators believe he killed Dr. Robert Offerman (44) & Dr. Debra Alexandria Manning (35) on December 30, 1979 and Cheri Domingo (35) & Gregory Sanchez (27) on July 27, 1981, all in Goleta. Each carries a possible sentence of death or life in prison without parole.
5/11/18 Update: charged in Orange County with 4 counts of 1st degree murder with special circumstances. Patrice Harrington (28) & Keith Harrington (24) on 8/19/80 in Dana Point, Manuela Witthuhn (21) on 2/26/81 in Irvine & Janelle Lisa Cruz (18) on 5/4/86 in Irvine.
8/13/18 Update: charged in Tulare County with 1 count of 1st degree murder with use of a firearm in the death of Claude Snelling (45) (Sept. 11, 1975) in Visalia.
Total 13 counts of 1st degree murder.
All will be tried in Sacramento County: charged with 13 counts of murder with special circumstances, including murder committed during the course of a burglary and rape. The amended complaint also includes 13 new charges of kidnapping to commit robbery, with sentencing enhancements for using a firearm and a knife during those alleged crimes.

5/2/18: A motion hearing involving a sealed search warrant in the case.
5/4/18: Judge denies defense motion. Rules search warrant seeking photos & DNA of JJD will proceed.
5/14/18: DeAngelo's last hearing was on 5/29 for the judge to decide on various motions from the defense, including one to close coverage of the hearings to the media. DeAngelo's lawyers also are fighting to keep the arrest warrant and search warrant affidavits sealed, despite a motion from The Sacramento Bee and numerous other news organizations to release them. JJD might enter a plea at today’s (5/29) hearing.
5/29/18: Judge will decide on 5/31/18 regarding release of some documents.
5/29/18 Update: East Area rapist case will be continued to Thursday (5/31) afternoon @ 1:35pm. No decision yet on whether judge will unseal warrants. Judge expects to release some documents in East Area Rapist case by Friday, with redactions. JJD did not enter a plea on Wednesday 5/29.
5/31/18 Update: Lawyers in the East Area Rapist case. This hearing was closed to the public, held Judge’s chambers. Attorneys Thursday continued to hash out what information should be redacted from arrest and search warrants that a judge in Sacramento plans to release as early as Friday (6/1).
6/1/18: Hearing was closed to public. Another Motions hearing today, June 1st.

6/1/18 Update: The DNA evidence that authorities used to arrest Joseph James DeAngelo in the East Area Rapist case came from swabbing his car door in a public parking lot and later retrieving a used tissue from his trash can, newly released court documents show. Investigators had JJD under surveillance as a suspect. Details related to homicides could be unsealed, Judge Sweet said, adding that DeAngelo has been charged with the offenses and information is already in the public domain. But information related to sex crime allegations will remain under seal, Sweet ruled, agreeing with defense attorneys that "widespread public dissemination may result in inaccurate, inadmissible information." "The defendant is not charged" with sex crimes, Sweet said. Information about possible sex crimes, the judge said, would prejudice his right to a fair trial. The judge agreed that search warrant information regarding DeAngelo's alleged murder victims, including Brian and Katie Maggiore, who were killed in Rancho Cordova in 1978, can be released. They didn’t release any evidence found. But the judge said he was keeping sealed for now any information about what was seized from
computers, cellphones, photo albums, cars or his home, saying that releasing that information would "create an overwhelming prejudice." Much of the nearly 200 pages of documents focus on attacks the East Area Rapist made in the Sacramento area in the 1970s, and although many of those details have been publicly known for years, the judge had many redacted because they related to sex crimes for which DeAngelo has not been charged.
7/11/18 Update: DeAngelo has already been charged with 12 GSK murders up and down the state and will soon be charged with a 13th. Sgt. Damon Maurice, public information officer for the Visalia Police Department, said in an interview last week that VPD submitted its criminal case against DeAngelo on May 30 for the murder of Claude Snelling. “The case is currently under review by the District Attorney’s Office,” Maurice said.
7/12/18 Update: Brief hearing, Defense asked for more discovery; also defense objected to media coverage in courtroom (still cameras only) Judge overrules objection. Next hearing 9/5.
8/21/18 Update: Hearing added after press conference with all County attorneys for 8/23.
8/22/18 Update: Prosecutors in six counties filed an amended felony complaint in Sacramento Superior Court that combined the previous cases against DeAngelo in those counties. Those charges include 13 counts of murder with special circumstances, including murder committed during the course of a burglary and rape, prosecutors said. The amended complaint also includes 13 new charges of kidnapping to commit robbery, with sentencing enhancements for using a firearm and a knife during those alleged crimes, authorities said. Case will be tried in Sacramento County.
8/23/18 Update: Next court date is 12/6/18. He did not enter a plea, and the judge set the next hearing in the case for Dec. 6, at which the issue of whether he deserves a free public defender will be argued.
His mayhem touched 10 counties, and he was variously called the East Area Rapist, Original Nightstalker, Diamond Knot Killer and Visalia Ransacker before authorities discovered that the various strings of crimes appeared to be the work of a single man. responsible for 12 homicides, 45 rapes, and 120 home burglaries between 1974 and 1986, when his crimes appeared to mysteriously end. In 2001, DNA evidence linked the East Area Rapist and Original Nightstalker cases.



I guess I could cut this down a bit, eh?
 
  • #774
Dec 6 2018
California serial killer trial could cost $20 million
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"A Sacramento County official said Wednesday the county has asked the state to help shoulder the costs for prosecuting Joseph DeAngelo.

"While the current estimate is more than $20 million, it is impossible at this point to accurately estimate all costs. We anticipate the complexities of the case, including 40 years of evidence, to greatly affect the final cost," said Natasha Drane of the county's office of Governmental Relations and Legislation.

The estimate comes as DeAngelo is scheduled to appear in court Thursday. A spokeswoman for the district attorney's office could not provide details on the hearing in advance, and the public defender's office could not be reached for comment."
rbbm.
 
  • #775
Taxpayers on the hook for defense of East Area Rapist suspect, judge rules
December 06, 2018 02:41 PM
Updated 2 hours 22 minutes ago

The suspect in the East Area Rapist/Golden State Killer case is considered indigent under the law and entitled to have Sacramento County public defenders represent him in a case that could last another 10 years and cost $20 million, a judge ruled Thursday.

“I’ve determined he is not able to afford his own defense,” Sacramento Superior Court Judge Michael Sweet declared as suspect Joseph James DeAngelo stood in a courtroom cage nearby watching impassively.
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DeAngelo is due back in court for his next hearing April 10.
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Maybe a 10% synopsis from someone here? :)
I sent you a "conversation" with a pretty good "synopsis" ;)

I think I did, anyway... but I did it quickly as I'm on a lunch break, so I apologize if it didn't cut and paste well.
 
  • #780
I sent you a "conversation" with a pretty good "synopsis" ;)

I think I did, anyway... but I did it quickly as I'm on a lunch break, so I apologize if it didn't cut and paste well.

Got it! :)
 
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