Found Deceased CA - Elizabeth Ernstein, 14, Redlands, 18 March 1968

  • #121
Elizabeth’s boyfriend talks about her older sister not liking them dating earlier in the thread, if it really is him. He was 19 or 20 (I’ve seen differing reports of his age) and Elizabeth’s sister Rose was 20. Sounds like she was trying to protect her middle school age sister from an adult man.

Cold case murder solved
 
  • #122
Sorry for posting so many thoughts in a row-
If James G. who posted here is who he says he is, notice how in his first post he refers to himself as her boyfriend. Next post he refers to himself as her friend.

It’s like he’s trying to minimize their relationship. Make it seem more casual. Big difference between boyfriend and friend.
 
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Elizabeth Lurene Ernstein (14)
 
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Doe Network has listed Elizabeth as found in San Bernardino, California in 1969
 

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Sorry for posting so many thoughts in a row-
If James G. who posted here is who he says he is, notice how in his first post he refers to himself as her boyfriend. Next post he refers to himself as her friend.

It’s like he’s trying to minimize their relationship. Make it seem more casual. Big difference between boyfriend and friend.
If he was 'almost 20' at the time as he mentions, and she was only aged 14, that is not a good thing, to put it mildly.
 
  • #128
The account given about climbing a tree seems strange now that I reread it. It's rather anecdotal and unnecessary. And he said "I sometimes climbed up into a tree". Sometimes, but not necessarily this time? Sounds predatory. The fact that Liz disappeared near an orange grove and this statement is most unsettling.

In the first post he said "only a short time (maybe a week) before she disappeared, Elizabeth called my family" and in the other post he said it was about 3 weeks. This stood out for me as well "I'd especially like to know if Elizabeth's older sister is still alive." What would the purpose of this be? His own disclosure was that he never met or spoke with her.

We don't know if these two (JG and Liz) had sexual relations but the hospital account really stands out. I wonder if he had actually set up to meet there because she may have been pregnant and it was the only time she could get there without her parents knowing. Perhaps her death was a result of a backroom abortion attempt.

Amazingly, he produces the exact date (March 7th) he began hitchhiking to NY. Why was there this sudden need to go across country and then to soon after join the Army? I wonder if there is something to corroborate JG not being in the the state on the 18th.

I'm assuming all this has been brought to the attention of the cold case detectives, at least from a few posts it seems so. Hope so!
 
  • #129
Yes, but the headline should now read Found then. So I will ask the moderator about that.
Her case is in the cold case forum not missing person forum
 
  • #130
Her case is in the cold case forum not missing person forum

Ah! Okay, got a bit mixed up there thanks. I'm sure the moderator will tell me that too lol.
 
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Bump.
 
  • #133
He's still posting! The same things! On a zodiac forum:

THE MURDER OF ELIZABETH ERNSTEIN

Scroll to the comments.

"I was a very close friend of Elizabeth Ernstein in 1967 and early 1968. About December of 1967 or January of 1968, she called my house where my sister answered the phone. I was gone at the time. Elizabeth asked my sister to tell me..."
 
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He's still posting! The same things! On a zodiac forum:

THE MURDER OF ELIZABETH ERNSTEIN

Scroll to the comments.

"I was a very close friend of Elizabeth Ernstein in 1967 and early 1968. About December of 1967 or January of 1968, she called my house where my sister answered the phone. I was gone at the time. Elizabeth asked my sister to tell me..."

Interesting find! And good grief, now his supposed daughter posted right after he did.
 
  • #135
Jeff - If you're still on, I would like to connect. I never got your email because my messages were full. Please try to message me again. If you can't, let me know and I will try to figure out a way to you mine.
 
  • #136
He's still posting! The same things! On a zodiac forum:

THE MURDER OF ELIZABETH ERNSTEIN

Scroll to the comments.

"I was a very close friend of Elizabeth Ernstein in 1967 and early 1968. About December of 1967 or January of 1968, she called my house where my sister answered the phone. I was gone at the time. Elizabeth asked my sister to tell me..."
I did see that as well.
 
  • #137
Jeff - If you're still on, I would like to connect. I never got your email because my messages were full. Please try to message me again. If you can't, let me know and I will try to figure out a way to you mine.
I’ve been trying to reach him too. Hope he’s ok.
 
  • #138
I hope someone is paying attention. I haven't been on for a very long time and was shocked to see that he was still posting the same things. Something is not quite right.
 
  • #139
I don’t know if the victim’s relatives or brother still read here but I’d like to contact them if possible for an interview. I think this case is solvable.
 
  • #140
I think this case may be related

 

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