CA CA - Ember Graham, 7 mos, Happy Valley, 2 July 2015 - #2

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  • #561
Please, please: Links to video & pics for 'the vigil' - - I've read all over that Matthew seemed odd - please, please, links ! (Normally I'm google queen, but have seen only 1 measly photo...) tyia:moo:
 
  • #562
For the record, it's perfectly legal to carry a concealed semi-auto handgun in the state of California, and permits are issued for a myriad of reasons. You would never leave your house if you knew how many people you encounter daily who are carrying. I don't find it odd at all, and it doesn't feel like a big deal to me in any way. She has every right to carry her weapon if she has a permit. No flags should be raised about it.

And her son knew she carried, so he went and got it. If she is an ex-LE, she should have predicted this and been more careful, however.
 
  • #563
I came back hoping for a great update only to find that Graham is on the run.

My heart is so broken for all of these babies that are at the mercy of their parents. I will never understand a parent who hurts their child on purpose. Who takes their life by intention or neglect.
I just can not understand it.
 
  • #564
I don't think that's a lie. My understanding is that most crime labs are seriously backed up - and this sort of case isn't going to get the priority handling that a case like the two escaped convicts got.

Then there are cases like the DC family that was murdered and they knew their suspect from DNA from the pizza crust left behind. It only took days to get that.

ETA- I understand the importance to get the DNA quickly for those murders but it makes me wish it all could be done quickly.
 
  • #565
Please, please: Links to video & pics for 'the vigil' - - I've read all over that Matthew seemed odd - please, please, links ! (Normally I'm google queen, but have seen only 1 measly photo...) tyia:moo:

I did a search in this thread and found the link:

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=397480683784038&id=267727076759400

It's the only one I know of. It only shows a few seconds of actual footage. I looked on YouTube previously and couldn't find anything but there may be something uploaded by now.
 
  • #566
For the record, it's perfectly legal to carry a concealed semi-auto handgun in the state of California, and permits are issued for a myriad of reasons. You would never leave your house if you knew how many people you encounter daily who are carrying. Everywhere, no obvious stereotype.
Do you happen to know how it works for non-residents? Do they honor other state's permits? His mom is a resident of Florida, so would her Florida permits stand or would she need a special one for California. I don't own guns and have no clue how the laws all work.
 
  • #567
According to LE the arrest warrant is for "felon in possession of a firearm" so his goose is already cooked by that charge.

MG's mother is from Gainesville, FL not Redding. I lived there for three years and I don't remember it being a hotbed of violent crime so yeah, why is she traveling around with a gun in her purse? Of course I lived there decades ago so maybe it's different now but I don't think so.

Good that she had it in her purse though - convenient for MG. :facepalm: And yes, I'm being sarcastic.

http://www.redding.com/news/local-n...after-he-is-named-person-of-interest_39675052

What the heck was her job? years on the job? back in Fla? full name? Surely then she wouldn't have been a part of a crazy fight in Mercy Hosp. - super tacky to fight in a hospital - shows zero regard for anyone but me me me (whoever the people were...)

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CELL PHONES - My understanding is to know no one can track you, you have to take out the battery........

I believe all that information is somewhere in the first thread. It was reported that MGs mom is an ex-deputy.
 
  • #568
I've seen some pictures of the area they are searching (link below).....and since I can't post the picture from MG's own Facebook page along with the comment that they (he/Jamie) took Ember there (in the past).......I'll try to ask this another way. Does anyone in the area know if the search area contains a large body of water and park? Or if Ono where the pacifier was found is close to such an area. If I'm allowed to link to the picture /post on FB - I will. Didn't think so though which is why I uploaded the picture.

this is a link to the article but not the picture I'm talking about from MG....I have it though and would gladly post if I can:

http://www.timesunion.com/news/crime/article/Search-resumes-for-missing-baby-in-Northern-6379380.php
 
  • #569
I believe all that information is somewhere in the first thread. It was reported that MGs mom is an ex-deputy.

Sheila Graham, Matthew Ryan Graham’s mother, worked in the early 2000s for the Shasta County Sheriff’s Office.

Although he did not have exact years, Bosenko confirmed she was a sheriff’s deputy. He said she later was employed in the Shasta County Jail and then at the Shasta County Marshal’s Office.

He said her former employment had no bearing on the case.

“It makes absolutely no difference that she was deputy sheriff on this investigation. The investigation will proceed like any other investigation,” he said.


http://www.redding.com/news/local-n...ng-baby-case-take-authorities-to-ono_80945585
 
  • #570
Do you happen to know how it works for non-residents? Do they honor other state's permits? His mom is a resident of Florida, so would her Florida permits stand or would she need a special one for California. I don't own guns and have no clue how the laws all work.
I do not know. She is ex-LE, so would know if she had to declare as soon as she got here or not. If it was required and she didn't, she just got in big trouble.
 
  • #571
RBBM

The thing is, for men, there aren't any options if they don't want to be a parent. They don't have the right to choose abortion, and they don't have the right to offer their baby for adoption if the mother says no. They don't have the option of saying okay, well, I'm not going to support you - a subpeona will be served, and they will be taken to court for child support.

As it should be, actually, is what I believe. But men who don't want to parent and have an accidental pregnancy have no options whatsoever. Only the women have those options. I wonder if there would be less violence done to kids if men did have options.

Which, I guess they do. They can choose not to have sex.

I am close with someone whose ex didn't want any parts of his child. The Mom (my friend) didn't want the child with him anyway so after he missed several visitations the judge waived his support with agreement that he had no contact with the child. This was 20 years ago so I don't know if such an arrangement would be possible in today's world . Most women want financial support.
 
  • #572
I did a search in this thread and found the link:

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=397480683784038&id=267727076759400

It's the only one I know of. It only shows a few seconds of actual footage. I looked on YouTube previously and couldn't find anything but there may be something uploaded by now.

Thx - i checked youtube - nuttin'. If it were me trying to talk like that mom, I'd fall apart and there'd be tears. As to Matthew, seems like he's just sorta trying to 'stay a bit behind' the mom & mom's to do all the talkin'.
 
  • #573
I did a search in this thread and found the link:

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=397480683784038&id=267727076759400

It's the only one I know of. It only shows a few seconds of actual footage. I looked on YouTube previously and couldn't find anything but there may be something uploaded by now.

Thanks this is the first time I have seen the video. Interestingly at the beginning it looks like MG is going to fall apart. At the end he has some closed body language with his hands stuffed under his armpits.
 
  • #574
I've seen some pictures of the area they are searching (link below).....and since I can't post the picture from MG's own Facebook page along with the comment that they (he/Jamie) took Ember there (in the past).......I'll try to ask this another way. Does anyone in the area know if the search area contains a large body of water and park? Or if Ono where the pacifier was found is close to such an area. If I'm allowed to link to the picture /post on FB - I will. Didn't think so though which is why I uploaded the picture.

this is a link to the article but not the picture I'm talking about from MG....I have it though and would gladly post if I can:

http://www.timesunion.com/news/crime/article/Search-resumes-for-missing-baby-in-Northern-6379380.php

BBM. Here's a map:

https://goo.gl/maps/VtkDR
 
  • #575
Thank you - it appears to have water. and I will check to see if any parks in Ono look like the one in the picture I have which is pretty vague - rocks by the water and geese .
 
  • #576
"REDDING, California - UPDATE: 11:40 A.M.:

Matthew Graham is still being sought by the Shasta County Sheriff's Office, according to a press release issued at 11:30 a.m.

Sgt. Pat Kropholler said Graham, a person of interest in his daughter's disappearance, was last seen at the intersection of Court and Tehama streets. He was on foot, and there's no sign that he had access to a vehicle. "

<snip>

"Kropholler added that anyone who helps Graham will face charges and prosecution. "

<snip>

"Correction: An earlier version of this article described a vehicle that may have been associated with Graham because incorrect was information provided by a source. The article has been updated."


BBM

http://www.redding.com/news/local-news/graham-on-the-lam-sheriff-says_71911643
 
  • #577
Based on your experience and expertise, and pairing it with the specifics of this particular case, what do you think the outcome will be? In other words, who did what?

I can't say my opinion is due to legal expertise, with the exception of how guilty versus innocent defendants act and how most people talk, cooperate and if guilty, easily incriminate themselves. IME, while even guilty people talk and cooperate, virtually only innocent people clam up.

Other than that I base my opinion on following these cases for years. And many of the veteran sleuthers have much more experience than I! But for me, the minute I heard about the missing hour I felt it was intentional.

I think the dude took her out somewhere, killed her and dumped her body and then came home and pretended to find her missing the next morning. I think she was alive at the store and not with him when he drove past it an hour later. That's why I don't think it was a neglect situation.

His lack of "remorse", as the media quoted (which I took to mean lack of concern or guilt that she disappeared on his watch), as well as the fact that he referred to her as "it", also point me away from a death from simple neglect. If he got too high and forgot her meds or left her accidentally in a car or whatever, he would show more concern and sorrow. Especially given his age.

I don't think his wife is involved at all. She is quite young and apparently in love. And (this part is from my job), it can take a long time for even an older woman to accept the failings of her man. But the younger the woman, the harder it is for her to accept he is a creep. It takes a lot for some to walk away from an abuser or to even accept that their man has abused their child.

Could cannabis oil kill a 7 mos old? I know there are lots of people using it to treat seizures in kids, so I can totally see a dad who is already familiar with the product trying it, but is it really possible that an accidental death would occur?

The cannabis used to treat kids and others with seizure disorder does not have THC and does not get you high. I've never heard of death from regular cannabis overdose to begin with.

I am not sure if she is still standing by him. He is worried and something about the investigation spooked him. Whether it be the pacifier or the location of the search. What I find even stranger is that it has been 10 days, the child was reported missing and still no active amber alert has been issued. Thats pretty bizarre in itself.

This case doesn't fit the criteria for an amber alert.

Agreed. And call it tunnel vision but the only way I see MG's decision to run is that he realized that LE was in the right area and if/when they located Ember they'd be knocking on his door.

Of all possible scenarios that one fits the best. At the vigil he looked like he was ready to pop. LE had discontinued the search but the local community vowed to keep going. MG's family and supporters were heavily criticizing LE for not being thorough enough and LE responded by impounding his truck. He knew that the investigation would go on until Ember was found.

LE naming him a POI and releasing details of the interview put tremendous pressure on him. He chose to dummy up and hope that LE would never find Ember. Then LE got a new lead that took them to the area by Gas Point Road and finally to Ono. IMO that's when he knew things were about to fall apart.

LE finding a pacifier only "similar" to one Ember had caused him to run. Why? Because he's guilty. He didn't steal the cash and the gun in order to hunt down some fantasy kidnapper in Ono, he freaked because he knew the pacifier was Ember's.

http://www.redding.com/news/local-news/vigil-message-keep-looking-for-infant_84874613

Great post.

Maybe he took her cell phone to delay her alerting LE by a few minutes, so he could get a head start. Or, maybe he had been exchanging texts with his mom and wanted to get rid of the evidence. (Silly, but maybe not if he wrote something that admitted he was guilty.)
What was the mom doing walking around with a semi-automatic weapon in her purse?

Maybe he knew LE was tracking his own cell?

This may not be true but I thought for sure on one reporter's tweets yesterday it said the cell phone had been turned off and not pinging again. Did anyone see that and/ or save the link? TIA ( maybe it was a rumor )

I did see that.

What the heck was her job? years on the job? back in Fla? full name? Surely then she wouldn't have been a part of a crazy fight in Mercy Hosp. - super tacky to fight in a hospital - shows zero regard for anyone but me me me (whoever the people were...)

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CELL PHONES - My understanding is to know no one can track you, you have to take out the battery........

So if it's turned off it can still ping?
 
  • #578
Wait, where did the information come from that he had a vehicle? Wasn't that released by LE or was that a rumor? Now they say he is on foot?
 
  • #579
Wait, where did the information come from that he had a vehicle? Wasn't that released by LE or was that a rumor? Now they say he is on foot?

This info was released by MSM last night. However MSM retracted it today.

ETA - it was originally attributed to LE:

"Graham stole cash and a pistol from his mother this afternoon in Redding, Bosenko said. Officers think Graham may be in Caldwell Park, Benton Drive or in the Sacramento River Trail area, where searches are underway this afternoon.

Graham may be in an older model, brown Honda or import vehicle, Bosenko said. Graham's pickup has been impounded."

http://www.redding.com/news/local-n...ng-baby-case-take-authorities-to-ono_80945585
 
  • #580
Could cannabis oil kill a 7 mos old? I know there are lots of people using it to treat seizures in kids, so I can totally see a dad who is already familiar with the product trying it, but is it really possible that an accidental death would occur?

I believe so. I know an adult with cancer who took way too much his first time & had to be rushed to the hospital.
 
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