CA CA - Emmanuel Haro, 7-months, reported kidnapped 7:30pm from Big 5 parking lot, Yucaipa Blvd, Yucaipa, 14 Aug 2025 *Arrest* #3

[Col_Mustard]

To me, it sounds like he hasn’t admitted to anything, real or fake. It sounds like imo LE has some information (cell phone data? vehicle data? tip from someone who saw a car like theirs parked there?) that made them think Emmanuel could be there. Maybe they brought JH in hopes he’d give something away that would help them locate the body.

Maybe they also hoped they could use images of him there to scare RH into giving up the kidnapping story?

I was going to suggest the same thing because LE said JH wasnt helping eith the investigation or search at all. So maybe they brought him out there to sweat him out and see if he gives any responses to hot or cold in weather they are nearing the body. Too many sources giving misinformation. From my understanding though he didnt help LE whatsoever.

 

[Izzylizzy]

Search for baby Emmanuel continues after parents arrested on suspicion of murder

The baby's father was spotted in a red jumpsuit with deputies in a field on Sunday. At the end of the day, the crews left, and the search continues.

abc7.com

As of four hours ago, he has not been found. Furthermore, this article says that while JH did go with the sheriff’s office yesterday when they searched, he did not aid in that search.

Also, though the search has continued today, the article further states that LE did not search in the same area as yesterday.

Looking at that picture again I just can’t imagine how they will find this tiny baby in all that desert and brush, except perhaps using cadaver dogs.

Or he may not be in the desert at all.

One of these two have to crack or I fear Emmanuel will never be found.

IMO

This makes absolutely no sense unless JH dangled a carrot then when they arrived at the scene played stupid?
imo

"he did not aid in that search".

 

[Izzylizzy]

To me, it sounds like he hasn’t admitted to anything, real or fake. It sounds like imo LE has some information (cell phone data? vehicle data? tip from someone who saw a car like theirs parked there?) that made them think Emmanuel could be there. Maybe they brought JH in hopes he’d give something away that would help them locate the body.

Maybe they also hoped they could use images of him there to scare RH into giving up the kidnapping story?

Any of the above could very well be.

Were the dogs brought there yesterday?

 

[agilbe]

This makes absolutely no sense unless JH dangled a carrot then when they arrived at the scene played stupid?
imo

"he did not aid in that search".

Did not aid in the search?? I guess they thought he needed some fresh air then or he dangled a carrot as you said. I personally think he's trying to make himself look less involved. Sorry guy that boat sailed.

 

[Nieves]

Because we’ve realized that there are those among us who will explicitly violate the rights of children and others unless laws are made to secure those rights and ensure that those who still choose to violate those rights are held to some form of justice. This is the basis of civility and democracy.

More offensive is that these institutions regularly fail all of us, especially the vulnerable and underprivileged in society, and somehow that is tolerated. The only way to move forward and make change is for those of us who have the ability to take action do so.

Hi! I completely agree with you. My writing was a rhetorical statement.

 

[agilbe]

Any of the above could very well be.

Were the dogs brought there yesterday?

Yes
Search for missing 7-month-old continues after parents arrested for murder: Sheriff.

 

[anyoldtime48]

Any of the above could very well be.

Were the dogs brought there yesterday?

Yes, searchers reportedly had at least a few cadaver dogs out there. from KCAL:

"It's unclear exactly why San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department deputies were drawn to the area. They confirmed that both cadaver dogs and detectives were at the location, along the westbound shoulder of SR-60 near Gilman Springs Road in the Badlands, a sprawling expanse of wilderness that includes canyons and mountains."

Emmanuel Haro still missing after San Bernardino County authorities conduct search in Moreno Valley

Detectives used cadaver dogs to search the sprawling wilderness off the side of the 60 Freeway in Moreno Valley. They had the boy's father, Jake Haro, with them as they searched.

www.cbsnews.com

Also from that same story, which to me "hints" he will not be in court Sept 2? "was slated, not is"

"He [Jake) previously pleaded guilty to willful child cruelty in 2023, and prior to his arrest, was slated to appear in Riverside County court in early September for firearm violation charges. "

 

[anyoldtime48]

Has anybody stumbled across what time tomorrow they will appear in court? I am coming up empty on that, unless it it "pay to play" on the court site. TIA.

 

[Nieves]

Not to be gruesome, but this time of year, I doubt he will be found.

But, I have always been surprised when bodies, well hidden, are found. One was Caylee Anthony, tossed deep into literally a swamp area off a road, and Ray Kronk decides to stop at that area, and identified something like remains. There was another body found, that was absolutely surprising, Quinton Simon, found in a landfill.

I believe, sometimes, there is some sort of compelling spirit that leads the person to find the body. Because it seems so inexplicable. Something beyond our realm.

Sometimes I think the same. In some spirit or whatever, that permit tu find the body. I hope this will happens in this horrible, cruelty and sad situation

 

[Frodosdojo]

I would like to watch the hearing tomorrow but I couldn't find their names on any of the court calendars. I did find this page where apparently you can watch court cases from that area. Riverside Hall of Justice Department 44

 

[mickey2942]

Latest in disappearance of Emmanuel Haro: Jake Haro joined police at search location

Jake and Rebecca Haro have been charged with murder in the disappearance of their 7-month-old son Emmanuel. Here's what we know.

www.usatoday.com

This article states their court date is tomorrow, which makes sense. Although, Jake Haro, being on probation, and having a weapons charge, means that they can just throw him back in jail or prison to complete his time on the former child abuse charge. He doesn't even need to be seen by a judge. AFAIK.

 

[agilbe]

Has anybody stumbled across what time tomorrow they will appear in court? I am coming up empty on that, unless it it "pay to play" on the court site. TIA.

Sadly I found something earlier. There is a possibility the charges won't be filed which might be why it's not on a court calendar. This was a report from Fox11 Los Angeles. Its towards the end

 

[anyoldtime48]

I would like to watch the hearing tomorrow but I couldn't find their names on any of the court calendars. I did find this page where apparently you can watch court cases from that area. Riverside Hall of Justice Department 44

I'd be shocked if they have live feed on it, but who knows. IMO mess of a court website, but I guess that goes with being so big.

 

[ttjo]

Sadly I found something earlier. There is a possibility the charges won't be filed which might be why it's not on a court calendar. This was a report from Fox11 Los Angeles. Its towards the end

How long can they hold people without charges before they have to release them?

 

[Izzylizzy]

OMG!
The irony is frightening.
imo

"She also spoke about her husband saying, "He's a good dad. He would never hurt a baby."

Emmanuel Haro's mother speaks from jail, insists 7-month-old baby was kidnapped

“I will not give up. I will not give up on my baby," Rebecca Haro said during an interview from jail.

www.foxla.com

 

[Izzylizzy]

How long can they hold people without charges before they have to release them?

Good question.

snip

How Long Can You Be Held Without Charges in California?​

'If you’re arrested in California, the police can only hold you for 48 hours before they must release you or file formal charges (Cal. Penal Code § 825). This “48-hour rule” means that within two days, you must either be charged with a crime or let go.

However, there are a few exceptions that may allow the police to hold you for more than 48 hours, such as if you’re arrested on a warrant from another county or if a judge grants a special extension.'

How Long Can Police Detain You for Questioning in California?

Learn about your rights during police questioning. Understand time limits and when to seek legal representation.

thenieveslawfirm.com

 

[Absoluterubbish]

How long can they hold people without charges before they have to release them?

When were they arrested? I am reading that its only 48 hours but I think its been longer than that.

 

[ttjo]

Good question.

snip

How Long Can You Be Held Without Charges in California?​

'If you’re arrested in California, the police can only hold you for 48 hours before they must release you or file formal charges (Cal. Penal Code § 825). This “48-hour rule” means that within two days, you must either be charged with a crime or let go.

However, there are a few exceptions that may allow the police to hold you for more than 48 hours, such as if you’re arrested on a warrant from another county or if a judge grants a special extension.'

How Long Can Police Detain You for Questioning in California?

Learn about your rights during police questioning. Understand time limits and when to seek legal representation.

thenieveslawfirm.com

I have a feeling we may need to buckle in. Lets hope they have enough evidence to officially charge. That cat and mouse game he was playing today, paticipating in a search with zero results, what was that? If that was part of a plea deal, doesnt a deal depend on you keeping up your end of the bargain & producing results.

 

[agilbe]

How long can they hold people without charges before they have to release them?

Not sure how they are managing this, everything I keep seeing says 48 hours. Apparently most states in 72 hours.
In California, someone held in custody must be charged or released within 48 hours of their arrest. Weekends, court holidays, and mandatory court closure days do not count against the 48 hours.
Can I Be Jailed Without Being Charged?

 

[sunspun]

Sounds like LE has a general idea of where the baby's body might be, but they needed help finding the specific location from the person who left it there, and they apparently have reason to believe that person is probably JH. I can think of a few ways they could have been led to this area, but any explanation would have to also account for two puzzling things we've learned: the fact that RH continues to insist her abduction tale is true, and the fact that JH went with them to the location despite not assisting them in the search.

One possibility: maybe JH did leave the body somewhere around there, but he had help from another person. And maybe that person has told LE where to go without being too specific. So they went to that area but thought if they brought JH there, he would lead them to the specific location. This person could have turned themself in and shared that info with LE, or they could even have left the tip anonymously (although I think they'd be able to figure out their identity eventually anyway.) In this scenario, RH would be totally unaware of any of this happening, which is why she sticks to the story, just like she and JH previously agreed to do. And it would explain why JH was there but not helping, because he also would be sticking to the story, again like they promised each other they'd do.

If it turns out there is no third party who helped and who has come forward with information, then it's possible LE has gotten info from the Haros' phones or vehicles that showed them to be in this area at an odd time, say, late at night the night before the day of the supposed abduction, or some other incriminating or suspicious data they could have gotten from their devices/vehicles/etc. So they bring him out to the general area, hoping he'll confess or at least give them a clue where to look, but even though JH knows they know something, he's stubbornly refusing to help, hoping that playing dumb will make them think he's innocent. (Stupid strategy, but desperate times... ) In this scenario, RH would still stick to their story, because LE have left her in the dark so far, and haven't let her know they have incriminating electronic/telematic info on them.

Both of these possibilities would make sense with what we know so far. But who knows, they may have found an actual hand drawn map in their house that one of them drew of the burial (or dump) location for some stupid reason. Or maybe RH or JH confided in someone they met once they were put in jail. Or maybe one of them was too dumb to know their phone calls in jail are monitored and said something on the phone to someone. Probably we could come up with many more possible explanations. What seems to me must be true, is that someway somehow LE has reason to believe they know the correct general location of where to find his body, or where his body was left, but they don't have enough specifics to have found it on their own yet, or because of animals or whatever, the body is no longer where it was left.