CA CA - Emmanuel Haro, 7-months, reported kidnapped 7:30pm from Big 5 parking lot, Yucaipa Blvd, Yucaipa, 14 Aug 2025 *Arrest* #3

[Tiger Lily]

Yes, I posted it earlier, post 104.

Here it is again for anyone who hasn’t seen it—-this was much earlier from ABC. They state that JH was there alongside LE, but that LE says he DID NOT AID in the search.

Whatever that implies, I can’t be sure, but we all have our theories.

Search for baby Emmanuel continues after parents arrested on suspicion of murder

The baby's father was spotted in a red jumpsuit with deputies in a field on Sunday. At the end of the day, the crews left, and the search continues.

abc7.com

This sentence from the article seems clear:

The department noted that Jake was at the scene with investigators, but was not helping in the search.

 

[Tiger Lily]

Can it be so simple as JH took them to the area and then did not physically aid in the search?
I've never heard of a case where the PD took the risk & cost of taking someone out of incarceration to a location in hopes they will provide info. anyone else? It's normally after the prisoner provided specific info. on where a body was located. IMO way too much risk to take someone out of incarceration to get them there to talk... AMO!!

Also in my opinion RH could be just as abusive or more abusive in different ways then JH. I think it is possible they are equally abusive, so I am giving her no slack. Look at the Turpin's & so many other cases, where two extremally abusive parents murdered or hurt their children. It's possible RH did not care about JH's prior child abuse conviction, because she was ok with it because she also abused her children, not all child abuse gets reported and prosecuted, etc. All My Opinion

 

[Ghostwheel]

RSBM

This sentence from the article seems clear:

The department noted that Jake was at the scene with investigators, but was not helping in the search.

How is this clear? It does not imply that he admitted anything at all, just that they dragged his sorry self out there for whatever LE reasons.

ETA: There are many reasons, GPS on phone or truck, someone that knows his truck spotted it on the side of the road, cameras that caught his truck to a certain point, that LE Might drag him out there. It doesn't mean he admitted anything at all. (it could, but doesn't have to be)

 

[Arkay]

How is this clear? It does not imply that he admitted anything at all, just that they dragged his sorry self out there for whatever LE reasons.

ETA: There are many reasons, GPS on phone or truck, someone that knows his truck spotted it on the side of the road, cameras that caught his truck to a certain point, that LE Might drag him out there. It doesn't mean he admitted anything at all. (it could, but doesn't have to be)

I believe you are mixing up my post with someone else’s.

I’ve never said at any time that JH admitted to anything.

I simply posted from MSM that the sheriff’s department made a statement after the day’s search, simply stating that JH was with them at the search, but did not help them search.

That was what I said was clear—-JH was merely present but apparently did not offer any clues on finding Emmanuel, according to the article.

 

[Freddysfling]

As someone who has worked with children with disabilities and who aren’t neurotypical, I am certain poor baby Emmanuel was on the severe end of the spectrum as it were.
I am fairly sure he wasn’t born like this, but acquired his developmental delays through abuse or severe neglect ( SBS would be most likely ) his pics to me show a child who is unresponsive to his environment and others and who very sadly looks in pain.
I can imagine his parents have dehumanised him, he’s not the “perfect son” that both parents wanted which to them makes him less than. They depersonalised him -He was an object to them. They probably knew he would require specialist care and his needs would become much more apparent as he got older and would be expected to walk, talk and hit other milestones which would lead to questions, suspicions and potential problems added to this the extreme financial implications of caring for a baby with multiple and specific needs.
This is only my opinion but through my career and experience this is very sadly what I see.
It’s absolutely heartbreaking, cruel and sadistic. That poor little guy never stood a chance!

 

[Hexe]

As someone who has worked with children with disabilities and who aren’t neurotypical, I am certain poor baby Emmanuel was on the severe end of the spectrum as it were.
I am fairly sure he wasn’t born like this, but acquired his developmental delays through abuse or severe neglect

You do not become autistic. You are born this way. I am pretty sure Emmanuel had developmental delays and brain damage but if he was on the spectrum it was not from neglect and abuse he was a victim of.

 

[Inthedetails]

Can it be so simple as JH took them to the area and then did not physically aid in the search?
I've never heard of a case where the PD took the risk & cost of taking someone out of incarceration to a location in hopes they will provide info. anyone else? It's normally after the prisoner provided specific info. on where a body was located. IMO way too much risk to take someone out of incarceration to get them there to talk... AMO!!

Also in my opinion RH could be just as abusive or more abusive in different ways then JH. I think it is possible they are equally abusive, so I am giving her no slack. Look at the Turpin's & so many other cases, where two extremally abusive parents murdered or hurt their children. It's possible RH did not care about JH's prior child abuse conviction, because she was ok with it because she also abused her children, not all child abuse gets reported and prosecuted, etc. All My Opinion

I am now leaning toward just that - JH was THERE but not physically walking the ground looking. And since the body was not found, his presence was, in actuality, not an assist. imo

Still, I have the hunch JH lied and sent searchers on a goose chase. Not a fact, just a hunch.

LE should not trust his word....and RH shouldn't either. There is absolutely nothing honorable in a grown man who beats a 10-week old, and I am not expecting a confession or help finding the body. But, I'll be happy to be wrong.

jmopinion

 

[Inthedetails]

I think they are trying to decide what county they will be charged in. Also pretty sure they have to have eough evidence to charge them by tomorrow. I have read everything I can find and thats what I have pieced together. JMO.

I agree that might be what's happening - they are determining the jurisdiction.

But, even if they can't formally charge with murder at this point, I think they will charge them with something to keep them behind bars. Fingers crossed for murder charges, though.


jmopinion

 

[Poedelini]

I agree that might be what's happening - they are determining the jurisdiction.

But, even if they can't formally charge with murder at this point, I think they will charge them with something to keep them behind bars. Fingers crossed for murder charges, though.


jmopinion

Yes indeed fingers crossed. My heart took a leap there. I would be horrified if they walked free today.

Jmo

 

[Inthedetails]

Yes indeed fingers crossed. My heart took a leap there. I would be horrified if they walked free today.

Jmo

I predict this case is going to get even more tangled as we go on.

jmopinion

 

[Unalienable Rights]

Brian Entin

 

[Freddysfling]

You do not become autistic. You are born this way. I am pretty sure Emmanuel had developmental delays and brain damage but if he was on the spectrum it was not from neglect and abuse he was a victim of.

Yeah I didn’t mean spectrum in this context. Sorry if it’s crudely worded.

I mean the spectrum of learning difficulties not autism.
As you are correct that you are born with autism and do not develop it from
Abuse or neglect.

This is the definition I mean

“used to classify something in terms of its position on a scale between two extreme points”

The word spectrum isn’t exclusively associated with autism but I can see how my comment could have been confusing.

 

[Nieves]

The gestures of abused children are surely understood by the specialists who work with these cases. It's difficult and unprofessional for us to give an opinion based on just the few photos of little Emmanuel.

 

[Gigiky]

Brian Entin

This was very informative. But I wasn't clear if she is saying that her office is in charge of over seeing these cases or she use to be in that office. I will have to rewatch. But it really sounds like somebodys dropped the ball on holding this man (JH) accountable. The good thing is he still has a pending count date for parole vailation for this case. So it's not like some double jeopardy can apply. Maybe there is a chance they can right this miscarriage of justice.JMO

 

[tlcya]

Emmanuel Haro's parents due in court

 

[tlcya]

In addition to Emmanuel, the couple also has a 2-year-old daughter, and a 16-year-old, who is a stepchild to Jake, according to the Press Enterprise, a newspaper with the Southern California News Group.
Emmanuel Haro's mother speaks from jail, insists 7-month-old baby was kidnapped


whaaaa? So RH has a 16 year old who is Jake's stepchild? Or is the 16 year old a stepchild from a previous relationship of Jake's? I am confuzzled , first I've heard of this child. Did they live in the home shared by the couple? If there is a teen in that household they should be very afraid that the bus is headed towards them. Jake's MO is to blame others for injuries he's inflicted on infants. JS

 

[Tortoise]

I'm not qualified to say whether Emmanuel was brain damaged since he was born, or born with a disability, but all I can say is I had the distinct impression from his photos that he was blind, not engaged with his surroundings and he seems to be in his own world. I've never seen such a sad and despondent looking baby, it's quite an adult look on his face. IMO

 

[Hexe]

whaaaa? So RH has a 16 year old who is Jake's stepchild? Or is the 16 year old a stepchild from a previous relationship of Jake's?

"Stepchild to Jake" means Jake's stepchild and Rebecca's bio child.

 

[steff13]

RH keeps saying she wants to be out looking for her baby. I don't recall seeing her looking for her baby when she was out...

 

[tlcya]

"Stepchild to Jake" means Jake's stepchild and Rebecca's bio child.

that is the most likely explanation, however, since Jake has had three wives that we know if, it is also possible that the child is the bio child of neither. JMO

So many players in this case I am craving a flow chart to keep track

ETA, if RH's bio child, and if a member of their household, why no mention of that 16 year old being placed into CPS custody along with RH's two year old?